ok, how about this, 2 G80 10T's for a 29/40-120. OR 3 G80-10T's AND a pack of D12-5s for a 29/40-120 and 24/40. all the G80's come with copperheads. however many you want. i have 5 G80's and i am NOT going to use them, especially since they're 10 second delays. i'd rather spread the wealth and get a casing in return. something other than the G80. its a sick motor. it sent my onyx skyward fast. OFFER ME SOMETHING!!!