Quantcast

3D Printing 3D printing large parts

The Rocketry Forum

Help Support The Rocketry Forum:

cwbullet

Obsessed with Rocketry
Staff member
Administrator
TRF Lifetime Supporter
Global Mod
Joined
Jan 24, 2009
Messages
25,486
Reaction score
3,433
Location
Glennville, GA
Great video. Break up a large print is one thing I need to get good at.
 

mpitfield

Moderator
Staff member
TRF Lifetime Supporter
Global Mod
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Messages
4,821
Reaction score
429
Location
Toronto, Ontario
John great video, what CAD program do use? BTW I just received the new Nozzle X for my MK3. I typically print at .2 and sometimes .15, but I have never really observed that .15 was 25% better in resolution. That is until now. I ordered both the .4 and .35 Nozzle X and I installed the .35. With that I just printed something at .15 and man is it clean. The resolution difference now is night and day. I would say out of all the modifications I have done this is the most obvious improvement.
 

cwbullet

Obsessed with Rocketry
Staff member
Administrator
TRF Lifetime Supporter
Global Mod
Joined
Jan 24, 2009
Messages
25,486
Reaction score
3,433
Location
Glennville, GA
I will have to figure out how to gussets and rabbits in tinkered.
 

manixFan

Not a rocket scientist
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
1,880
Reaction score
854
Location
TX
I would like to see the finished booster nose cones. Those are the kind of parts that seem ideal for a 3D printer. I know how to cut things apart in OpenSCAD (well, sorta) but I have no idea how to in Solid Edge. Will be interesting to see if I can figure it out.

Thanks for the tips,


Tony
 

JohnCoker

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
1,835
Reaction score
492
John great video, what CAD program do use?
I've been using Rhino, but I will eventually switch to Fusion 360 (which seems to be more popular).

BTW I just received the new Nozzle X for my MK3. I typically print at .2 and sometimes .15, but I have never really observed that .15 was 25% better in resolution. That is until now. I ordered both the .4 and .35 Nozzle X and I installed the .35. With that I just printed something at .15 and man is it clean. The resolution difference now is night and day. I would say out of all the modifications I have done this is the most obvious improvement.
I am still using the 0.4mm nozzle that came with it. For detail parts, a finer resolution would definitely be nice, but for these largish parts, I'm fine with the coarseness of the default nozzle.
I will eventually try smaller nozzles to see how that works, but these things take so long to print that I'll wait until it really matters.
 
Last edited:

JohnCoker

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
1,835
Reaction score
492
I will have to figure out how to gussets and rabbits in tinkered.
You don't need any special features. For a rabbet, draw a tube that overlaps the end of the part and the "subtract" it from the part. For a gusset, draw another part that forms the gusset (disks or triangular solids). You don't even need to join them; just export them in the same STL file and the slicer will treat it all as the same part.

 

JohnCoker

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
1,835
Reaction score
492
I would like to see the finished booster nose cones. Those are the kind of parts that seem ideal for a 3D printer.
So do I! I'm still refining the parts (I eventually need four). Right now, I'm trying printing the mid section as a single piece since only the tip really needs to be split to accommodate the aluminum bracket.

I know how to cut things apart in OpenSCAD (well, sorta) but I have no idea how to in Solid Edge. Will be interesting to see if I can figure it out.
I'm not sure if it helps, but this is how I've done in Rhino:
  • draw whole part in however many pieces you need
  • draw a plane through the center
  • select the part pieces
  • use Boolean Split, splitting with the plane
  • select each piece of the part and Cap Planar Holes
 

Mendal

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2016
Messages
235
Reaction score
15
Nice work John I printed a nose cone for a 5.5” inch Nike smoke over a year ago that I need to get back to and finish. It was printed in 6 sections.

IMG_1047.jpg


IMG_1048.jpg
 

kalsow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
71
Reaction score
44
Being a long-time hacker and a 3-D printing noob, I had to give it a try. My lathe skills are at best moderate. I always dreamed of printing the plugs for my larger nose cone molds. So here it is. Yet another nose cone designer. Rename the attached .txt file as a .scad file and open it in OpenSCAD with the customizer enabled. You'll have a little UI that lets you design and tweak any of the 10 basic styles described on the wikipedia "Nose Cone Design" page. The program also lets you specify the size of your maximum print volume. If your nose cone is too big, it'll slice and dice it to fit. The program adds alignment tabs and gussets as necessary when large cones are chopped. There are also a couple parameters to control the looseness of the fit for the alignment tabs. I've only printed a couple cones so far, but it seems like it's working, well.

Enjoy!

upload_2019-3-19_10-48-32.png


upload_2019-3-19_10-48-56.png


upload_2019-3-19_10-49-24.jpeg



upload_2019-3-19_10-49-50.jpeg
 

Attachments

manixFan

Not a rocket scientist
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
1,880
Reaction score
854
Location
TX
Being a long-time hacker and a 3-D printing noob, I had to give it a try. My lathe skills are at best moderate. I always dreamed of printing the plugs for my larger nose cone molds. So here it is. Yet another nose cone designer. ....<snip>]
Wow, very cool. I downloaded it and tried it out. It works well in inches. When I tried the metric option though the slider limits prevented me from entering any practical numbers. Looking over the code I see the slider values are comments after the variable definition. Seems like you'd almost need two files, one with the values for metric and the other for imperial.

Otherwise, a very useful file, already learned quite a bit by looking over the code. Thanks for posting.


Tony
 

kalsow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
71
Reaction score
44
Wow, very cool. I downloaded it and tried it out. It works well in inches. When I tried the metric option though the slider limits prevented me from entering any practical numbers. Looking over the code I see the slider values are comments after the variable definition. Seems like you'd almost need two files, one with the values for metric and the other for imperial.

Otherwise, a very useful file, already learned quite a bit by looking over the code. Thanks for posting.

Tony
Thanks! I thought I had picked range values that covered both the mm and inches options. Which ones were most offensive? You're probably right that there should just be two files. What I really wanted was to be able to compute the range endpoints based on the units choice.
 

kalsow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
71
Reaction score
44
Thanks! I thought I had picked range values that covered both the mm and inches options. Which ones were most offensive? You're probably right that there should just be two files. What I really wanted was to be able to compute the range endpoints based on the units choice.
Doh! I see now. I must have had 2.54 mm/inch in my head when I entered some of those ranges.
 

Attachments

Rainmaker

Well-Known Member
TRF Supporter
Joined
Jan 4, 2018
Messages
120
Reaction score
30
Location
Austin, Texas
Being a long-time hacker and a 3-D printing noob, I had to give it a try. My lathe skills are at best moderate. I always dreamed of printing the plugs for my larger nose cone molds. So here it is. Yet another nose cone designer. Rename the attached .txt file as a .scad file and open it in OpenSCAD with the customizer enabled. You'll have a little UI that lets you design and tweak any of the 10 basic styles described on the wikipedia "Nose Cone Design" page. The program also lets you specify the size of your maximum print volume. If your nose cone is too big, it'll slice and dice it to fit. The program adds alignment tabs and gussets as necessary when large cones are chopped. There are also a couple parameters to control the looseness of the fit for the alignment tabs. I've only printed a couple cones so far, but it seems like it's working, well.

Enjoy!
I can't figure out how to export the individual pieces as STL files for slicing. When I've created objects in OpenSCAD before I can render individual pieces, but I can't figure out how to do that here. I'm using Cura for slicing and I can't see a way in that to break the STL into pieces.

Is there an intermediate step I need to use in this case?
 

kalsow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
71
Reaction score
44
I can't figure out how to export the individual pieces as STL files for slicing. When I've created objects in OpenSCAD before I can render individual pieces, but I can't figure out how to do that here. I'm using Cura for slicing and I can't see a way in that to break the STL into pieces.

Is there an intermediate step I need to use in this case?
I don't know about Cura. I export a single STL from OpenSCAD and use Slic3r PE (Prusa Edition) for slicing. It has an Object/Split menu option that finds each of the separate pieces and drops them on the X-Y plane. From there you can delete, replicate, and arrange as you like.
 

Rainmaker

Well-Known Member
TRF Supporter
Joined
Jan 4, 2018
Messages
120
Reaction score
30
Location
Austin, Texas
I don't know about Cura. I export a single STL from OpenSCAD and use Slic3r PE (Prusa Edition) for slicing. It has an Object/Split menu option that finds each of the separate pieces and drops them on the X-Y plane. From there you can delete, replicate, and arrange as you like.
Thanks you gave me the phrase to search for and I found out that Cura no longer does that, but that there are other applications that do such as Meshmixer.
 

kalsow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
71
Reaction score
44
Here's an update to NoseConeDesigner.scad that fixes a bug that occasionally prevents rendering of the nose cone when the shoulder base cap is used.
 

Attachments

cwbullet

Obsessed with Rocketry
Staff member
Administrator
TRF Lifetime Supporter
Global Mod
Joined
Jan 24, 2009
Messages
25,486
Reaction score
3,433
Location
Glennville, GA
I am going to have to try this.
 
Top