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afadeev said:
Common folks, everyone knows Russians have a strong culinary preference for dogs and cats, not squirrels (that's a British cuisine thing) !

Thus the documented effort (article below) - adopt Ukrainian pets == starve the Russians!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/fears-russian-soldiers-eating-dogs-26565407
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I'm no fan of the Russians, but the trope of "[Enemy] is so depraved they eat pets!" is pretty much pervasive in any war in the last few hundred years. While I approve of pet adoptions, and I 100% believe that the pets were at risk due to being in a war zone, I think that starvation, dehydration, disease, and injury are far more likely causes of death than being eaten.
 
Not sure I should admit it, but I would kind of like to try squirrel someday. I had a roommate in college who was raised in a hunting family, and he said it’s actually really good. And when I was researching buying a 22 rifle recently, there were tons of comments about how a 22 is good for small game like rabbits and squirrels, so I don’t think it’s that uncommon for people to eat them. I’m kind of an adventurous eater, so I’ll try almost anything, and if someone were roasting up a mess o’ squirrels and offered me one, I’d definitely take a bite.
 
ThirstyBarbarian said:
Not sure I should admit it, but I would kind of like to try squirrel someday. I had a roommate in college who was raised in a hunting family, and he said it’s actually really good. And when I was researching buying a 22 rifle recently, there were tons of comments about how a 22 is good for small game like rabbits and squirrels, so I don’t think it’s that uncommon for people to eat them. I’m kind of an adventurous eater, so I’ll try almost anything, and if someone were roasting up a mess o’ squirrels and offered me one, I’d definitely take a bite.
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Tastes like chicken.....best with dumplings....
 
I dated a girl in high school whose brothers and dad hunted. I have had squirrel, rabbit, duck, pheasant, deer, grouse and some things I don't remember. If it was a game animal I have had it. Later in life when I hunted I have had Elk and Antelope.. If you shoot it you have to eat it. Maybe the Russians will start eating each other.
 
Well this youtuber has been going through all countries alphabetically for the last 5 years or so and just got to Ukraine.



He also did one on Russia before the war started.
 
gdjsky01 said:
What's interesting (if a war killing 1000s of humans can be interesting) is, what role does the main battle tank have in modern warfare? I see opinions that vary widely.
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The main battle tank is a key element in modern combined arms warfare and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. Drones and modern anti-tank weapons have lessened it, but it is still essential to fast protected movement, firing on the move, and directing heavy fire at both moving and still targets that are hardened.

Our M1 tanks have never been destroyed by enemy fire. Of the nine Abrams tanks destroyed in combat, seven were destroyed by friendly fire, and two were intentionally destroyed to prevent capture by the Iraqi Army. The problem with tanks is they have to be used as intended and as a part of a combined arms force.
 
cwbullet said:
The main battle tank is a key element in modern combined arms warfare and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. Drones and modern anti-tank weapons have lessened it, but it is still essential to fast protected movement, firing on the move, and directing heavy fire at both moving and still targets that are hardened.

Our M1 tanks have never been destroyed by enemy fire. Of the nine Abrams tanks destroyed in combat, seven were destroyed by friendly fire, and two were intentionally destroyed to prevent capture by the Iraqi Army. The problem with tanks is they have to be used as intended and as a part of a combined arms force.
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Yup.

Air superiority helps also with a tanks service life.
 
mach7 said:
Yup.

Air superiority helps also with a tanks service life.
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No doubt. Most ground pounders and tankers are also sad to see the A-10 go. If you attain air superiority, which the A-10 requires, the M1 combined with the A-10 makes enemy tanks short in order to destroy.
 
cwbullet said:
The main battle tank is a key element in modern combined arms warfare and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. Drones and modern anti-tank weapons have lessened it, but it is still essential to fast protected movement, firing on the move, and directing heavy fire at both moving and still targets that are hardened.
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I don't have to tell you this, but pointing out for the record that it takes an awful lot of training to make combined arms work. Not to mention damping down most inter-service rivalries to a friendly level. Neither of those conditions are likely in a kleptocratic state.
 
boatgeek said:
I don't have to tell you this, but pointing out for the record that it takes an awful lot of training to make combined arms work. Not to mention damping down most inter-service rivalries to a friendly level. Neither of those conditions are likely in a kleptocratic state.
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Very true. They are finally fixing the medical side of this with DHA. It will take years, but there will be sort of one medical “corp”. My dad suggest a combined medical service during Vietnam. They would not listen to a lowly Major. Ir has been suggested at every conference in the last 20 years. They finally had congress mandate it.
 
cwbullet said:
No doubt. Most ground pounders and tankers are also sad to see the A-10 go. If you attain air superiority, which the A-10 requires, the M1 combined with the A-10 makes enemy tanks short in order to destroy.
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My A-10 pilot friend thinks the A-10 just isn't survivable, without complete air superiority, which is unlikely. So practically, it's gotta go.

Too bad, it's a neat machine.
 
cls said:
My A-10 pilot friend thinks the A-10 just isn't survivable, without complete air superiority, which is unlikely. So practically, it's gotta go.

Too bad, it's a neat machine.
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That is unfortunate since we spent billion upgrading them and they are the most survivable air craft after taking a hit from the ground.

We almost always have air superiority and I do not see that changing so this is short sighted.
 
I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the LOL pics thread. Short backstory is that the pro-Russian government in Georgia (central Asia) passed or nearly passed a law against "foreign agents", in effect NGOs. Russia has used similar laws to quell dissent. Popular protests forced the Georgian government to repeal or drop the law. Russian government in Crimea is unhappy and makes explicit threats...
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Oh, that hurt.
 
Yep. And in addition to the 250,000 dead or wounded, it’s also resulted in the loss of thousands of tanks, armored vehicles, many aircraft, and multiple ships, plus the depletion of ammunition and supplies, the contraction of the economy, and the near collapse of the Russian military.

I’m not sure they should be pointing to Ukraine to intimidate Georgia or any other of the non-ethnic Russian regions within Russia. Those regions might conclude that Russia has been weakened enough, this is their best chance to break free.
 
cwbullet said:
That is unfortunate since we spent billion upgrading them and they are the most survivable air craft after taking a hit from the ground.

We almost always have air superiority and I do not see that changing so this is short sighted.
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I think you have hit the crux of the argument. Also, interservice bs. And $congress$
 
So, Air Superiority is VERY important, but there are different levels of battlefield threats. The A-10
is probably survivable in many threat environments while not in others.

We have them, its a tool for US military leaders use when appropriate. However it's days in the US Air Force
are most likely winding down.
 

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