24mm Outlander Question

[astrowolf67]

I'm in the middle of building my Outlander, which will have a 24mm motor mount, instead of the stock 18mm. For those who have made this conversion, how much nose weight was needed? I plan to fly it on D12's, and E9's.

 

[Elapid]

build it all up, load up the biggest motor you want to fly in it, then add nose weight until the CG is in the stock location.

good luck!

 

[lalligood]

That Outlander is so doggone heavy, the last thing it needs is more weight anywhere! Everyone I've seen has been lucky to make it off the pad under power from a C6-x... I wouldn't think that you'd need to worry about adding any weight till you got into composite Fs (even then I bet it's unlikely!)

Just my $0.02.

 

[astrowolf67]

Lance, that's kind of what I was thinking. It's short and stubby enough that the margin should be okay. I just can't believe Estes designed this thing with an 18mm mount. I love low and slow flyers, but 100-150 feet is too low.

 

[ggoldy]

David, It may not need it, but, for good measure, I crimped 2, 1/16 oz split shots to the shock cord (also upgraded) at the nose cone. 2, because that's all I had left after fishing the weekend before.

Launch video here:
https://sears572.com/albums/LaunchVideos8May2004/Outlander.wmv

Gary

 

[astrowolf67]

My Outlander flew yesterday at the Manchester, TN launch, on an E9-4. No nose weight was added, and it boosted perfect, showing no signs of instability at all. Here's a couple of pics.
First, setting on the pad.

 

[astrowolf67]

And second, at liftoff.

It flew to about 400 feet, recovered about 100 feet down range on a Recovery Technologies 20 inch chute with spill hole, and nailed the four legged landing perfect.

 

[Johnnie]

That was a very nice flight. That one may also want the E18 or F24 composite motor...hhmmm, maybe I should build mine, I have a 24mm mount that I'm not using from my Executioner.

 

[Karl]

I've just orderd my very first Outlander , im not sure wether to convert it to 24mm or keep it stock. Could someone tell me step by step what I would need to do to convert it to 24mm , and what I would need please?

 

[shreadvector]

Why not just build it stock and use the new Quest D20 motor in it?

D20 = 18 x 70 mm AP motor per reports from NARAM on r.m.r.

Originally posted by Karl
I've just orderd my very first Outlander , im not sure wether to convert it to 24mm or keep it stock. Could someone tell me step by step what I would need to do to convert it to 24mm , and what I would need please?

 

[shreadvector]

Originally posted by shreadvector
It would help if I used the correct letter, DUH.

D20

D

D20

not F.......

Oh look, I can edit messages when I find errors. How cool. I think I've got the original message fixed now. ......

 

[Karl]

cool , I didn't know quest have new motors out . And you say they are AP? Sweet! Now I realy need my exolocives licence!!

 

[BobH48]

Why not just build it stock and use the new Quest D20 motor in it?

D20 = 18 x 70 mm AP motor per reports from NARAM on r.m.r.

I'm halfway done with mine... That means I converted it to a 24mm for nothing

 

[Fore Check]

This info on the Quest D20 makes me want to clone an Astron Streak again.......

 

[rbeckey]

The Quest motors sound nice. No offense to anyone, but considering the difficulties most of us have been having procuring our AP motor of choice, I am not counting on a steady or generous supply of the new motors any time soon. I realize the AT is doing a yeoman's job in recovering from a catastrophe, but the supply isn't exactly stable yet. Perhaps there is another supplier?