About high power rocker's motor

Hi guys! Me and my team decited to build a high power rocker motor. We are students at the university, that's why we need guide such as document , video. Could you recommend anything that will be useful for us. By the way we are planing to build a K or L motor

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threa...et-motors-belong-in-the-reseach-forum.128714/

Welcome to the forums, but I don't think you are going to find the information you are looking for here? The link above will explain the reason why.

6.5Grendel said:

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threa...et-motors-belong-in-the-reseach-forum.128714/

Welcome to the forums, but I don't think you are going to find the information you are looking for here? The link above will explain the reason why.

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Got it thanks for that

Go to the Tripoli web site, find a TAP near you. Get in touch. There are motor-makers out there who might be willing to serve as a mentor. Under no circumstances would I undertake making a high power rocket motor without a qualified mentor.

Have the professor or leader of the group obtain a Tripoli or NAR L-1 then L-2 certification. Once he or she has the L2 certification join the forum’s research section and also find a motor mentor.

It is easier for teams to buy a high power certified rocket motor of known performance by Aerotech, Loki, or CTI. This is what many student teams starting out do is use a commercial motor. My team has been using commercial motors.

So a decision has been made to start with a K or an L huh?

Read his other thread..

Andrew_ASC said:

Have the professor or leader of the group obtain a Tripoli or NAR L-1 then L-2 certification. Once he or she has the L2 certification join the forum’s research section and also find a motor mentor.

It is easier for teams to buy a high power certified rocket motor of known performance by Aerotech, Loki, or CTI. This is what many student teams starting out do is use a commercial motor. My team has been using commercial motors.

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I am living Turkey. They do not send their rocket motors here unfortunately.

Tripoli is the international rocketry organization. I am a Tripoli member also. If there isn’t a Tripoli prefecture in Turkey it may be possible to start one. There will ultimately be a legal way to send motors as long as end uses are valid.

Andrew_ASC said:

Tripoli is the international rocketry organization. I am a Tripoli member also. If there isn’t a Tripoli prefecture in Turkey it may be possible to start one. There will ultimately be a legal way to send motors as long as end uses are valid.

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Actually in Turkey we have a member of Tripoli. We are trying to contact with him. Thanks for your advice

Andrew_ASC said:

Once he or she has the L2 certification join the forum’s research section...

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An L1 is sufficient to get access to the research forum. (I'm in the research forum and do not yet have my L2.)

jqavins said:

An L1 is sufficient to get access to the research forum. (I'm in the research forum and do not yet have my L2.)

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True but unless he is US citizen, he will not be granted access to Research Forum

Why would citizenship be a deciding factor for access to the research forum?

heada said:

Why would citizenship be a deciding factor for access to the research forum?

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Has to do with ITAR, and keeps us in line with the US government export restrictions on technology.

timbucktoo said:

Has to do with ITAR, and keeps us in line with the US government export restrictions on technology.

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I would argue that anything discussed in the research forum is either common knowledge in the field or within published literature and thus not subject to ITAR.

Some of what is discussed in Research is... wait for it... research. Most of it is based on common knowledge in the field and/or in publicly available literature, but now and then someone might do something new. It's probably not going to get anyone in trouble, but "probably" is a bad word in this context because ITAR penalties are stiff. So it's best just to restrict the forum to US persons as defined by the ITAR regulations. (Which, according to this, includes green card holders, but I would neither presume not pretend to make policy decisions for TRF.)

From the primary post.....

TRF now hosts a restricted forum related to Research Motors. Requirements for access are:

1) NAR or TRA senior member
2) US Person (US Citizen or US Permanent Resident (Green Card Holder))
3) High Power Certification (Level 1, 2 or 3)

TRF is a privately owned, privately funded enterprise. They are free to make whatever rules of access suit their objectives. No one has a right to access any forum; thus, the access rules are what they are. They could just have easily said, "Level 3 with 20 years flying experience," and that would be the rule.

And he is Turkey, so even if he was a US citizen it would be a violation of ITAR to discuss ITAR sensitive topics outside the US.

I agree that TRF can set whatever restrictions they feel they need/want. I still would argue that the topics discussed in the research forum are either well known to the industry or are well documented since we're restricted to APCP or hybrids (no liquids, no BP, etc.) Something that one would think is novel and "research" has been thoroughly tested and documented in the last 50 years by the industry. There are many times I wish we were more open about our hobby. It seems that we try to exclude more often than include.