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If containment fails and everything so far has shown that it will or already has, then looking at a 40% to 70% global infection rate and a 2% fatality rate, between 72million and 126million deaths globally.
 
Uh-Oh, that's a problem.

What do you want him to say, "its a big deal" then everyone panics with the potential for riots. Most leaders have been saying its not a big deal up to now, and most opposition is taking advantage of that and pointing fingers, that is what politicians do. I think they are changing their tone though.

I am In Canada and our Federal government has been far more positive or lax than your government. They are politicians so they are afraid of being labelled racist and the negative affect this will have on the economy. I get the second part but the first part is self serving.

Heck, Trudeau even gave away 6 million or so worth of our emergency medical supplies to China; supplies that we may very well need and if so I don't expect China will return the favour, or even be in a position to do so if they wanted to.

I say get what you think you need to do to ensure that you and your loved ones are safe, and don't let the optimism bias and special interests of some stop you.
 
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And you're extremely likely not to die from it.
And you are likely not even to know you were infected with it. The majority of infected people have quite mild symptoms indistinguishable from regular flu, cold or dry cough.

For this reason the number of people actually infected could be greatly underestimated. China's stats (I know might not be trustworthy) is that fatality rate outside of Wuhan has been around 0.4% as widespread testing has begun.

Calm down, wash your hands and keep your distance from people with coughs.
 
And you are likely not even to know you were infected with it. The majority of infected people have quite mild symptoms indistinguishable from regular flu, cold or dry cough.

For this reason the number of people actually infected could be greatly underestimated. China's stats (I know might not be trustworthy) is that fatality rate outside of Wuhan has been around 0.4% as widespread testing has begun.

Calm down, wash your hands and keep your distance from people with coughs.
And given the number of psuedo-docs (PA-C's) that tend to be making medical decisions these days, its even less likely they will get the right diagnosis....until its too late.

And yes I think that over the last 6-8 years quality of medical care and proper diagnosis has gone down the crapper due to fewer doctors actually being directly involved in the exam and treatment process.
 
Back on topic . . .

People's positions on the severity of the Coronavirus vary widely from "it's nothing" to "it's the end of the human race" . . . Obviously, the truth is somewhere in between !

Personally, I would rather assume that it is must worse, and remain safe, than to blow it off and suffer the ultimate consequences. I want my family & friends to be safe, too, naturally.

China has not been forthcoming and I don't not trust the "numbers" they are supplying. I believe that the severity of the epidemic / pandemic has been, and is being, grossly understated.

Dave F.
 
If it was a real pandemic capable of killing millions the focus wouldn't be on petty politics and economic worry.
 
I think everyone can agree that the numbers out of China were incorrect. Some say its because of the state deliberately under-reporting whereas some say its just because its hard to diagnose properly but it really doesn't matter the source of the inaccuracies. I don't think we'll get true infection rate and fatality rates until it really hits a country that has the ability to test fully and accurately and will honestly report the results. S.Korea, Japan, Italy are good candidates for that now that we have good tests available. Give it another week or two and review the rates there and I think you'll see what can be expected in the rest of the world.

I personally think its a good policy to keep a few days supplies (food, water, meds, etc) on hand at all times regardless of whats going on in the world. I'll be increasing that amount from a few days to 2 weeks. Doesn't hurt to do it since I'll use it all up anyway. I'd recommend the same to anyone not out of fear of anything happening due to the virus but because its good policy regardless.
 
And given the number of psuedo-docs (PA-C's) that tend to be making medical decisions these days, its even less likely they will get the right diagnosis....until its too late.

And yes I think that over the last 6-8 years quality of medical care and proper diagnosis has gone down the crapper due to fewer doctors actually being directly involved in the exam and treatment process.

I have been fortunate to have two great Dr.s take care of me. One retired and the one i see now is amazing !! I get it how it really is and she takes the time to explain things in ways I understand. She helped me beat Diabetes....
 
Because I want to be able to discuss different aspects of it, in my own thread, than are in the other thread, Chuck.

Plus, I can actually post in this thread . . .

Dave F.

Ok. I was a bit grumpy this morning. I am being pulled to a new project for a few weeks - Disaster Planning - Guess the disaster!
 
When the Coronapacalypse hits and you don’t have any limes, you’ll worry.

Heck, I am a pseudo expert. This will be my fourth pandemic prevention planning. H1N1, eBola, SARS, and now Covid. My planning for H1N1 prevented the spread in Egypt. I am not worried. Relax, wash your hands, and avoid unneeded trips. This a good time to relax and avoid China, South Korea, and Italy.

If you are 3 rows away on a plane, your risk is exceptionally low, today.
 
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The other day I was in the grocery store and this lady coughed on the glass door while she was looking out the window waiting for her UBER. Left spray all over it... Hands were free, just a nice open cough to share with all walking by. :eek:
 
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