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Definately lost. The last one was my Groove Tube with an altimeter and 54/1706 case :mad: At least with a lawn dart you can usually recover *something*.
 
lost is the worst ... i can take a crash 'cause then i can try to figure out what happened so it doesn't happen again. plus if it's spectacular, or unique in some way, it has entertainment value. but just plain losing it, not knowing where it went or what happened, is annoying!
 
I really hate it when they burn up on reentry.

:D

Mario

Very well played, sir, very well played! :D

In a tree or otherwise unrecoverable, but you can see it.

Or, greatly anticipating a monthly launch but not being able to fly. :cry:
 
I'll turn this around and say that the joy of a successful first launch is actually eclipsed by the feeling you get when you lose a rocket...resign yourself to that loss...and then have it given back to you intact the next day by someone who found it!! :D:D:D

Happened @ Midwest Power on Sat w/my Little Dog DD on an I-285R. It was a perfect day...tons of space, but I just lost it at apogee. MAYBE the main deployed then (instead of 500'), but I had a good sheer pin in..who knows.

Someone else said they saw it & I followed their lead, but didn't see it, and I think that might have been the problem, that THEY were mistaken. They said it drifted far, I looked for a long time (found someones magenta Thunderbolt 38 lawn-dart remains & turned them in), suffered from those panging lost-rocket feelings and went to the hotel (after asking around if anyone found it)

Next day, one of the launch-officials (Scott Goebel?...can't recall) mentioned to another about bringing out the found rockets from Sat., and my heart leapt. "Was there a PR Little Dog DD?"..."yeah...what color"..."unpainted"..."I think we got it". Sure'nuff, they did...PERFECT condition.

:surprised::D:surprised::D

What a way to start the 2nd day. I then got 100% on my written level 2 test & then certed on a J350W (w/my Thor...not the LD). If I hadn't had gotten the Little Dog back, I know my black mood would have screwed something up on that.

Thanks to whoever found it. If you're reading this, please let me know who you are & where you found it.
 
A lawndart makes me feel the worst. I can accept losing rockets any other way, but a lawndart causes me concern for the safety of people at the launch.

Dave

Yes, I agree.

Lawndart is the worst as it poses the most risk to spectators.

Can't fix spectators with epoxy.
 
What makes me feel bad is going out to fly, and EVERYTHING I put up goes up fine(the easy part) and on landing breaks a fin off. I do everything I can do to prevent it, fillets and stuff,(TTW) takes a bad bounce and breaks a fin.
AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!
 
What makes me feel bad is going out to fly, and EVERYTHING I put up goes up fine(the easy part) and on landing breaks a fin off. I do everything I can do to prevent it, fillets and stuff,(TTW) takes a bad bounce and breaks a fin.
AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!

Have you tried a bigger chute?
 
I selected Lost because if it lawndarts, CATOs, or most other things, some parts can be recovered. If it gets hung in a tree, 5 min. and a chainsaw will fix that. When you have a 5k HPR rocket in a tree, there is never a tree worth that much :p

Ben
 
I voted "Lost," as this happened to two models I had very high value (personally) for. Pics of those models (in their very last flight) below. The
first is my Maxi-AlphaX4 that was boosted using two D12-7's & two E9-6's,
disappeared somewhere in the McGregor, TX area. Couldn't find any trace
of it no matter how long/hard I looked.

Next picture is that of my AstroCam/Saturn - IV clustered/multistage model
that used a D12-0 & three C6-0's (first stage) and a D12-7 & three C6-7's
in the upperstage. Successfully launched at JSC a few years ago, all eight
engines ignited but the second stage went so high up that we never could
see it again (but we DID hear the four ejection charges of the second stage
go off).

Note: Liftoff pic of Maxi-AlphaX4 taken by Tim Sapp of DARS; the inflight pics
of the AstroCam/Saturn - IV taken by Warren Benson of NHRC.

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I think it must be losing someone else'srocket.
Last time out I crossed the lines on the launchpad and fired another chap's C altitude record attempt, altimemer and all. because he wasn't expecting it to go he lost sight of it. Then I fired mine.
To add insult to injury, he then found my rocket during a fruitless search for his own. He's still talking to me. Sorry, Ady.
I had my first CATO that day when an F36 blew a nozzle. My paper V2 made about 50' before pranging itself, but I can't be that upset- it was impressive in its way. Thrust, just not much, like an old Nazi newsreel.
 
I voted for "lost",as least with a crash you might recover some parts to use in other rockets. Motor casings,altimeter's,chutes,etc,etc.
 
I'd say lost is the worst.At least on a cato or lawn dart theres a chance to recover at least some parts.As far as unrecoverable,i had one hang in a tree for nearly two years,eventually it came down,the nose cone and fin can were salvageable.
 
Have you tried a bigger chute?

I don't mind a walk to retrieve, so I do use a larger chute.
We fly on a sod farm.
There are sod pieces removed (I assume , to check them)
The ground there is pretty hard. I can't tell you how many times I've landed in the one hard packed spot in 100 or so acres of sod.
It's like the rocket is guided to it!!
Mark T
 
I voted for lost because I've only lost two rockets and two that were unrecoverable. I haven't lost a rocket in any of the other ways you've mentioned. Both the unrecoveable were scratch built or a free kit someone gave me. The lost ones were also a scratch built and my very first Kraken. Losing the Kraken definately put lost at the top.
 
In the overall sense, all other things being equal, it is the “lost” models that hurts the worst. Because a lost model means zero things to salvage, no nose cone, no chute, no reloadable casings (if applicable), and so forth.

Although this is void when it involves a contest model that I would like to see keep going and going, sometimes it is a very GOOD feeling to watch a model flying off in a nice big thermal (if that flight does not have to be returned).

Now, a given specific model it could be worse if it was something like a crash, if it was some new model being tested out. Like some of my shuttle boilerplate test flights that went unstable or had some other disasters arise from design issues, requiring some or a lot of going back to the drawing board.

Or, the frustration of making a big mistake, like having an R/C Rocket Glider crash because the on-off switch was in the “off” position.

But even with those disasters..... there were some parts to salvage (a 1/72 orbiter I built in 1984 was involved with several boilerplate crashes. But it kept on flying thru various ET/SRB boilerplate upgrades in the on-off-on-off cycles of the shuttle model project - finally being perfected in 1998).

I have had at least four R/C Rocket Gliders become lost, one due to the power going out in the middle of the glide, and just flying away free-flight in a thermal. The other three, on windy days and/or spotty skies when the models got away from me and out of sight. I had a close call with my Sunguidance rocket once at NARAM-47. it landed 39 feet up in a tree, almost unrecoverable. How do I know it was exactly 39 feet up a tree? Because Launch Crue had a 40-foot tall retrieval pole which had one foot to spare to reach it ..... :)

- George Gassaway
 
I'll add to the "Lost" column. I very nearly lost my MMX Der Red Max - searching on the ground - and had that empty stomach feeling going on.
 
Worse... When you lose a rocket that you've had for years, and although it's now a different color, some (non) club member is flying it at the next launch...

I didn't vote.


EDIT: For the record... this happened a long time ago... I've actually only lost one rocket in the last twenty or so years....
 
I voted for 'Unrecoverable' because if I lose a rocket, I say to myself 'ah, well, I lost it, so what?' but when I see it but I just can't reach it or can't recover it, I get so irritated that I wish to commit a suicide! In that case I say to myself 'grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr if only the rocket had 2 inches to the left! Then I could have been able to get it, but now...'
 
I had to go with "unrecoverable" too, because it truly sucks to be able to see it up there in the tree, and there isn't a thing you can do about it. :mad:

At least with a total loss, you can envision it being found by some other flyer or even a local kid, and perhaps flying again. The unrecoverables just hang there mocking you until they slowly weather away to useless mush. :(
 
I voted Lost. I was torn between lost and lawndart. I've lawndarted two rockets and lost two. The lawndarts sucked, no doubt. But, the losses were worse. One drifted off to no-wheresville way into a deep tree line....it wasn't ever going to be found. But. the other everybody clearly saw it come down, yet after hours of searching it was never found. As others in the same situation stated it's partly the closure issue. But, bigger - for me - was financial. The lawndarts cost me the rocket and in one instance an altimeter. But I was able to salvage everything else out of them - chutes, motor casing, etc. With a lost rocket you lose everything! And both of my loses flew with borrowed casings. So, I HAD to replace the casing to return it to the owner (along with the other items I lost. An altimeter was in one those rockets as well).
 
For me it would be a tie between lost and unrecoverable. More so if there was an RMS casing in it.

I've got a PML Explorer along with a 29/240 casing buried somewhere. Came in ballistic from 2,500+ into weeds almost up to my chest and I'm just over six feet so those are some pretty dang tall weeds:mad:

I've also got a 29/40-120 out in my home field somewhere after it was ejected from my G-Force. Luckily there was enough pressure to deploy the chute and the rocket landed safely, sans motor casing!!!:rolleyes:
 
I've got a PML Explorer along with a 29/240 casing buried somewhere. Came in ballistic from 2,500+ into weeds

There wasn't much chance of you finding that one, Donald. I don't anyone had perfect bead on where it impacted. And with those weeds, it was going to be nearly impossible especially since there might not be any part of the rocket actually sticking above the ground. You would've had mow that entire field to have a fighting chance to find it.
 
There wasn't much chance of you finding that one, Donald. I don't anyone had perfect bead on where it impacted. And with those weeds, it was going to be nearly impossible especially since there might not be any part of the rocket actually sticking above the ground. You would've had mow that entire field to have a fighting chance to find it.

Well, if it does get mowed, lets see, G10 fins, quantum tubing and an aluminum motor casing. Yeah, that'll make a mess of any lawnmower blades.;)

I pity the person whoever runs it over if/when that happens.

However, I felt terrible when you lost your first Thor. I was so-hoping you would find it.:(
 
However, I felt terrible when you lost your first Thor. I was so-hoping you would find it.:(

I'm still baffled that we couldn't find it despite all that effort. The only conclusion is that it unluckily dropped perfectly into one of those canals and sunk 'cause I combed the length of those canals the next day and didn't see a thing.
 
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