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- Nov 10, 2018
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- Webster, Wisconsin
You know, this would be a cool rocket build. I need to find as many photos & specs as possible.
According to the videos, people have threatened to do that, but are warned that it is, of course, illegal to do so.couldn't you just shoot one down with a goose gun and then wait to see who comes pick up the pieces?
According to the videos, people have threatened to do that, but are warned that it is, of course, illegal to do so.
Years ago I read about some guy in the US successfully shooting down a hobbyist drone over his property. I don't recall if he was prosecuted. Anyway, this current mystery sounds like some commercial or commercial/military operation using very expensive drones.heh even with the legality question, it's pretty surprising one hasn't been downed already. If this happened when I was a teen growing up out in the sticks they wouldn't have stood a chance between me and my friends.
On other forums, i've heard it could be oil/gas mapping drones but there's no way an energy company would be stupid enough to this without talking to the FAA first. If it is some commercial operation they've sealed their own fate. Once the mystery is solved, the FAA will unchain their attack lawyers.Just as we had the FAA-incited 2015 Christmas drone apocalypse hysteria eagerly propagated by a clueless media dying for sensationalist news and that DJI drone crashing onto the White House lawn in the middle of the night flown by an employee of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency just prior to the FAA's RC pilot registration ruling, we have these fleets of large mystery drones flying over remote areas of CO and NE at low altitudes without publicly readable transponders concurrent with an even more significant and far more restrictive hobbyist drone ruling by the FAA requiring... wait for it... transponders on any hobbyist RC aircraft weighing more than 250 grams flying at the same altitudes as the mystery drones.
There's nothing illegal about what is being done. NOTAMs aren't required for flying at those low altitudes and it could very well be that they are not flying any closer than 5 miles to any helipad or airport, also according to the rules.On other forums, i've heard it could be oil/gas mapping drones but there's no way an energy company would be stupid enough to this without talking to the FAA first. If it is some commercial operation they've sealed their own fate. Once the mystery is solved, the FAA will unchain their attack lawyers.
There's nothing illegal about what is being done. NOTAMs aren't required for flying at those low altitudes and it could very well be that they are not flying any closer than 5 miles to any helipad or airport, also according to the rules.
THAT is why I think this is possibly being done not just for commercial or commercial/military/DHS purposes, but to grease the public opinion for the pending FAA requirement that hobbyist RC aircraft weighing over 250 grams carry transponders. The timing is too convenient. This could also be an official exercise to measure response.
You need a Part 107 cert to fly commercially, but if you're flying where they're flying, at the altitudes they're flying, and not within 5 miles of an airport or helipad, you do not have to contact anyone to do that. A generic FAA night-fly-whenever-you-want waiver might be possible, but I don't know, that would not lead anyone to this specific event. I doubt the military or other fed government agencies are required to notify anyone about anything, especially for a classified exercise or operation, and especially if they are following all of the uncontrolled airspace rules I just mentioned."If it is (or any other commercial surveying venture), and we take the FAA's statements at face value, then they're going to be in a world of hurt. AFAICT, commercial operation in the US (which absolutely covers surveying) requires a Part 107 certification, and if you are flying under Part 107 at night then you also require an FAA waiver. Since the FAA's statement implies they have no knowledge then they'll have a Federal agency on their ass if/when they get caught.
All of the witnesses, including a drone professional, and the many videos... but a "Colorado homeland security plane" orbits over a small area and "couldn’t find reported mystery drones" and then a Colorado "sheriff's office rescinds calls to look for mystery drone 'command vehicle."I think it is embarrassing that we don’t have a definitive answer on who, what, and why yet. If it’s not a gov’t operation then we should know. What if the operators were bad actors? Terrorists mapping the area, dropping poisons or drugs, or something more sinister. If we can’t find something that’s not trying to hide, how could we find something actively trying to evade detection and capture?
In Curly Howard's voice, "Oh! look!":
CES 2020: Citing "mystery drones," US Transportation Secretary advocates new rules
The mysterious drones flying over Colorado and Nebraska offer a "timely illustration" of why drones should be equipped with remote IDs, the administration official said.
As part of its efforts to safely integrate drones into US air space, the Federal Aviation Administration last month proposed a new rule that would require Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) to be identifiable remotely. To understand why such a rule is needed, one only has to look to the sky in Colorado and Nebraska, where "mystery drones" have been flying in formation at night, US Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao said Wednesday.
The "mystery drones," she said at CES 2020, are "certainly a timely illustration of why remote IDs are needed."
i doubt it's deliberate but it's certainly sounds like it's being used that way.If this is a deliberate effort to promote panic or uncomfortableness in citizens to justify more regulation it is disgusting that our government should be so obvious about it and that citizens would fall for it.
In the 80s we (the US media and gov’t) derided the USSR for these type of underhanded propaganda.
It should go without saying that such a deception is clearly against our Constitution. Our government may withhold information from us, but they’re not supposed to lie.
No, it's intentional, but it's not even necessarily being done with the knowledge of the FAA. Someone else is simply helping them with their cause - I'd guess a commercial/military or commercial/DHS scheduled exercise. But the timing is just too damned convenient wouldn't you say?i doubt it's deliberate but it's certainly sounds like it's being used that way.
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