Loki Research 2016

Danh said:

here is my 3'' rocket with aeropack tailcone on a loki 54-2000 k527....simmed to 13k+ actual altitude unknown landed in a lake icky in muskegon Mi

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here is what i flew yesterday at the launch didnt get a picture of the G-69 though

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loki H-90

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loki J-528 in a binder design bat 3531 Ft

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Dan,
That last shot you got of the J 528 LW is just fantastic...
It just looks like a ball of intense light trailing the rocket.....
Way too cool....

Teddy

Thanks ,photos were taken by buzz nau . He gets some really great shots of the rockets at our launches.

Boom. Own new loads I pawed over them all, but in the end decided a couple packs of 120 loads were the ticket for me. Many people may be going "dude, 120?" I love this case, and love flying my Optima on them for perfect bang bang bang back to back flights on an Optima. Being in "big flight time-out" at the moment, these are the perfect thing for me, and I was excited to see them come out.

So, G70 Loki Cocktail, and G94 Ice Blue-

DavidMcCann said:

G94 Ice Blue

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Is this a new propellant type?

djs said:

Is this a new propellant type?

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I don't think it's exactly new. I think it is a combination of either Loki Red or White along with Loki Blue Propellant. Looks like one grain of each.

Either way, very cool.

Donaldsrockets said:

I don't think it's exactly new. I think it is a combination of either Loki Red or White along with Loki Blue Propellant. Looks like one grain of each.

Either way, very cool.

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Looks like blue and white. Blue alone would be invisible. I'd be ok with that, but this load looks pretty sweet, so I'm in to try it.

I plan to fly the G80LW, G69SF, G70LC and G94IB in July. Wish I didn't lose my second 120 case last year lol.

DavidMcCann said:

Looks like blue and white. Blue alone would be invisible. I'd be ok with that, but this load looks pretty sweet, so I'm in to try it.

I plan to fly the G80LW, G69SF, G70LC and G94IB in July. Wish I didn't lose my second 120 case last year lol.

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From what I saw, the blue itself is nearly invisible. Scott posted a 38/120 blue firing on his Youtube channel awhile back. There appeared to be a blue flash at ignition but that was about it.

I like the idea of the Cocktail loads. If I had to guess, those are red and blue while the Blue Ice is blue and white. I think a G66 red load was also mentioned somewhere.

I might eventually have to get a Loki 38/120 motor.:wink:

More versatility compared to the AT 38/120 and HAZMAT-free shipping on the loads.

Donaldsrockets said:

From what I saw, the blue itself is nearly invisible. Scott posted a 38/120 blue firing on his Youtube channel awhile back. There appeared to be a blue flash at ignition but that was about it.

I like the idea of the Cocktail loads. If I had to guess, those are red and blue while the Blue Ice is blue and white. I think a G66 red load was also mentioned somewhere.

I might eventually have to get a Loki 38/120 motor.:wink:

More versatility compared to the AT 38/120 and HAZMAT-free shipping on the loads.

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sounds about right. The 120 is really just a fun simple case. Even the H160 is just a flash of blue and gone. But what a punch. I say call 'em Ghost propellant and run with it lol.

Wow, -four- different no-haz no-L1 loads? I definitely know what my next casing purchase has to be.

Red, white, and cocktail are no haz no cert.
the Blue is a G94, and the Spitfire is a sparkie, so no Haz, L1

pretty killer lineup for a small case, and coming in two pack reloads, a great deal.

Im pretty sure most of the 240 case is under 125 grams propellant, so those are no hazmat, no waiver (class one) loads.
(red,blue,white,spitfire,cocktail)

DavidMcCann said:

Red, white, and cocktail are no haz no cert.
the Blue is a G94, and the Spitfire is a sparkie, so no Haz, L1

pretty killer lineup for a small case, and coming in two pack reloads, a great deal.

Im pretty sure most of the 240 case is under 125 grams propellant, so those are no hazmat, no waiver (class one) loads.
(red,blue,white,spitfire,cocktail)

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Interesting. a) I didn't notice one was a sparky, and b) I can't find the L1 sparky requirements although I thought I remember reading them at some point.

NFPA 1125, there it is.

dhbarr said:

Interesting. a) I didn't notice one was a sparky, and b) I can't find the L1 sparky requirements although I thought I remember reading them at some point.

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Yea, Silly requirements, both of them, but there they are. I'd love to see them go away personally.

This is the G69 Spitfire-

Noice!

I can understand an L1 requirement for a sparky but for a G94 blue motor is a bit pointless.:wink:

I always wanted to fly the G69 Spitfire but never had a suitable area to launch a sparky from.

Busy busy busy guys....

I've got the reloads added to the website and the instructions added to the Documents page. I still need to go bach and add the instruction lnk to each reload but I'm going to wait until I the motor files get added to thrustcurve.org so I can link those pages as well. I have to get more motor information to Mark K first. However, I've had to do the work that pays the bills first. I don't want to create more work for him if I get the data wrong in rushing. Still no word on any official TMT announcement. I'm not sure whats up there.

The new loads that are marked out of stock have all been sent out to dealers or you've bought them already. Please be patient wile I make more. It's hard to make lots of loads beforehand because it's not a good idea. Just in case there's some unforeseen problem with a reload, you don't want to have a lot of product made that you can't fix and it has to go to waist. In the case of the Cocktail loads, you're talking 2 very different core sizes that are unique to these specific loads. If a core size needs to be changed then it would screw up everything already made. Same for the K-627. It's a one of a kind, so I didn't have very many ready to go in case there was an issue that required a change somewhere.

Thanks

What makes the K-627 so different? I notice it uses a different noozle, which is fine BTW. The 2.4 burn time is exciting cant wait to get one.

TA

Flew my "Strange Brew today on a Loki L1040 Red motor. OMG!!! 3" diameter and 17 pounds on the pad. 15,036 and Mach 1.29. Recovered 1.8 miles away and 30 feet up. If I would have had the rail straight up, who knows. Sigh.....

thobin said:

What makes the K-627 so different? I notice it uses a different noozle, which is fine BTW. The 2.4 burn time is exciting cant wait to get one.

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I didn't get a good look at one, but I'd guess it's like the K1127, with very different length grains than other loads, with oddball cores (compared to other 38mm loads) If it was a no-go coming back from TMT not a ton of places to cut those up and use.

Well it must be much more of a pain to produce hence the price difference form the K1127 I got to thinking it was a single use noozle at first.


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Whatever it is, I'm hoping to stick it in a 54/38 in the fall and see what it does. I don't have big enough balls for an MD.

Don’t have the waver around here for that kind of MD rocket and motor. Got a Nice 3 inch Bomb Pop from Chris that it would go nicely in however. Even that may exceed the waver only have 10k. The last 7 pound 4" 4FNC shredded on the way up with the J-1000, even at that the parts still made 6400ft well at least the altimeter did.


TA

thobin said:

Well it must be much more of a pain to produce hence the price difference form the K1127 I got to thinking it was a single use noozle at first.


TA

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Price is based on way more total impulse over the K1127.

Maybe it would work well in my Shadow Raven. It handled a Kosdon J1500 with no problem.

timbucktoo said:

Yes, both standard & tail cone.

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Is this true of the 76mm stuff too?

AdAstraPerAspera said:

Is this true of the 76mm stuff too?

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As far as I know, yes, the 76mm hardware fits both Aeropack standard retainers and tail cone retainers. I've got a tail cone retainer from ~2009 assuming they haven't made any changes, it fits great.

Loki Research said:

As far as I know, yes, the 76mm hardware fits both Aeropack standard retainers and tail cone retainers. I've got a tail cone retainer from ~2009 assuming they haven't made any changes, it fits great.

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Thanks Scott, that probably means I'll get some bigger Loki hardware this winter and a reload or two for it.

Hi Gents,

I have the testing data for the following new Loki motors:
G66 LR
G70 CT
G94 IB
H125 CT
I377 CT
K627 LR

Paul got me the loaded masses and burnout weights, hence the data I really need for motor files. I do need two pieces of data though- which respective cases do the H125 and the I377 use?

Tripoli's announcement was on the TRA forum. I realize this is not the mass system, but I assure it was posted, and I really do have the test data.

Scott has them on the Loki website already with which casing and the total N-s. The H motors are all in the 38-240 case, and the I motors are all in the 38-480 case.

markkoelsch said:

Hi Gents,

I have the testing data for the following new Loki motors:
G66 LR
G70 CT
G94 IB
H125 CT
I377 CT
K627 LR

Paul got me the loaded masses and burnout weights, hence the data I really need for motor files. I do need two pieces of data though- which respective cases do the H125 and the I377 use?

Tripoli's announcement was on the TRA forum. I realize this is not the mass system, but I assure it was posted, and I really do have the test data.

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The 38-240 and 38-480, respectively.