Animal Motor Works

[Mel Cagnon]

Thank you very much for having me on board!
Rocketery is a new world for me. I am Mélanie from Ignitionconcept in Portugal. We have been helping PT Space with the event organization of EUROC - European Rocketery Challenge for the 2nd year already. We are helping the teams to source their motors.

This said, I've been trying to reach out to Animal motor works for a year now and it seems impossible. We had few problems with shipment last year and we have missing part but we were wondering if anybody else have experienced problems with them about orders in the past?

Thank you

 

[JohnCoker]

Welcome!

AMW has been defunct for a while now. Some of their propellant formulations are available through CTI for their cases.

 

[dhbarr]

Do you mean AMWPROX the vendor, or are you looking for actual AMW propellant?

 

[0011001100]

Gloria and Robert are still in the business as a vendor and also as making propellant for university teams.
Here is their website: https://dehate.com/cart/
And the phone number they list: 603-566-2904
I know that the team I am on has had no trouble contacting them in recent times though we also have Robert's personal number (which I will not give out) and have contacted them on a weekend mid launch for assistance before.

 

[Mel Cagnon]

Thank you all. I also do have Robert's personal number but have had some difficulties to reach out. I'll try again.

Thank you all.

 

[Mel Cagnon]

The vendor. But I'll try to reach over the phone again. Thank you.

 

[0011001100]

They also travel to launches with their trailer and thus sometimes can be hard to reach while they are at a launch or traveling between launching. The best time to contact is generally mid-week and also check their calendar to see when they are at launches.

 

[Glorious]

Thank you very much for having me on board!
Rocketery is a new world for me. I am Mélanie from Ignitionconcept in Portugal. We have been helping PT Space with the event organization of EUROC - European Rocketery Challenge for the 2nd year already. We are helping the teams to source their motors.

This said, I've been trying to reach out to Animal motor works for a year now and it seems impossible. We had few problems with shipment last year and we have missing part but we were wondering if anybody else have experienced problems with them about orders in the past?

Thank you

Mel,
Hi, This is Gloria from AMW.
I am so sorry you have have difficulty contacting us.
Please reach out to me personally.
I will be sure this matter is taken care of immediately.
Thank You for bringing this to our attention.
Robert and Gloria
603-566-2904
[email protected]

 

[JohnCoker]

Mel,
Hi, This is Gloria from AMW...

Very glad to hear that AMW is still being supported.

 

[cerving]

Did AMW's domain get jacked? I tried amwprox.com, which has always worked... and now it's a "medication" site.

 

[heada]

https://dehate.com/cart/
I think they let the old domain go.

Edit: note on the page explains there was SSL issues.

 

[cerving]

Yeah, I saw that... not an SSL issue IMHO.

 

[heada]

Couldda been issues with a self-signed cert and a shopping cart applet.

Now that a squatter has taken it over, gonna be hard to get it back

 

[cerving]

Couldda been issues with a self-signed cert and a shopping cart applet.

Now that a squatter has taken it over, gonna be hard to get it back

Once upon a time in a more civilized world, back when there was only one Internet registrar, if somebody jacked your domain you could get it back pretty easily by showing previous ownership and an established trade identity. Now it's pretty much impossible to get your domain back if you let it go... unless you pay them tons of money.

 

[ep29030]

You know, might not be a bad idea to have a non-reply Forum where vendors submit their contact information (phone, email, website, etc). Just gives us a trusted place to start when we want to contact them, esp. if they do not have a public website.

 

[cerving]

You know, might not be a bad idea to have a non-reply Forum where vendors submit their contact information (phone, email, website, etc). Just gives us a trusted place to start when we want to contact them, esp. if they do not have a public website.

I think that's the intent of the Sponsor Directory... but it has to be kept up, of course.

https://www.rocketryforum.com/forums/rocketry-forum-sponsor-directory.197/

 

[crossfire]

Their site still works for me. I just went to their site a few minutes ago.

 

[user 35280]

AMW site works for me too.

 

[hball55]

Neither their site nor their email works for me, tried this morning. Gloria, Robert, please post newest contact info.

 

[tim cubbedge]

Neither their site nor their email works for me, tried this morning. Gloria, Robert, please post newest contact info.

This works for me
https://amwprox.com/

 

[tim cubbedge]

Gloria's email:

Mel,
Hi, This is Gloria from AMW.
I am so sorry you have have difficulty contacting us.
Please reach out to me personally.
I will be sure this matter is taken care of immediately.
Thank You for bringing this to our attention.
Robert and Gloria
603-566-2904
[email protected]

 

[hball55]

Thanks Tim, I just saved and bookmarked it. Funny thing, it’s the very same link I had bookmarked but didn’t work. Go figure. I was even using the same email I had previously received from Gloria and hit reply but it didn’t even work. Must be something on my end.

 

[tim cubbedge]

Check the http/ on your old link. The one I posted uses https/. The other one takes me to a pharmaceutical site.

 

[Tractionengines]

As a business it used to be you could get a few domains and cover most of the ways your customers would try to get ahold of you. Names separated by dashes, Names separated by underscores, Names all run together, etc. and redirect all the "likly" sites to your real site. Now that there is HTTP vs HTTPS, and add all the new things that can replace .com at the end and its a small fortune; just to redirect people to your real site. (Plus all the maintenance and not missing a payment. Else someone jumps on your expired domain only to offer to "sell" it back to you.) Only BIG companies can still do this, with full IT departments, and deep pockets.
So searching for and asking around for the "real" site for a small company, is becoming more necessary. Its not the companies fault. Its just expansion of options and costs are too big now.

 

[JohnCoker]

So searching for and asking around for the "real" site for a small company, is becoming more necessary. Its not the companies fault. Its just expansion of options and costs are too big now.

I don't think it's necessary to register multiple domains any longer, but you do have to put some effort into SEO and other basics so that your site can be found. I always type names into the address bar these days, rather than using bookmarks. For example, AMW can easily have their domain "back" by putting some relevant content on the landing page and doing basic SEO. (Right now it's just an image.)

 

[dpower]

These days, any site that isn’t “https” should be considered suspect. Even our club website is secure.

https://www.wooshrocketry.org/

 

[caveduck]

http-only sites indicate a significantly higher chance of malware/phishing these days. Any responsible party should indeed be using https and a redirect so that addressing the domain with http will flip over to the https URL. Certificate problems are pretty common - there are several things that can go wrong.

 

[cwbullet]

These days, any site that isn’t “https” should be considered suspect. Even our club website is secure.

https://www.wooshrocketry.org/

I would argue that should read: "any site that takes payments and doe snot https". HTTPS costs money and not all sites need it.

 

[caveduck]

Every site should use https for multiple reasons:

• Protection against man-in-the-middle attacks and impersonations
• Any kind of login system (not just e-commerce) is insecure over http
• http sites are down-ranked in search results
• privacy - your users are much more exposed to tracking mechanisms
• people trying to access your site from a security oriented corp environment may get blocked by outbound-deny policies on http 80

 

[John Kemker]

Did they drop the Fiberglass Der Red Max? I was getting ready to pull the trigger on one of those!