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jqavins said:
More people should realize that OR staff were surgical masks to protect the patient, not themselves. They keep pathogenic microbes in, not out. And, if it's not airborne that that isn't doing any good either. And viruses are way smaller than bacteria; I for one don't know of they do any good to keep airborne viruses in. And the last I heard it's not yet known if this virus can be transmitted by someone who's asymptomatic but probably not, and anyone who is symptomatic shouldn't be out in public. Put it all together and the masks are probably doing no good at all.

Also, it appears that while the new virus is scary because it is new, this one seems to be less deadly than the flu. The next one: who knows?
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Ditto, Masks to protect from the spread of viruses is totally bogus and isn't effective. Viruses are way too small and simply pass through.

Researchers ran infected serum during the great influenza epidemic from over 100 years ago. They passed virus infected serum through finer and finer filters. They finally got down to the most fine filter they could use, porcelain. When that serum was finally re-injected into rabbits the rabbits all lived. That tipped off the Johns Hopkins researchers that they were dealing with an incredibly small pathogen. I suspect the masks they are all wearing in China are totally useless in the prevention of the spread of the disease. Kurt
 
ksaves2 said:
Ditto, Masks to protect from the spread of viruses is totally bogus and isn't effective. Viruses are way too small and simply pass through.

Researchers ran infected serum during the great influenza epidemic from over 100 years ago. They passed virus infected serum through finer and finer filters. They finally got down to the most fine filter they could use, porcelain. When that serum was finally re-injected into rabbits the rabbits all lived. That tipped off the Johns Hopkins researchers that they were dealing with an incredibly small pathogen. I suspect the masks they are all wearing in China are totally useless in the prevention of the spread of the disease. Kurt
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Suspect even a lot of respiratory stuff is mask resistant

Cough or sneeze to surface (doorknob)
Surface to hand of uninfected victim
Hand to eye of uninfected victim (how often do you casually rub your eyes!)
Eye to tears
Tears to nasolacrimal duct to nasal mucosa (this is why your nose runs when you cry)
Blam, you are in the respiratory tract.

Mask doesn’t help at all.
 
BABAR said:
Mask doesn’t help at all.
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While I agree with most of what you said, I believe the general consensus in the medical community believe that masks do help in contracting viruses.

What I have read says that if you wear a mask then you are less likely to directly itch your nose or touch your mouth. Also if the infected wore a mask then they would mitigate making it airborne.

There is no easy button, it is a matter of mitigating. Grains of sand make a heap.
 
The way masks work is for sick people to wear them. Traps a good percentage of globules on their way out. Not perfect by wide margin because isolated virus particles are so small. In Asia it is polite to wear a mask if you have cold or cough or whatever.

Masks do little for healthy people.
 
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Our Pup Bear after watching the Super Bowl with my wife screaming at the TV all night..
 

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My brother was reassembling the engine to a Beemer. Started putting the intake on, and came up a bolt short. Pulled everything back off, pulled the head. There it was, sitting on top of the piston in #1 hole. Glad he hadn't even tried to turn the motor over by hand as these are interference motors (jump a timing belt/chain and buy a new motor).

I also remember in "the old days" when after a tune-up, mechanics would slowly drop grains of uncooked rice down the carburator. The grains were hard enough to knock carbon off, but soft enough not to damage engine.
 
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It’s a repeat, but still funny.

Reminds me of the mythological story
Debunked on Myth Busters



One of the guys drove a truck (per story, brand new SUV) out onto a frozen lake, threw a stick of dynamite to blow a hole for ducks or fishing or something. The dog retrieved the dynamite, hid under the SUV, and the explosive blew up the dog, the ice, and sunk the SUV.
 
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BABAR said:
It’s a repeat, but still funny.

Reminds me of the mythological story
Debunked on Myth Busters



Of the guys who drove a truck (per story, brand new SUV) out onto a frozen lake, threw a stick of dynamite to blow a hole for ducks or fishing or something. The dog retrieved the dynamite, hid under the SUV, and the explosive blew up the dog, the ice, and sunk the SUV.
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I was fully expecting (hoping?) the truck to drag into the lake whatever they chained it to.
 
ksaves2 said:
Ditto, Masks to protect from the spread of viruses is totally bogus and isn't effective. Viruses are way too small and simply pass through.

Researchers ran infected serum during the great influenza epidemic from over 100 years ago. They passed virus infected serum through finer and finer filters. They finally got down to the most fine filter they could use, porcelain. When that serum was finally re-injected into rabbits the rabbits all lived. That tipped off the Johns Hopkins researchers that they were dealing with an incredibly small pathogen. I suspect the masks they are all wearing in China are totally useless in the prevention of the spread of the disease. Kurt
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Viruses are not spread by the actual individual virus particles. "Airborne infections spread when bacteria or viruses travel on dust particles or small respiratory droplets that become aerosolized when an infected person sneezes or coughs. Healthy people can inhale the infectious droplets, or the droplets can land on their eyes, nose and mouth." So if the respirator stops the dust or droplets, they stop the virus, assuming you don't cross contaminate yourself when you remove the mask.


Tony
 

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