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There are some monstrous model rockets and RC aircraft that just seems silly to call them 'models' anymore. Where is that dividing line?
There are some monstrous model rockets and RC aircraft that just seems silly to call them 'models' anymore. Where is that dividing line?
Here I was trying to come up with some philosophical answer, but you nailed it in six characters!FAR 101
There are some monstrous model rockets and RC aircraft that just seems silly to call them 'models' anymore. Where is that dividing line?
Yet many a model has been built for movie effects. Aircraft restoration can be done for the 'fun of it' as well.I would say "the real thing" is something purpose-built around a mission. Normally the mission is scientific, commercial or military.
I say I build "models" because I do it for the fun of it; it's a hobby not a business.
I agree. There's still the question that remains regarding what defines the difference to call one one thing and the other something else. I think it's going to be more difficult than people initially think.I'm of the school of thought that says they are all "real". It's just that most "model airplanes" and "model rockets" are generally small-scale airplanes or rockets. To me if it actually operates as airplane or rocket—that it flies using the same principles—it's real, it's just a miniature airplane or rocket.
Static models are models to me.
Interesting discussion.
I see upon re-reading this doesn't really address the OP's question, though....
Good points!I'm of the school of thought that says they are all "real".
Static models are models to me.
Neither is a flying model. So the point is moot as to whether something is static and/or flying. It doesn't define the difference between a model or the real thing.True, but those aircraft weren't originally built for static display.
And let's not go down the Plastic Model Conversion rabbit hole....
FAR 101
Models, especially flying models have specific application and intent. They are designed and engineered to duplicate flying attributes of their full scale counterparts. I remember seeing B-17's converted to RC applications which remained unmanned. They were called 'drones' back in the day.
So the Saturn V rockets on display at KSC and Houston have never flown. Are they models or the real thing?
Do you mean legally or philosophically? Words can have more than one meaning depending on context, and both meanings be "correct" in their proper places; there's no contradiction there. For legally, Steve has the answer (as usual) and that's that. So, philosophically...There are some monstrous model rockets and RC aircraft that just seems silly to call them 'models' anymore. Where is that dividing line?
So, when you repeat the design in many builds that all serve the same purpose? You're copying a design, right? Even if you're not the original builde, so you're copying someone else's design, I still wouldn't say that means it can't be the "real thing".If you are copying a previous design... it's not an original design.
The "real thing" is when you design it, build it and fly it... all from scratch, all on YOU!
This is a fair point, but a little off the mark (as you stated later in the same post). If it flies by rocket propulsion it's a rocket, but can still be a model.I'm of the school of thought that says they are all "real". It's just that most "model airplanes" and "model rockets" are generally small-scale airplanes or rockets. To me if it actually operates as airplane or rocket—that it flies using the same principles—it's real, it's just a miniature airplane or rocket.
Was that the meaning of the original question? Sure, Model Rocket with capital letters is basically synonymous with LPR, but I really don't think that's the point.Many of the things under discussion in this thread are models to be sure, but they are not Model Rockets.
This first paragraph, I'd say, is 100% the bang-on answer. But one can build models, even flying models, as a business. Most of us don't. It's the mission that matters. Often with technical implications; those missions can add a lot of weight, requiring engines/motors of a kind most of us will never approach. Those engines/motors can be a good indicator, even though they're not the defining factor.I would say "the real thing" is something purpose-built around a mission. Normally the mission is scientific, commercial or military.
I say I build "models" because I do it for the fun of it; it's a hobby not a business.
There are some monstrous model rockets and RC aircraft that just seems silly to call them 'models' anymore. Where is that dividing line?
There are some monstrous model rockets and RC aircraft that just seems silly to call them 'models' anymore. Where is that dividing line?
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