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I'd want to participate. It makes sense to do it club by club. Me, Thobin and any other UROC/TRF member would all fly at before passing it on to the next club. Saves $$$ on shipping!

Alex
 
Does anyone have any experience with shipping a rocket full of bp residue? I see this as being a possible issue domestically and internationally, but I don't know for sure.

? is residue now regulated?

LOL....
its a joke!... we could mark them... :"model airplane parts":--
i am sure they would xray it before comming and arresting someone....
 
? is residue now regulated?

LOL....
its a joke!... we could mark them... :"model airplane parts":--
i am sure they would xray it before comming and arresting someone....

Or we could just give it a go - let's put your name on it first.
 
I'd want to participate. It makes sense to do it club by club. Me, Thobin and any other UROC/TRF member would all fly at before passing it on to the next club. Saves $$$ on shipping!

Alex

Good Idea.

TA
 
Or we could just give it a go - let's put your name on it first.

jfils Deuce hasn't seem to have any problem with shipping a BP residue rocket. I ship tons of stuff of this size and weight and 90% of time a regular priority box is cheaper than a flat rate. I understand this is a sucky economy and some cant participate because cost of shipping. No one is going to hold that against you, maybe work it out with your local club and share the cost. Alex has the right idea. Lets have no more naysayers, lets just do it.


TA
 
And died with a whimper... :(

That was I think maybe because it was a all 50 states thing,:confused2: this is more just a TRF member thing.

TA
 
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And died with a whimper... :(
Which is why I posted...don't think it will work any better now.

Having it member based vs. state would work better in that there is no measure of success other than the participants having fun. If this starts, I recommend a managing member to keep a running list of who has flown it. Maybe the mods could sticky the list somewhere.
 
jfils Deuce hasn't seem to have any problem with shipping a BP residue rocket. I ship tons of stuff of this size and weight and 90% of time a regular priority box is cheaper than a flat rate. I understand this is a sucky economy and some cant participate because cost of shipping. No one is going to hold that against you, maybe work it out with your local club and share the cost. Alex has the right idea. Lets have no more naysayers, lets just do it.


TA

I have no objection to the idea, was not "nay-saying". Just bringing up a potential issue - may throw up a red flag somewhere in the world we now live in.
 
Hate to be a Debbie Downer here but what happens if said rocket ends up in a large tree or some other unrecoverable area? I would not want to be known as "the guy who lost the TRF rocket"
Michael
 
Ok Bubba02STi you started this. I will start building a rocket tonight, get someone to help you with tracking. Get us a sticky from the mods, I think the rules you posted are fine. Only add the original builder can call for the rocket back if the interest dies and no one is sending it around. Im headed to the post office to get some Priority mail boxes so we will have an idea of shipping.

:headbang:

TA
 
Hate to be a Debbie Downer here but what happens if said rocket ends up in a large tree or some other unrecoverable area? I would not want to be known as "the guy who lost the TRF rocket"
Michael

We all get to take turns punching you in the gut. Then you get to rebuild it. :) Part of the fun and risk.


TA
 
Well figuring out if shipping is possible is easy ill call a post office... for the rocket it will need to be a lpr 24mm that can launch e motors or d with the spacer... the more i think about it having a scratch built rocket may be better but it would need to be stupid simple to rebuild in the case it does get lost... all 50 states is a side objective... the main one is trf members... it being nacy'd around to a bunch of members at a club launch is fine... having an altimiter and sd card wouldnt be bad but i see it being an expensive risk... the rocket it self shouldnt cost more then $20 in easity accessable parts too.. ill post more about this later when im done at work
 
Ok Bubba02STi you started this. I will start building a rocket tonight, get someone to help you with tracking. Get us a sticky from the mods, I think the rules you posted are fine. Only add the original builder can call for the rocket back if the interest dies and no one is sending it around. Im headed to the post office to get some Priority mail boxes so we will have an idea of shipping.

:headbang:

TA
Dont include any motor restrictions! I dont want an F240 NOT to fit! ;)
What size of rocket are you building?

Alex
 
Perhaps an available RockSim and/or OpenRocket file would be great too. That way each recipient could sim whatever motor/delay/conditions they want before getting and launching it. This would also greatly reduce the chances of it getting lost or damaged along the way.

Seems to me including a Alt1 or Alt2 wouldn't be a big deal expense, if everyone who was to fly it chipped in a couple bucks (I'd be game for that myself). The question is who it belongs to in the long run - perhaps it could be donated to a worthy young acolyte, or given to the highest altitude flyer, or even raffled off?. That said, I bet a lot of the individual flyers would have their own - perhaps enough of them that "most" of the flights could have data.

s6
 
Perhaps an available RockSim and/or OpenRocket file would be great too. That way each recipient could sim whatever motor/delay/conditions they want before getting and launching it. This would also greatly reduce the chances of it getting lost or damaged along the way.

Seems to me including a Alt1 or Alt2 wouldn't be a big deal expense, if everyone who was to fly it chipped in a couple bucks (I'd be game for that myself). The question is who it belongs to in the long run - perhaps it could be donated to a worthy young acolyte, or given to the highest altitude flyer, or even raffled off?. That said, I bet a lot of the individual flyers would have their own - perhaps enough of them that "most" of the flights could have data.

s6

A raffle seems like a good idea... and actually, perhaps the finished piece could be raffled off altimeter/signed rocket , with proceeds going to the TRF site owner to help offset the cost of providing the forum we all use on a near daily (some of us hourly) basis...
 
Seems to me including a Alt1 or Alt2 wouldn't be a big deal expense, if everyone who was to fly it chipped in a couple bucks (I'd be game for that myself). The question is who it belongs to in the long run - perhaps it could be donated to a worthy young acolyte, or given to the highest altitude flyer, or even raffled off?. That said, I bet a lot of the individual flyers would have their own - perhaps enough of them that "most" of the flights could have data.s6

I like this idea too but not as a requirement, Yes No? The rocket I'm building will have Avionics bay if some wishes to include a altimeter with his flight.

Its hard to not put a motor restriction, all BP motors need a motor block, and that will be as big as you can go. I'm sure that Estes E's or D's will be the main motor flown. Its kinda hard to do them with out some kind of motor block. There are a bunch of composite motors that can be flown at that size.

Well I found to priority boxes that are big enough to fit a rocket and one of them is pushing it (Shoe Box) and the other one is bucks to mail. Maybe the way to go is first class mail, and bag the priority mail it may take a week but the rates are lower and boxes are not that hard to come by. And this way you don't have to build a rocket around the size of priority boxes they have.



Priority Mail Regional Rate Box - C
14 ¾″ x 11 ¾″ x 11 ½″

Priority Mail Shoe Box
7½″ x 5 1/8″ x 14 3/8″


TA
 
A raffle seems like a good idea... and actually, perhaps the finished piece could be raffled off altimeter/signed rocket , with proceeds going to the TRF site owner to help offset the cost of providing the forum we all use on a near daily (some of us hourly) basis...

This beats my idea of sending it to the space expliration museum we have here
 
Its hard to not put a motor restriction, all BP motors need a motor block, and that will be as big as you can go.
No motor block needed. All you need is some masking tape to form a thrust ring on the BP motors.
Here's a 12 A3-4T cluster with tape thrust rings. DSC00092.jpg
I do agree, 24mm is the right size motor mount.
 
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If someone could send it to Germany then we could add Europe to the list :)
 
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