787-9 Dreamliner aerobatics

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Winston

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That is such a beautiful plane! I work near the former Mather AFB, which is now general aviation and air cargo. Boeing flies 787's in every now and then on test flights. I never saw one do this, though! Those new engines have a different sound, that's how I noticed the first one.
 
It still can't make up for the test pilots who did two barrel rolls on a 707 over the hydroplane races in Seattle, but still pretty cool. Any idea of what the climb angle is right after takeoff?

My office is right under the flight line to Boeing Field, so we see everything that's not commercial coming into Seattle. When Boeing is flight testing planes, we see them over us every half hour or so. That was a lot of 787s a few years ago. We also see Blue Angels, so really funny looking military things, and Air Force One when the president is in town.
 
Such a gorgeous plane. Love how clearly you can see the wing dihedral + curvature on that takeoff.
 
I've been told the takeoff pitch was 40 degrees. A normal takeoff is around 18.
 
I'm with Boatgeek, they should have rolled it. Sissies.
My father was at Boeing Field when they rolled the B-52 for the demo to the President.

M
 
The maneuvers were not that hard on the airframe or engines.You have to realize that the A/C was minus Passengers, baggage and had enough fuel to perform their routine (up coming Paris Air Show) and about 15 minutes of reserve fuel. I think airlines should offer flights with high performance maneuvers:cool: It was the 707 prototype that did the "barrel roll" over the boat races. It was test pilot Tex Johnson who was flying the A/C. He got called to the carpet for that stunt. He tried (in-vane) to explain that the barrel roll is a 1g maneuver and the A/C didn't know it was inverted:cool:
 
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A great video on how the new Boeing 737 is built.

Bob
 
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A great video on how the new Boeing 737 is built.

Bob
Cool and it led me to this. I've always really liked the lines of this plane and you don't hear nearly as much about it as the B-2 and B-52 although we should:

B-52 max payload 70,000 lb
B-1 max. payload 125,000 lb

B-52 Maximum speed: 560 kn (650 mph, 1,047 km/h)
B-1 Maximum speed:
At altitude: Mach 1.25 (721 kn or 830 mph or 1,335 km/h) at 50,000 ft or 15,000 m altitude
At low level: Mach 0.92 (700 mph or 1,100 km/h) at 200–500 ft or 61–152 m altitude

B-52 Combat radius: 3,890 nmi (4,480 mi, 7,210 km)
B-1 Combat radius: 2,993 nmi (3,444 mi; 5,543 km)

[video=youtube;c1Nkz5mR43M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Nkz5mR43M[/video]
 
We have several of those videos for different airplane models.

[video=youtube;ghAyYTUxHtg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghAyYTUxHtg[/video]

[video=youtube;rKQQHfquBa8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQQHfquBa8[/video]


[YOUTUBE]Ssis6Csg3kA[/YOUTUBE]

A great video on how the new Boeing 737 is built.

Bob
 
The maneuvers were not that hard on the airframe or engines.You have to realize that the A/C was minus Passengers, baggage and had enough fuel to perform their routine (up coming Paris Air Show) and about 15 minutes of reserve fuel. I think airlines should offer flights with high performance maneuvers:cool: It was the 707 prototype that did the "barrel roll" over the boat races. It was test pilot Tex Johnson who was flying the A/C. He got called to the carpet for that stunt. He tried (in-vane) to explain that the barrel roll is a 1g maneuver and the A/C didn't know it was inverted:cool:
Here's a great video demonstrating that! "The hard part was pouring tea backhanded..."
[video=youtube;pMWxuKcD6vE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMWxuKcD6vE[/video]
 
I had the pleasure of seeing Bob Hoover fly from the 60's through the 80's. Read his book "Forever Flying". His energy management manuver he perfected originally in a P-38!
Tex Johnston just about caused a mass heart attack among the Boeing execs when he pulled that barrel-roll in the Dash 80. Kurt
 
787 Dreamliner to me is the best looking airliner built so far. That wing is awesome from any angle.
 
As much as I hate what the 787 has done to the company (we may never really make money on it) and all the extra "help" we've gotten in Renton so that we don't make the same stupid program management mistakes they made on the 787 program (which we wouldn't have done anyway), the airplane itself, especially the -9, is gorgeous and is a technical masterpiece in many ways. Neat video for sure.

As for the PTQs - there are lots of them out there - don't know how many are available to the public. They are always fun to watch.

The first 737 MAX is being built....so our turn will come soon - we should be well into flight test a year from now so maybe a MAX will turn up at Farnborough in 2016.
 
787 Dreamliner to me is the best looking airliner built so far. That wing is awesome from any angle.
Very cool looking inside, too.

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Variable color and brightness RGB LED lighting for the passenger area.

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The variable LED lighting has made it down to the latest 737s as well, and really make a difference in the cabin environment. It's really nice that they can bring the lights up slowly after a redeye instead of turning the searchlights on immediately.
 
[video=youtube;c1Nkz5mR43M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Nkz5mR43M[/video]

I remember how much grief this aircraft got back in the day. It pissed me off as a Bone guy and most of it was typical misinformed bullshit.

Warms my heart to see it getting the recognition it deserves.

FC
 
Actually I flew to this country in a A380. It's the first time I ever been in a plane like that (before it was all 737 or 747). The difference is huge. For one thing A380 has a lot of room for economy. That and the plane itself just feels stable, you could practically not know the plane has taken off.

Hopefully the new 787 is guaranteed to be free of snakes...
 
I remember how much grief this aircraft got back in the day. It pissed me off as a Bone guy and most of it was typical misinformed bullshit.

Warms my heart to see it getting the recognition it deserves.

FC

You ain't kidding. I have always loved the B1, seeing them fly in and around Dyess is breath taking. Truly one of the worlds most incredible machines.
 
As much as I hate what the 787 has done to the company (we may never really make money on it) and all the extra "help" we've gotten in Renton so that we don't make the same stupid program management mistakes they made on the 787 program (which we wouldn't have done anyway), the airplane itself, especially the -9, is gorgeous and is a technical masterpiece in many ways. Neat video for sure.
Well, hopefully, the advanced tech of the plane and the many lessons probably learned in designing and fielding it might turn out to be a good investment in the long run, a bit like the 747 program that nearly bankrupted Boeing:

Jumbo - The Plane that Changed the World

[video=youtube;3i0BVOK-Qnc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0BVOK-Qnc[/video]
 
The variable LED lighting has made it down to the latest 737s as well, and really make a difference in the cabin environment. It's really nice that they can bring the lights up slowly after a redeye instead of turning the searchlights on immediately.

I just flew a 787 from Narita to LA, and I have to say, the single most appreciated feature is the fact that the windows are electrically dimming windows. No longer you have to have that one asshole who lifts the shade when everyone else is sleeping. The crew locks them out during "sleep time".
 
I got to see Bob fly the Aero Commander at Galesburg, IL. Got to meet him after he landed. Saw the F-22 Raptor fly at the Rockford Air Fest June 6, and the pilot dedicated a maneuver to Bob. Bob was one of the very best pilots ever, yet he never achieved much public fame.
 
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