### Help Support The Rocketry Forum:

#### sandman

##### Well-Known Member
OK...I need feedback on this one!

I am in the parts procurment stage of this one and I need help deciding what "Skill Level" you guys would be interested in.

I am making a 4" in diameter (BT-101) Little Joe II high skill level kit! I need to know how "high" a skill level you guys want.

The model will be 4" in diameter and 26" tall this will be BIG!

It will be powered by a central 24mm motor. A D12-3 will fly it BEAUTIFULLY!

The Centering rings also have cut out so you can fly it with a central 24mm (up to an "E" size) AND 6 18mm motors.

A 7 motor cluster for all you "Fire and Smoke" crazys!

The nose cone/capsule will be built up similar but stronger to the old Estes Apollo Capsule but with a hardwood (basswood) tip and maple escape motor.

How much detail do you guys really want!

I am currently "working" on the vacuform parts for the fin farings and corrugated wrap. This will be the "hard" part!

This is gonna be a big impressive model!

The picture shows the prototype looking kinda rough...She's flown 30 or 40 times on a single D12-3!

See page 5 of the November/December "Sport Rocketry" magazine for a flight picture!

sandman

#### sandman

##### Well-Known Member
Here is a centering ring...please...no drooling on the keyboard!

sandman

#### Rocketmaniac

##### Well-Known Member
Originally posted by sandman
no drooling on the keyboard!
Too late....... keyboard already wet....... I have been working on my cluster rocket (estes MK-109 upscale) all morning, so I have clusters on my mind........

What price are you asking for this kit?

#### sandman

##### Well-Known Member
I'm not sure on the price.

I want to keep the price as low as I can but it all depends on the level of detail you guys demand.

#### Zippy

##### Well-Known Member
I paid $69 (plus shipping) for an Estes Saturn V. I'm sure I will like your kit better than the Estes so ballpark$70 works for me. Cast fairings would be great ! I hate vacume form except for things like corrugation.

My Saturn V

#### sandman

##### Well-Known Member
Zippy, nice saturn V!

Time line...well that depends on a lot of things.

How soon I can turn all the wooden parts.

How soon the tubes, and corrugation arrives.

How long it take me to make the plansets...that will be rather elaborate!

I have to have some decals...not many.

I wouldexpect by late spring...May at the latest.

I am real pleased with the reaction to this so far.

But please...don't send me money yet!

sandman

#### Zippy

##### Well-Known Member
Thanks Sandman. Your timeline works good for me since I'll have to budget it in somewhere. I'll probably scrap the 29mm idea and go with it the way you send it, although there's bound to be a composite going in the central mmt

##### Well-Known Member
I would get one at that price. If you are only making 15, it might be kinda cool if you signed and numbered the instructions or something. I think that would put the icing right on the cake!

#### Silverleaf

##### Well-Known Member
Well I tend to overlook the Yard Sale forum, and I'm glad I checked it today.

Sandman, your rocket looks fantastic. Period !

You can count me in for one of these kits. Price wise, I'll have to save for a few months, but for a quality Little Joe kit the price was what I expected - anywhere from 40 to 65 bucks.

Hmm..NAR membership or Little Joe ?..Considering a Little Joe 2 just went for 42 bucks on Ebay, I'll take the "Big" Little Joe. 8)

Thank you for posting this thread Sandman, really appreciate it.

Cheers,

##### Well-Known Member
Hmmmm, 75 bucks is kinda what I expected. Yup, count me in too! I think this is a wonderful project!

#### Frodo2801

##### Well-Known Member
Are you going to take preorders for this. That might give you an idea on demand. Great looking kit!

#### sandman

##### Well-Known Member
I will take pre-orders but not for a few month yet.

Please, let me get my s*** together on this first.

sandman

#### jetra2

##### Well-Known Member
That's a pretty sweet looking rocket Sandman! You do some awesome work! I don't know right yet if I'll be able to afford buying this rocket - but I might be able to. So, if I can afford it when they come out, I will buy one!

Thanks man....now I hafta go buy a new keyboard! :kill: J/K!

Jason

#### Martin Vrstal

##### Well-Known Member
Sandman...If and when you get your issue of Sport Rocketry magazine, look at the picture on the back cover.....could it be...well yes ..I think it's your baby.

#### eugenefl

##### Well-Known Member
TRF Supporter
Originally posted by Martin Vrstal
Sandman...If and when you get your issue of Sport Rocketry magazine, look at the picture on the back cover.....could it be...well yes ..I think it's your baby.
LOL...we're amidst a *true* celebrity! Isn't it nice to have these folks around TRF?

#### sandman

##### Well-Known Member
Hey look!!! a free advertisement on the back cover of Sport Rocketry for the new kit!

That's what it looks like on a D12-3!