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Microsoft Windows, I do *NOT* want to wake up to this!
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Everybody didn't get this cool pic this am?! 
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Ubuntu Linux - You'll never go back
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At least you didn't get this....this is a real error message that popped up on a computer at work (I suspect it was meant as a place holder error message that never got finished before Windows was released....).
Just did a little Googling, it looks like that's exactly what the error is supposed to say. Very sloppy programming in my opinion......
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...happened/be12b76d-af02-46a1-a00c-4e4af0c29588
Just did a little Googling, it looks like that's exactly what the error is supposed to say. Very sloppy programming in my opinion......
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...happened/be12b76d-af02-46a1-a00c-4e4af0c29588
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Windows 10 SUX! Bring back Windows 7!
Ain't gonna happen.
They already have the subscription train assembled and most passengers are on-board.
Windows 7 is a very real and viable escape route from that eventuality.
It's only a matter of time....
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Yeah, I know. Win 7 was the last good OS. Maybe it's time to look at Linux or <gulp> Apple.
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I'll say it again - Ubuntu Linux - It's free, clean, streamlined, continually updated, fast as hell, you never have to worry about a virus, and you don't wake up to stupid pictures on your screen.
You can use it out of the box, or learn more about it and it is twice as powerful as windows.
It is a tool, not a "Yay we're Microsoft, look at us" platform.
You can use it out of the box, or learn more about it and it is twice as powerful as windows.
It is a tool, not a "Yay we're Microsoft, look at us" platform.
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My laptop that I used for rocketry, Lenovo Thinkpad running XP finally died, well XP did. Only wanted to start in safe mode and now not even that. The Linux option has me intrigued…
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https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop
Simple as that
Simple as that
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I thought M$ now wants to be your friend, your assistant, your life partner..
I have tried multiple variants of Linux, including Ubuntu.
As long as it works as the installer implements it you're fine. but as soon as you need to say change an adapter you need a linux engineer to untangle the underlying Unix web. It still isn't ready for the average user. If you like fiddling around under the hood and can tolerate that as a necessity for some things then you'll probably be fine with it.
I think Windows is not perfect but is the lesser of three or so evils.
Just my opinion for what it's worth.
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I'm running "Windows Paleolithic" on a HamStar Whirly Wheel X-10000 computer.
My internet connection is two soup cans and a piece of string.
My internet connection is two soup cans and a piece of string.
I know it's not wireless, but it's better than the old smoke signal connection.
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I agree with the comments made about Linux. It's a great alternative to Windows and is what I use at home (Zorin OS...which is based upon Ubuntu...which is built on Debian ). It does indeed do nearly everything that I can do with Windows (except run my tax software...I have to run that on a virtual Windows machine inside Linux).
But I also agree that it does take more tinkering. I work in IT so that's not a problem, but it surely is for the everyday layman. It's continuing to improve however, and is a lot easier to install and get up and running than it was in years past.
). It does indeed do nearly everything that I can do with Windows (except run my tax software...I have to run that on a virtual Windows machine inside Linux). But I also agree that it does take more tinkering. I work in IT so that's not a problem, but it surely is for the everyday layman. It's continuing to improve however, and is a lot easier to install and get up and running than it was in years past.
I've used Ubuntu off and on for years and always enjoyed it. But it absolutely takes tinkering from time to time (more so than the traditional alternatives) and it's just not worth it to me most of the time. And definitely not something I'd recommend to a user that doesn't feel comfortable opening the hood from time to time as needed.
Since I am planning to install Linux on an old machine for use in my workshop (for programming model trains and possibly running a 3D printer - someday) can you elaborate on what kind of tinkering might be required "under the hood"? I am/was an electrical engineer, so tinkering at most levels doesn't worry me, but I'm curious what it might entail, what learning curves I might face, and how time consuming they might be.
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If you have standard "stuff" (video card, network card, drive controller, etc.) then it'll work out of the box with most standard modern distros of Linux (Mint, Ubuntu, CentOS(r.i.p) etc.) If you have a funky, off-brand SAS RAID controller that was given to you from 2005 that you think might work.....it might if you're willing to work for it. If you have bleeding edge hardware (brand-new 2.5G network card that's been on the market a week) you may have to manually install drivers but a quick Google search normally finds a fix. If you're wanting to get a DOS program written in 1987 working in a virtual environment with Linux being the host OS, you can do that too if again you do a Google search and follow the dozen how-tos that are out there. If you heard about Gentoo and want to compile and build everything from source code, its possible and you'll learn ALOT but you'll be spending the next month learning before you have a working system.
Anything you want to do, someone else has already done it and written a how-to that you have to follow. Just have to decide how much your time and effort is worth.
Thanks., I'm not expecting to do anything exotic, bleeding edge, ancient, or rare so that helps. Searching for the occasional driver seems pretty normal even for Windows. Especially for those of us who were using Windows ten or twenty years ago.
In my experience was that the need to tinker came when doing things like swapping adapters like video or network, adding additional drives or other things that changed from what the config looked like at initial install.
Usually, especially with later releases of Ubuntu, if it installed correctly and all worked, it was pretty stable and robust.
The challenge came when I wanted to make changes after that.
My last go-round with it was ~2 years ago so it may have improved since then.
For me that was just a PITA that I didn't need at home.
Usually, especially with later releases of Ubuntu, if it installed correctly and all worked, it was pretty stable and robust.
The challenge came when I wanted to make changes after that.
My last go-round with it was ~2 years ago so it may have improved since then.
For me that was just a PITA that I didn't need at home.
Ok, I was hoping to implement a DOS command interpreter but I need a shell that has all the DOS 6.2 Intrinsic commands supported so that I truly have a seamless DOS environment.
Does that work?
Just kidding, I agree with your post. You can do most of what you want with the commensurate amount of effort.
What if I want to run Bob in Wine on Ubuntu?
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DOSBox. I know it has a fully implemented MS-DOS 5 shell and I think it has a 6.2 as well. I think WINE could work too. You could also fireup ProxMox and install a full copy of MS-DOS 6.22 and then it isn't an emulation or a re-implementation but a true MS-DOS 6.22 shell.Ok, I was hoping to implement a DOS command interpreter but I need a shell that has all the DOS 6.2 Intrinsic commands supported so that I truly have a seamless DOS environment.
Does that work?
Just kidding, I agree with your post. You can do most of what you want with the commensurate amount of effort.
1000 ways to skin a cat when it comes to Linux.
heada
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I'll beat you about the head with a clue-by-four. MS BOB was the 3rd worst thing ever inflicted upon us by MS. Clippy and Windows ME are worse.
Yeah that 1000 ways contributes to the challenge IMO (obviously not humble).
The problem is that when there are so many ways it is a guess which one will be supported with the subsequent implementations/releases. But Windows shares that problem. Gotta keep those libraries current and use an up-to-date IDE.
If I wanted to just install a full copy of DOS I'd just run a VMware workstation instance.
Tink Tink Tink...
I think ME is a strong contender for the worst implementation of windows ever. Maybe Vista is a rival.
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C'mon, dammit, we are ROCKET SCIENTISTS for Christ's sake
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