Picard

By Grabthar's Hammer, George will never miss an opportunity to see a smidgen of political in a thread and complain about it by dumping two full scoops of political in it, as an attempt to complain about political posts. Typical George.

One word....... Torrents.

Mushtang said:

By Grabthar's Hammer, George will never miss an opportunity to see a smidgen of political in a thread and complain about it by dumping two full scoops of political in it, as an attempt to complain about political posts. Typical George.

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what a savings

Tobor said:

One word....... Torrents.

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You mean B'Elanna Torrrents? Honestly. I don't think I was a fan of ST:V, but I seem to remember all of the episodes every time it comes up

After watching the fist episode pf ST/P, I find myself wondering if yellow-eyes are more reliable than green-eyes, and if the Daystrom Institute ever considered building orange-eyes -- and wasn't Bruce Maddox the designer who left the Tyrell corporation for Hyperdyne Systems (where he worked on the 341-B)?

jlabrasca said:

You mean B'Elanna Torrrents? Honestly. I don't think I was a fan of ST:V, but I seem to remember all of the episodes every time it comes up

After watching the fist episode pf ST/P, I find myself wondering if yellow-eyes are more reliable than green-eyes, and if the Daystrom Institute ever considered building orange-eyes -- and wasn't Bruce Maddox the designer who left the Tyrell corporation for Hyperdyne Systems (where he worked on the 341-B)?

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I thought his last name was Willis and aka "the Punisher"?

astronwolf said:

Maybe you guys are just too stiff.

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That's not what my wife says!

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Wow! Looks like Whoopie Goldberg is coming back for season two! After fan service cameos, episode 4 is rumored to really the ball rolling. After all the reported reshoots and after the bad test screenings, I hope they can pull off a really first class woke show. If Guinan would open a can of whoop bottom and make that misogynist cracker yell for his Little Pony, I would tune in. But it would have to make Watchmen look tame. I'm going for 110%, Kathleen Kennedy wokeness here. I would want many shippable characters and to go much further than STD. A real Clock Orange style horror show for us little droogs. But they fried Michael Chabon who was supposed to fix things , so again my hopes are not high.

Maybe season two will be fully controlled by a new production company with Viacom rights.

Daddyisabar said:

A real Clock Orange style horror show for us little droogs. But they fried Michael Chabon who was supposed to fix things , so again my hopes are not high.

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Fried chabon with orange clocks, over rice, with a side of gagh,

I watched the first episode just now. It wasn't bad.

Daddyisabar said:

... The new CBS Management is very worried about STP after the disaster of STD on all access.

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For me, the problem is that it is only on All Access. If it were in OTA CBS, I would have watched it. I'm not subscribing to another streaming service, especially for 1 show. If management was concerned about Picard because of the performance of Discovery, they should blame the platform and not the series.

NateB said:

I'm not subscribing to another streaming service, especially for 1 show.

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There are multiple Star Trek series projects underway, and they will all be found on CBS All Access. "Picard" and "Discovery" are just the first two efforts to hit the service. Forthcoming are two separate animated series, a series centered on the Michelle Yeoh character from "Discovery." Additionally, there are rumors of a forthcoming series centered on the Pike/Number One/Spock years on the Enterprise. So, while All Access may not make financial sense right now, it may for you in the future.

No one has mentioned the "Short Treks" series, also found on CBS All Access, which are short films that take place in the ST universe. The episode "Q&A," featuring Number One and Spock stuck in an elevator, might just be the single best 12 minutes of "Star Trek" in the entire canon.

georgegassaway said:

NOT the Abrams verse, it's the original ST universe before the Abrams split-off where Vulcan got destroyed (where original ST history was changed and Spock hooked up with Uhura, which never happened in TOS , among many other things).

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Actually, the producers have been coy about which timeline (Prime or Kelvin) in which the new series is set, and suggestions have been made that it may it fact take place in a hybrid timeline, bridging the two universes. The inflection point driving the "Picard" plot is in fact the destruction of the Romulan home world that was central to the 2009 Abrams ST reboot.

James Duffy said:

There are multiple Star Trek series projects underway, and they will all be found on CBS All Access. "Picard" and "Discovery" are just the first two efforts to hit the service. Forthcoming are two separate animated series, a series centered on the Michelle Yeoh character from "Discovery." Additionally, there are rumors of a forthcoming series centered on the Pike/Number One/Spock years on the Enterprise. So, while All Access may not make financial sense right now, it may for you in the future.

No one has mentioned the "Short Treks" series, also found on CBS All Access, which are short films that take place in the ST universe. The episode "Q&A," featuring Number One and Spock stuck in an elevator, might just be the single best 12 minutes of "Star Trek" in the entire canon.

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The Michelle Yeoh series was just canceled.

jlabrasca said:

Fried chabon with orange clocks, over rice, with a side of gagh,

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Sounds delicious. If only it resulted in good story telling. Space opera is not that hard, but all these hacks can do is take part of an existing IP and destroy it with Mary Sue protagonists, disrespect for cannon and original characters, plot holes, poor pacing, nonsense character arcs and heavy handed political messaging.

Kathleen Kennedy just halted production on Obi-Wan because she did not like the script that was supposedly in place last year. I'm sure she needs a strong female character as the key lead and destruction of the Tusken Raider patriarchy at a minimum. The Force is Female!

I am not spending money on all these niche services. Bad enough I subscribe to Netflix. There is a lot of free show apps on my Roku.
So no I don’t plan on watching till it hits the reruns.

Marc_G said:

I'm enjoying The Expanse

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I have been enjoying that show t least up to season three. I don't subscribe to Amazon Prime, but I am considering it just to see season 4 and 5.

mpitfield said:

I have been enjoying that show t least up to season three. I don't subscribe to Amazon Prime, but I am considering it just to see season 4 and 5.

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This.
I pay almost $200.00 for cable and internet currently. I loved the first three seasons of the Expanse, but I'm not paying another service for shows. AFAIC, the show died after season 3 and will stay that way in my mind unless I can rent it on blu ray or watch it on my GF's Netflix.

I dumped cable in 2009 and never looked back. I pay $80 for Gig fiber internet plus landline (yes I still have one, it's free with the internet). Prime I have anyway since I order stuff all the time so that streaming is effectively free. Netflix disc plus steaming is about $18 and I think I pay Hulu $12 each month.

jd2cylman said:

This.
I pay almost $200.00 for cable and internet currently. I loved the first three seasons of the Expanse, but I'm not paying another service for shows. AFAIC, the show died after season 3 and will stay that way in my mind unless I can rent it on blu ray or watch it on my GF's Netflix.

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I did a binge on season 4 yesterday using Amazon's 30 day trial. I am looking forward to season 5

Watched the first episode. Not sure I liked it.

If it isn't on basic cable, I can't see it.

Meh.

It'll come around in re-runs eventually.

Marc_G said:

I dumped cable in 2009 and never looked back.

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This. Dumped the cable or the satellite TV. Never looked back.

mpitfield said:

I have been enjoying that show t least up to season three. I don't subscribe to Amazon Prime, but I am considering it just to see season 4 and 5.

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I'm in the same situation. I normally don't like to do business with Amazon (long political story, not going into it), but being as there are no other legit sources, I figured I would buy season 4 on disc like have done with season 1-3. Nope. Only way to see season 4 was to be a Prime member, which I didn't want to pay for. Then I discovered their free 30-day trial, and watched season 4 via my wife's Amazon account. Know what? Their streaming service isn't all that hot, constant buffering, hiccups in starting streams, and while the selection is better than Netflix, I've run out of things I want to watch so its getting cancelled.

I wanted to PAY for the season, but nooo, they wouldn't allow me to pay, banking on my becoming hooked on Prime, which I wasn't. I guess I'll sign up for another account and free 30-day trial for season 5. I dislike gaming the system like this, but it seems to be the only way to not pay for a Prime membership since they don't want to let me pay for the show on disk/per episode.

To bring it back around to Picard, I watched it Sunday night. I was a little disappointed there was not more "flight" scenes but I do realize that this episode was laying the groundwork for what is to come. I don't know what all this "woke" stuff that is talked about here is. Maybe I'm just oblivious or maybe some here are just too "tuned in" to such affronts. Anyway, I'll looking forward to watching the next one.

-Bob

CBS forcing use of their streaming service CBS All Access is only a U.S. issue. I live near Detroit, which is across the river from Windsor, Ontario, Canada so I listen to some Windsor radio stations. They routinely have Canadian focused commercials for TV. Picard and Discovery can be watched on CTVs SyFy channel.

It’s also available on Netflix outside of North America.

Tobor said:

One word....... Torrents.

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Two words - Copyright Infingement.

IIRC, a major breach of TRF rules to advocate illegal downloads. Or at least used to be.

Hey, episode 1 is free, for a limited time:

Watched the pilot, lame!

Watched Episode 2 last night.

Gets way too deep into technobabble. The magical technology is too magical, even for Star Trek. They appear to be in a hurry to get to the action. I'll keep watching -- even though I really do feel like the writers have just thrown a bunch of science fiction tropes from other (well received) shows and movies into a blender. Its still fun watching Patrick Stewart play Picard.

I do wonder how many plotting and editorial decisions are being made because the producers haven't figured out how direct-to-streaming shows are, or ought to be, different from broadcast-TV shows. The cuts for the eventual commercial breaks were (to me) a lot more obtrusive in this episode than in the pilot.

georgegassaway said:

Some things from TOS would be done a bit differently today, no more mini-skirts (which were gone by Star Trek: The Motion Picture).

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Well, there was Jadzia in a TOS mini dress that one time. And if "Hubba-Hubba" is insensitive, so be it.

James Duffy said:

Actually, the producers have been coy about which timeline (Prime or Kelvin) in which the new series is set, and suggestions have been made that it may it fact take place in a hybrid timeline, bridging the two universes.

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Oh, dear god, say it ain't so! The biggest of many problems with the Abrams garbage is that it wants to be an alternate timeline (created by Nero's attack on the Kelvin) and a total reboot at the same time. By trying to have it both ways he made a steaming pile. Now you say that CBS may be trying to bridge Abrams's steaming pile and real Trek? That is the worst possible idea for a Trek production. That would be like making a nice pot of chili - maybe a great pot and maybe only OK - and spicing it up with a literal pile of crap. Now it's no good as food or as fertilizer!