Prometheus and Alien: Covenant – Deep or Dumb?

Now that I "get it" and because this was supposed to be trilogy, I wish they'd produce the formerly planned 3rd film, but Alien: Covenant did so badly that there may not be one.

This did not stop me from watching or enjoying them?

jeffjblack said:

This did not stop me from watching or enjoying them?

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WATCHING them is what stopped me from enjoying them. Yeesh. At least I saw them on cable (didn't pay to see them), and was able to fast-forward the last one near the end to zip thru the extended gory kill everybody gratuitous scenes (at some point it is BORING!) to see if there was any PLOT on the other side of those scenes. Nope.

DONE.

I liked them. I wouldn't consider them "deep" but I don't think they deserved the criticism they received. I thought they were entertaining and interesting enough for the genre.

I look forward to whatever Ridley Scott puts out in the future.

Prometheus was a bit boring as well as hard to figure out although I did better the second time I saw it. Covenant was too intense/depressing to me. I like a somewhat happy ending and Covenant was nothing but hopeless.

The first 2 Alien movies were innovative and interesting. Alien3 had a boring plot. Resurrection had its good points and bad points.

I fell like the current trilogy was criticized so much, at least by fans, because it neutered the xenomorphs, and to an extent, the travelers.

The original Alien was a Haunted House movie, tried and true (only in space)...with a monster from the shadows that no one really knew about. It was hard to pin down, had zero origin, other than a wierd space ship with weirder pilot and was all the more scary for it. Aliens was a hardcore action movie about humans getting even with this evil darkness. Aliens3...Well, that suffered from the 90's wanting its' own Aliens....
But..the point is that the Xenomorphs were an unexplainable evil.

The new trilogy shows them to be a handcrafted weapon of a flawed human creation, designed to the embodiment of man's destruction of self. Xenomorphs kill 'the creators' (man's destruction of God), Xenomorphs were created in a manner similar to the development of medicine through history (man's atrocities against man -See WWII), Weyland desire to live forever, to control mortality, ends in his death (the inevitability of death), etc. even the future connection to The Ripley Alien movies drips of 'if you forget the evils of the past, you are doomed to repeat them.'

Basically, Alien went from a fun Horror Flick to extistentialism in Space. Is this, necessarily a bad thing? No, not exactly, but it did lose it's way, and its' 'identity.' Then again, one could argue that Resurrection was a warning against Humans messing with nature and a direct warning against genetic cloning, but that movie was...an attempt to return to the Aliens mentality and find a way to 'shoehorn' Ripley back into pop culture consciousness.

But take that with a grain of movie popcorn salt. I've only had six hours of sleep, combined over the last few days.

jeffjblack said:

This did not stop me from watching or enjoying them?

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I completely missed most of the clues/messages in the movie which are explained in the video I linked to above. BTW, I also "got" the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey only because I read the book.

I just watched Covenant again after reading this post. I still like it despite this being my third viewing.

Prometheus is definitely better the second time around. I watched it again before watching Covenant. I'll watch it again if I have it in the free/paid for pile.

Sometimes I think we're just trying too hard to find some deeper meaning in everything when some activities should just a diversion from the daily grind.

To be honest, I have never really paid too much attention to what critics say. Their opinion doesn't make something more enjoyable. And I frequently enjoy movies that didn't get the big raves.

BTW I never go to the theater. Too expensive and it keeps feeding money into the media.

I also cut the cable years ago and spend most of my viewing time on Pluto TV, VuDu and Amazon.

Cable is dumb in my opinion because your money is divided between all the networks whether you watch them, let alone agree with them or not.

I do pay for specific shows and movies on streaming services from time to time. That way I get to vote with my wallet. I just bought season six of the Blacklist. I just subscribed to Cinemax on Amazon long enough to watch Strike Back. When I'm done I'll turn it off again.

I dropped Netflix and Hulu. If you want my $10/mo you have to try to earn it.