Do you believe in the multiverse?

Just curious if anyone here believes the multiverse theory. The theory in which multiple universes exist in similar fashion that there are Galaxies in our Universe.

I think it is possible.

I wonder what would happen if they did exist and two Universes merged into one.

Dork_Vader said:

Just curious if anyone here believes the multiverse theory. The theory in which multiple universes exist in similar fashion that there are Galaxies in our Universe.

I think it is possible.

I wonder what would happen if they did exist and two Universes merged into one.

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How dare you ask a question that does not involve food or paint!:rofl:

Really, I enjoyed watching Sliders and loved the concept. I believe.

Isn't that what Korben and Leeloo used to get to Phlosten Paradise


Oh wait, that's a Multi-pass.....never mind.

Yes. Every since 1980 when I read Deities and Demigods. Additional information was made available in Manual of the Planes.


I love when an idea presented in a role playing game works it's way into mainstream theoretical physics.
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Dork_Vader said:

Just curious if anyone here believes the multiverse theory. The theory in which multiple universes exist in similar fashion that there are Galaxies in our Universe.

I think it is possible.

I wonder what would happen if they did exist and two Universes merged into one.

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I am on the fence on this..It is plausible, and I find incredibly interesting..Infinite universes with infinitely different properties from ours, with ours -of course- being able to sustain and promote intelligent life forms. I have read an interesting book on the subject called 'In Search of The Multiverse' by John Gribben. Interesting read available at Amazon..I have also read 'Book of The Universes' which is a little more technical and have one yet to read called 'Visions of the Multiverse' by Manly..

There is a downside to the idea of a multiverse.

A police detective, pondering a rash of unexplained suicides and murder-suicides occurring since the discovery of travel to parallel universes, begins to realize that if all possible choices that might be made are actually made in parallel universes, people will see their freedom of choice as meaningless. The choice not to commit suicide, or not to commit a crime, seems meaningless if one knows that in some other universe, the choice went the other way. They therefore kill themselves or commit the crime, because they abandon the sense of choice

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"All The Myriad Ways" by Larry Niven.

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I style myself as a Possibilian. Scientifically there are some tantalizing reasons to think there are multiple/many/infinite universes, but so far I haven't found a compelling rationale to form a belief on the subject.

I would like to see the other side of the black hole. I think it would be a site to behold.

I invented it. If you you don't believe me, just ask me.

So there's another universe identical to this one except that I had two cookies after lunch instead of one?

The DC comic mulitverse collapse upon itself during the crossover series "Crisis on Infinite Earths" during the 1980's. So, no, only one earth now exists...

Absolutely, I'd like to think that there is another version of me out there who is a good looking millionaire playboy with a full rich head of hair.

Yes, and I am really intrigued by I think it's Brian Greene's bubble model of multiple universes.

Sully said:

So there's another universe identical to this one except that I had two cookies after lunch instead of one?

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Not exactly. Not only in that universe did you have two cookies, but now you have more food in your gut, your waste might be bigger tomorrow, the next person who came to the cookie jar (bag, whatever) saw fewer cookies and maybe made a different decision on what to eat...

Like ripples in a pond, the changes persist from the point of the different decision. :wink:

Brian Green exactly. There is a series of 4 programs based on his book on PBS online. Very good stuff. And yes, I certainly think it's plausable.

I think this paraphrase quote sums it up:

"The universe is not only stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think."

Attributed (in variations) to

• Werner Heisenberg
• J.S. Haldane
• Arthur Stanley Eddington

In order to move to the another reality, you would need a ship to transport in such as the TARDIS. The Earth is traveling through time and space. You need to know where it was to travel back in time or know where it will be to travel forward in time. Simply put.:grin:

I like the multiverse(s) from Robert Heinlein in his books Glory Road and Number of the Beast.

Oscar and Deety !

Kenny

H_Rocket said:

Isn't that what Korben and Leeloo used to get to Phlosten Paradise

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Love that movie! One of my many guilty pleasures

I believe there are an infinite number of interpretations of the same object. I believe there are an infinite number of objects that cannot be explained. I believe I will have another cookie.

Sully said:

So there's another universe identical to this one except that I had two cookies after lunch instead of one?

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Yes and one where you had a salad and no cookies.

"the final frontier, is made in a hollywood basement" Pearl Jam. It is mental californication

JPVegh said:

Absolutely, I'd like to think that there is another version of me out there who is a good looking millionaire playboy with a full rich head of hair.

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I think the other me is dragging this me down. :eyepop:

Pantherjon said:

I am on the fence on this..It is plausible, and I find incredibly interesting..Infinite universes with infinitely different properties from ours, with ours -of course- being able to sustain and promote intelligent life forms. I have read an interesting book on the subject called 'In Search of The Multiverse' by John Gribben. Interesting read available at Amazon..I have also read 'Book of The Universes' which is a little more technical and have one yet to read called 'Visions of the Multiverse' by Manly..

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I find it a very interesting topic as well. I've wonder if perhaps these Universe can merge. In a similar fashion that 2 galaxies merge in our Universe. Perhaps that is what caused the Big Bang.. You have 2 different Universes with slightly different constants and physics.. They merge and BANG...

I've always enjoyed thinking about what could be.

The problem with the multiverse concept is that supposedly a new universe is created not only by each choice we make but by the outcome of every possible action.
So if THAT hydrogen atom is fused in the core of a sun as opposed to that other atom being fused in that particular femtosecond; then a new universe is spawned from that. And for each and every atom in each and every sun and then each and every atom in each and every sun in all those newly. .. .Well you get the idea.
Do you realize that there would be so many new universes created each femtosecond as a result of JUST those actions?

If each decision spawns an alternative universe in which the other decision was made, what level of decision is required to spawn another universe? Whether President Obama decides to nuke China? Whether President Mugabe decides to have one person shot? Whether I decide to end this sentence with a question mark or full stop.

Is it only humans who have the power to spawn universes, or does another universe spawn because a fly decides whether to land on my bread or go for the tomato? Is a conscious decision required, or can a bacterium spawn a universe because it happened to land on a particular spot rather than 0.5mm to the left? How many universes do you spawn when you launch your rocket and the igniter fires/does not fire, the parachute does/does not eject, the rocket lands in/misses the tree, etc.?

The big problem with this is akin to my qualms over the explanations for quantum mechanics. "Observation" like "decision" is something without clearly defined parameters. Furthermore, there is a perception that intelligent beings are the ones that make the observations and decisions but no one clearly defines what level of intelligence is needed. (If indeed that is relevant).

As to the critique of why care about free will - my view as I read this philosophy is that the forking is not just binary but rather a probability cloud with more "worlds" created that source from the most probable outcomes.

My impression, upon reflection on some of the responses here would be that so many universes would be created every moment, that an infinite source of energy would be required. Physics therefore says "No."

Peartree said:

My impression, upon reflection on some of the responses here would be that so many universes would be created every moment, that an infinite source of energy would be required. Physics therefore says "No."

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What if there was an equilibrium? What if the physics of one universe did not require as organized energy say as another. That energy lost in one through entropy could sustain another? Or, say, it efficiently re-organized entropic energy????

boomtube said:

The problem with the multiverse concept is that supposedly a new universe is created not only by each choice we make but by the outcome of every possible action.
So if THAT hydrogen atom is fused in the core of a sun as opposed to that other atom being fused in that particular femtosecond; then a new universe is spawned from that. And for each and every atom in each and every sun and then each and every atom in each and every sun in all those newly. .. .Well you get the idea.
Do you realize that there would be so many new universes created each femtosecond as a result of JUST those actions?

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I don't particularly believe in that theory... That there is a universe for every possibility as you suggest. Because as you state there would be an infinite amount of them. They would also generate at an increasing rate.

But what I do believe is possible is that there are other Universes out there. In similar fashion that we have Galaxies in the universe. They just have different compositions constants and different laws of physics. Some might be similar in the sense that we have galaxies that are similar.

Peartree said:

My impression, upon reflection on some of the responses here would be that so many universes would be created every moment, that an infinite source of energy would be required. Physics therefore says "No."

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But that is according to physics in our Universe. The physics of a multiverse could be different. You're also assuming our understanding of physics is 100% correct. Our understanding of physics may not be 100% correct.