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I always assumed that the HPR forum was the BAR forum; does it not stand for Big Ass Rocket?
 
Flyfalcons said:
This whole forum is mostly populated with BARs.
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cerving said:
[O]ld people like us just love telling stories.
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And that's why we have The Watering Hole. Heck, we call it that because so many of us old fart BARs need to water our horses when we get to the launch. (And our clubs can't afford proper watering troughs.)
 
JCRL said:
I always assumed that the HPR forum was the BAR forum; does it not stand for Big Ass Rocket?
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It could but it didn't make this list: https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Born+Again+Rocketeer

When I came back to the hobby in 2006 the folks in the local NAR club that I joined called me a BAR. I think it has been a commonly accepted description/acronym among NAR and Tripoli club flyers since at least the 1980's. My observation is that there is more interest in the old kits on the other forum that Initiator001 linked to in post #4. Certainly a lot (most ?) TRFers are also BARs.
 
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As stated above, there is a huge number of BARs on this forum, maybe a majority. So the specific notion of a BAR subforum makes little sense to me.

However, a reasonable interpretation of the original request would be to have a subforum dedicated to the history of model rocketry. Anecdotes about the old times are quite interesting and generally scattered around various subforums. It would not be a bad thing necessarily to put that all in one place, although at this point I'm not too enthusiastic about having *any* more subforums since there are already so darn many.

YORF certainly does have quite a bit of excellent model rocketry history discussion, and yes some of the warnings above do apply. However, one of the biggest annoyances on YORF is the endless gratuitous bashing of TRF and its members, so let's not fall into that trap over here.
 
neil_w said:
As stated above, there is a huge number of BARs on this forum, maybe a majority. So the specific notion of a BAR subforum makes little sense to me.

However, a reasonable interpretation of the original request would be to have a subforum dedicated to the history of model rocketry. Anecdotes about the old times are quite interesting and generally scattered around various subforums. It would not be a bad thing necessarily to put that all in one place, although at this point I'm not too enthusiastic about having *any* more subforums since there are already so darn many.

YORF certainly does have quite a bit of excellent model rocketry history discussion, and yes some of the warnings above do apply. However, one of the biggest annoyances on YORF is the endless gratuitous bashing of TRF and its members, so let's not fall into that trap over here.
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Another annoyance is how slow that forum is. This forum is active, and I'd guess gets a hundred posts or more a DAY... Sometimes over there it feels like there's no action at all (and getting questions answered can be slow to get). Generally, I try to treat the people there like I'd like to be treated. Respect and gratitude can get you a lot of things.
 
I view TRF as more of a general purpose rocketry forum.

YORF is geared more towards the past/history of the hobby.

On YORF you can learn about:

The history of the Estes PRO Series products

Mike Dorffler tells how he designed the Blue Bird Zero kit over one weekend

Vern Estes randomly drops in

The history of the original re-start of Semroc

Rocketry products that were never released

Ask for help with finding out what parts were used with an old kit

No HPR?! The history of the ORIGINAL HPR company, Enerjet, is discussed

There's more to YORF than you think.

I choose YORF as the place to post all my historical stories.

Don't mention TRF and you will be fine.

Folks are missing out on wonderful amount of knowledge about the hobby which is offered freely.
 
Cnorm said:
Interesting. There's a full grown man (I assume he's an adult) with an unhealthy obsession with poo over there.
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That's the biggest of two reasons I never visit YORF anymore. Every thread he posts in gets at least one mention of poo, and often multiple posts. I actually assumed he was a 12 year old when I first went over there but a 12 year old would have grown out of that by now.

The second reason I avoid it is all the hate of this forum. People who are otherwise fairly nice will become suddenly venomous when the subject of TRF gets brought up. They hate, and I mean HATE, the fact that this forum embraces free enterprise and wants to not only make a profit, but maximize it. None of those people would turn down a pay raise, or for that matter be willing to take a pay cut at their jobs, to show that they despise making money. They seem to think profits are evil, and everything should be provided for free. One of the worst is a farmer in Texas that would probably buy more land if he thought he could plant more cattle (or whatever he farms) and make more money, and wouldn't think twice about it. But he'll type out very, very, very long posts online about how horrible it is that a company bought TRF and dared put ads on here in order to make more money.

I'll peek my head in there about once a year, see that nothing has changed, and come back over here.
 
Mushtang said:
That's the biggest of two reasons I never visit YORF anymore. Every thread he posts in gets at least one mention of poo, and often multiple posts. I actually assumed he was a 12 year old when I first went over there but a 12 year old would have grown out of that by now.

The second reason I avoid it is all the hate of this forum. People who are otherwise fairly nice will become suddenly venomous when the subject of TRF gets brought up. They hate, and I mean HATE, the fact that this forum embraces free enterprise and wants to not only make a profit, but maximize it. None of those people would turn down a pay raise, or for that matter be willing to take a pay cut at their jobs, to show that they despise making money. They seem to think profits are evil, and everything should be provided for free. One of the worst is a farmer in Texas that would probably buy more land if he thought he could plant more cattle (or whatever he farms) and make more money, and wouldn't think twice about it. But he'll type out very, very, very long posts online about how horrible it is that a company bought TRF and dared put ads on here in order to make more money.

I'll peek my head in there about once a year, see that nothing has changed, and come back over here.
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Couldn't have said it all better myself. It's too bad because there *are* a lot of good people there.
 
That's a shame that valuable information is lost in all the noise over on YORF.

The OP didn't really clarify what the BAR forum would be about. Or why it would be needed as a separate forum. Falcon195 are you still here?
 

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