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You guys bringing this thread back up is making me itch to build mine. But I have three builds going right now. A LOC Expediter, a Bomb Pop that I just washed and am starting next week and I'm guiding my girlfriend on her L1 rocket, a Madcow Super Batray. I'm thinking this X-Celerator would go great with a L1000...

I haven't flown Rapiditty on an L motor yet, but Thrustcurve says that an L1000 would come off the rod at 91 fps and get over 9000 ft. That sounds great to me.

Yeah that's an interesting question there, Wayco. And I would absolutely love to launch duelling X-Celerators. There are two things holding me back.
1. I'll be helping run the LPR launch probably most of the weekend. Depends on if I can get away or not.
2. Biggest motor I have right now is an AT J425 red, which will push it to a measly 1,200 feet.

I'll bring the Finch, prepped and ready. If for no other reason to give Rapiditty tetanus from all the rust. If I can get a break from the LPR launch, and I can find a motor with more oomph, you and I can put on a show.

A J425 isn't even fairly fast. AMW has a few 54mm motors, but are asking a Premium price for them. Not that I blame them, considering current availability, but I probably have more in stock than they do, so I'm not desperate. Let's see how it goes, not like I don't have plenty of other rockets I can fly....
 
Depending on how you build, that L1000 could make the X-Celerator flirt with mach.

What's a bomb pop?

Bomb Pop is from Chris' Rocket Supplies. I picked it up from my vendor this past weekend for a drag race in April. I looked on his site but I didn't see it anywhere. Not sure if it's still available. 3" fiberglass kit with 38mm mount. Looks to be a great kit and should go great with the Jolly Logic Chute Release.
 
I flew my X-Celerator on an L1000 at LDRS34. According to my Raven 2, it got to Mach 0.82 (Accel value) and reached 8360 ft (Baro value)
 
I flew my X-Celerator on an L1000 at LDRS34. According to my Raven 2, it got to Mach 0.82 (Accel value) and reached 8360 ft (Baro value)

That's pretty darn close to the sim I got with OR.
 
A J425 isn't even fairly fast. AMW has a few 54mm motors, but are asking a Premium price for them. Not that I blame them, considering current availability, but I probably have more in stock than they do, so I'm not desperate. Let's see how it goes, not like I don't have plenty of other rockets I can fly....

I have located a K940WT I may be able to get.
 
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So I have one of these I'm getting ready to start working on the fin can for, made a few mods when I ordered the kit. I upped the MMT to 75mm, the fins came stock (roots for 54mm MMT), so far I'm NOT planning to trim the roots, the extra bit of 'flat' fin at the top & bottom of each fin should be covered by my fillets so I don't think I need to take any action here (and for other reasons pulling the Cp back a bit seems like a fine idea). I also had the MMT lengthened and have a TA7539PA tailcone adapter (not as pronounced of a cone since it's only 98->75, not 98->54 like pictured earlier in this thread, but will still look nice I think). This will be my first split-fin, first tailcone and first 75mm MMT (I'm still a L2 and only have 38/54mm cases so far, so it will do a lot of flying with an A5475 adapter at least to start).

But as my first split-fin, I'd really like to get this to whistle. I saw the mention on this thread about the earlier kits having the fins closer together, and have observed that the newer kits don't appear to whistle. I need to widen Madcow's slots so that the fins can actually fit in them anyway, so I'd be happy to shift the upper slots downward a bit in the process. When MC lengthened the MMT for the tailcone it probably wasn't quite enough, there's barely any MMT past the top of the upper slots, so shifting those fins back will leave a bit more room for the top CR which I'd prefer.

Made a few other mods while ordering, I prefer to go for the 'chute cannon' approach rather than separating right above/below the avbay, so I skipped the vent band and just sized the upper tube to include the vent band length (also means I can use a shorter avbay coupler since it'll be epoxied into the upper airframe, I don't need a 9" bay for my redundant electronics). I also ordered an extra coupler, and plan to cut some off the upper airframe (don't need that much space for my chute) and add that length to the lower airframe to accommodate longer motors for when I am an L3 and can stuff bigger motors in this tube.

So I'm wondering, does anyone have an X-celerator that whistles, and if so could they measure the fin gap they have? If not an X-celerator, any other examples of a 4" airframe (Frenzy or the like) with a good whistle and it's fin gap?
 
So I'm wondering, does anyone have an X-celerator that whistles, and if so could they measure the fin gap they have? If not an X-celerator, any other examples of a 4" airframe (Frenzy or the like) with a good whistle and it's fin gap?

Mine is one of the Rocketry Warehouse originals and whistles nicely. The inter fin gap is exactly 1".
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So I have one of these I'm getting ready to start working on the fin can for, made a few mods when I ordered the kit. I upped the MMT to 75mm, the fins came stock (roots for 54mm MMT), so far I'm NOT planning to trim the roots, the extra bit of 'flat' fin at the top & bottom of each fin should be covered by my fillets so I don't think I need to take any action here (and for other reasons pulling the Cp back a bit seems like a fine idea). I also had the MMT lengthened and have a TA7539PA tailcone adapter (not as pronounced of a cone since it's only 98->75, not 98->54 like pictured earlier in this thread, but will still look nice I think). This will be my first split-fin, first tailcone and first 75mm MMT (I'm still a L2 and only have 38/54mm cases so far, so it will do a lot of flying with an A5475 adapter at least to start).

But as my first split-fin, I'd really like to get this to whistle. I saw the mention on this thread about the earlier kits having the fins closer together, and have observed that the newer kits don't appear to whistle. I need to widen Madcow's slots so that the fins can actually fit in them anyway, so I'd be happy to shift the upper slots downward a bit in the process. When MC lengthened the MMT for the tailcone it probably wasn't quite enough, there's barely any MMT past the top of the upper slots, so shifting those fins back will leave a bit more room for the top CR which I'd prefer.

Made a few other mods while ordering, I prefer to go for the 'chute cannon' approach rather than separating right above/below the avbay, so I skipped the vent band and just sized the upper tube to include the vent band length (also means I can use a shorter avbay coupler since it'll be epoxied into the upper airframe, I don't need a 9" bay for my redundant electronics). I also ordered an extra coupler, and plan to cut some off the upper airframe (don't need that much space for my chute) and add that length to the lower airframe to accommodate longer motors for when I am an L3 and can stuff bigger motors in this tube.

So I'm wondering, does anyone have an X-celerator that whistles, and if so could they measure the fin gap they have? If not an X-celerator, any other examples of a 4" airframe (Frenzy or the like) with a good whistle and it's fin gap?

I've tried several different motors in mine and it whistles as much as someone with a mouthful of saltines. I don't see DavieRockets posting here much lately. Hopefully he or someone else chimes in. If not, maybe you can use the photos in post 38 of this thread for some kind of scale.

I've gotta request a build thread (or at least pics) of your build. I built mine stock and yours has a large amount of modifications which would make it interesting. If you don't want to start a separate thread, you're welcome to post them here.

One thing I'd like to note, I worked hardest on this rocket than any other in my fleet as far as finish and appearance. I really like how it turned out and I love the look. In fact, I like it so much that I'm afraid to launch the thing because I'm worried it will get scratched or dinged. Take that for whatever it's worth.

Edited: Davie, you're here! My fin gap is 1-1/2". Apparently all it takes is 1/2" to eliminate the split fin whistle.
 
I forgot to post these pics of a launch in February: K515 Skidmark. Went to 4770 feet.

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Mine is one of the Rocketry Warehouse originals and whistles nicely. The inter fin gap is exactly 1".

Excellent, thanks a bunch!

I've tried several different motors in mine and it whistles as much as someone with a mouthful of saltines.

Heh. :)

I've gotta request a build thread (or at least pics) of your build. I built mine stock and yours has a large amount of modifications which would make it interesting. If you don't want to start a separate thread, you're welcome to post them here.

One thing I'd like to note, I worked hardest on this rocket than any other in my fleet as far as finish and appearance. I really like how it turned out and I love the look. In fact, I like it so much that I'm afraid to launch the thing because I'm worried it will get scratched or dinged. Take that for whatever it's worth.

I'll see how much I come up with along the way (photos and the like), and either tack on a post or two here, or start my own thread if there's enough to say.

I totally understand you on the painting portion though (and that is a very pretty bird). Recently I've really enjoyed the colored FG RW/Madcow kits and NOT needing to paint anything. I've only finished 3 painted rockets, my L1 bird which was just a solid color (and went splat on the second flight), my Bumbl-B which had a very storied life and multiple paint jobs trying to maintain the look (after several crashes finally gave up on that one), and my L2 bird, which I've always had a more complicated color scheme intended for that rocket, but so far it's only made it to solid-black. But it had a hard landing 2 Octobers ago which led to airframe damage, and while I have the parts to repair the damaged section I need to do the spiral-filling and painting since I don't want to fly it half-painted and half-naked. :p So I've been sitting on the pieces for a long time since I haven't gotten off my rear to do the painting. And then I have a Mini-Magg that I've never finished building largely due to concerns over its appearance and not wanting to make a move I might regret (doing some unusual things with this kit as well). I can't say I'm looking forward to having to deal with another paint job, and I really don't know what I want to shoot for yet. But it'll be that much more necessary on this one, as the upper and lower airframe tubes weren't even the same type of FG (the lower section is the semi-translucent green-ish 'natural', while the upper section is a more opaque grey tube).

My fin gap is 1-1/2". Apparently all it takes is 1/2" to eliminate the split fin whistle.

I measured the between-slot distance on mine and it's more like 1.65". Seems to be growing. :) So I have a lot of slot moving to do, here's hoping it makes the difference!
 
I don't see DavieRockets posting here much lately.

Edited: Davie, you're here! My fin gap is 1-1/2". Apparently all it takes is 1/2" to eliminate the split fin whistle.

Been on a rocketry hiatus but still look at the taged threads like this one when I get a notification and also poke around every so often. Managed to go to our club launch a week ago and did four flights, even an Art Bell tribute with a saucer. Planning on going to a couple regional launches this summer with Molly.

Dave
 
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