Scott_650
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It was discussed on the Apogee website, here’s a link: https://www.apogeerockets.com/blog/LatestNews/What-Are-We-Working-On-Today
What new things does the hobby want to see?
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I'd like 90% of the rocketeers to stop being sooo cheap.. some will buy something to save a nickel all while the place selling the item thats more expensive end up out of business.. there is major financial support/revenue issues...and like I said to a vendor last night on the phone, and I will quote. "I buy from you to keep you in business"
God help us all if these vendors don't make money..
So let's save 7 cents on a thrust ring..
God help us all if these vendors don't make money..
So let's save 7 cents on a thrust ring..
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Several of us use custom AT C3.4 motors in our scale altitude models for FAI competition. With a burn time of about 3 seconds they tend to transmit a great deal of heat to the airframe through the engine casing. A 10-second burn would require a remarkably robust model to withstand the heat generated.
I'd like to see older or even current kits produced as upscales. Give me a 4 inch alien space probe or a BT60 based Falcon Commander.
Why on earth is the new Orange Bullet not offered in a size that you might be able to find and fly a second time. How about a BT60 version of the new Star Hopper. No one is getting my money for a 6 or 7 inch long kit. Yes I can build these myself but I'd buy a kit if it was offered.
Why on earth is the new Orange Bullet not offered in a size that you might be able to find and fly a second time. How about a BT60 version of the new Star Hopper. No one is getting my money for a 6 or 7 inch long kit. Yes I can build these myself but I'd buy a kit if it was offered.
Very interesting. I really didn't give it much thought. A 3 sec BP burn sounds intriguing.
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38mm and 54mm dual-thrust motors would be nice. CTI has the K590 54/6G and L640 54/6XL, but some I's, J's, and smaller K's would be just the ticket for some nice MD flights.
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There are options if you’d like to minimize components made in China - ASP, Rocketarium, LOC, North Coast Rocketry, SBR/Fusion Rockets, FlisKits, Squirrel Works, Mach1, Madcow, Discount Rocketry, Balsa Machining...they all produce LPR and MPR kits.
We - the enthusiasts who frequent forums and such - really aren’t the primary market for Estes so price point matters more for them than the smaller “specialty” kit producers. But it wouldn’t be a bad thing to see kits from Estes with a “Made in USA” label.
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So, this is going to be somewhat off the wall but stems heavily from having a 3 and a half year old son. I'd love to see some good storytelling to go with kits. Think how toys like Transformers or Lego involve rich character development with TV shows, movies, comics, books, etc.
He and I engage heavily with both of the above franchises and he loves asking what their names are, who do they fight and why do they fight them, are they good guys or bad guys and all that fun childhood imaginative stuff. It would be so cool to read him a comic book at bedtime about some endeavoring or warring space groups like Star Trek, BSG, or even FTL (indie space video game) and then the next windless day go and launch their ship at the park.
I would honestly do this myself if I were a writer or artist. Package a short story with a kit. The bonus here would be that if it were an original story idea every single ship of that "universe" could be a flyable design. No forcing airplane like scifi vehicles to be rockets.
If someone out there does this already then point me to it. I know there are individual kits with back stories but haven't seen full line ups.
He and I engage heavily with both of the above franchises and he loves asking what their names are, who do they fight and why do they fight them, are they good guys or bad guys and all that fun childhood imaginative stuff. It would be so cool to read him a comic book at bedtime about some endeavoring or warring space groups like Star Trek, BSG, or even FTL (indie space video game) and then the next windless day go and launch their ship at the park.
I would honestly do this myself if I were a writer or artist. Package a short story with a kit. The bonus here would be that if it were an original story idea every single ship of that "universe" could be a flyable design. No forcing airplane like scifi vehicles to be rockets.
If someone out there does this already then point me to it. I know there are individual kits with back stories but haven't seen full line ups.
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Estes is trying something like that with their Destination Mars and Space Corps lines - which, by being developed in-house, saves them from paying licensing fees. Years ago Estes went down that road with all the Star Wars rockets, I wonder if an increase in sales covered the licensing costs?
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I think thrust vectoring stability is coming sooner than we think.
The Kate 2.0 system has GPS based deployment at apogee. www.Multitronix.com
shockie
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wireless launch controllers
A-D composites with a screw on delay/ejection charge assembly so I can pick and choose what delays to use
A-D composites with plastic RMS cases; basically RMS in plastic
Get rid of the ridiculous 62.5 gram limit......don't get me started on this; at a minimum double it to 125g ; the BATFE is stupid
along with the CPSC.....both never saw a regulation they didn't like even if it make no sense in the 1st place
13mm A-C composites
13-18mm A-D composite cored endburners.....
A-D composites that be staged
altimeters and GPS for 13 and 18mm model rockets
Estes to make SuperScale models of past Estes and Centuri favorites for their EF engines.....why the hell have EF engines if you have no models to use them in 1 +1=2 guys.....this isn't rocket science its advertising and marketing 101
A-D composites with a screw on delay/ejection charge assembly so I can pick and choose what delays to use
A-D composites with plastic RMS cases; basically RMS in plastic
Get rid of the ridiculous 62.5 gram limit......don't get me started on this; at a minimum double it to 125g ; the BATFE is stupid
along with the CPSC.....both never saw a regulation they didn't like even if it make no sense in the 1st place
13mm A-C composites
13-18mm A-D composite cored endburners.....
A-D composites that be staged
altimeters and GPS for 13 and 18mm model rockets
Estes to make SuperScale models of past Estes and Centuri favorites for their EF engines.....why the hell have EF engines if you have no models to use them in 1 +1=2 guys.....this isn't rocket science its advertising and marketing 101
Wow, a lot of great ideas. In have to admit, though, that the first thing I thought of was for Estes to re-issue their LTV Scout kit! I had one back when and it was one of my favorites. With the new composite LP motors it would be even better.
Between all of our great vendors and suppliers we can clone just about anything these days, but the Scout was pretty accurate scale model and used a bunch of odd tube sizes, so it's tough to do right.
Between all of our great vendors and suppliers we can clone just about anything these days, but the Scout was pretty accurate scale model and used a bunch of odd tube sizes, so it's tough to do right.
Really!? Thanks exciting. I'll check it out.
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More core-burn or partial-core-burn black powder motors (that have higher thrust than what's available now). It was great that Estes brought back the "Super C" C5-3. How about a C5-0 booster? How about bringing back the B14, especially the B14-0 booster. It would be great to have a D16-ish-0 booster as well.
Yup, I know that composite 18mm and 24mm motors are available-- I have them, and I fly them. But you can't do direct staging with them, nor do they have the nostalgia of traditional BP motors.
Yup, I know that composite 18mm and 24mm motors are available-- I have them, and I fly them. But you can't do direct staging with them, nor do they have the nostalgia of traditional BP motors.
There are some problems with getting GNSS (Global Navigation Satellite System) coordinates during very fast flights or very high flights. How about a data logging GNSS receiver that logs the pseudoranges during flight, to an SD card or something, and then can be post-processed following landing. That gets the actual satellite data at the relevant points in the flight but there is no problems with COCOM lockouts on the GNSS receiver. You would obviously need another receiver for in-flight telemetry. I have heard of this being done. It doesn't appear to be too difficult, but high-speed logging to the memory is critical. I would buy one of these.
NOTE: GNSS is the more generic term for a position location system based on satellites. GPS is, these days, seen to more refer to the Navstar system that the USA instigated many years ago. Nowadays there are many more systems (Galileo, GLONASS, BeiDou), hence the need for a more generic term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation
NOTE: GNSS is the more generic term for a position location system based on satellites. GPS is, these days, seen to more refer to the Navstar system that the USA instigated many years ago. Nowadays there are many more systems (Galileo, GLONASS, BeiDou), hence the need for a more generic term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation
There are a few...
As someone else mentioned. Better App support for GPS tracking hardware thats out there. Lots of different hardware out there thsts great but the apps are out of date, don't function, crash, other issues... ones that will be updated, record data and track the rocket to find it. Supported.
Next would be some more options of dual thrust long burn motors. Ranging from J through N motors for minimum diameter flights. Love it if the diameter can be kept smaller. Such as 38 J , 54mm K and L, 75mm M, 98mm N. but it's also relative to total impulse and burn time for a given motor.
What are the actual current limitations of altimeters and electronics for deployment of high altitude flights. 100k msl? Like to see further development of the higher altitude capabilities.
As someone else mentioned. Better App support for GPS tracking hardware thats out there. Lots of different hardware out there thsts great but the apps are out of date, don't function, crash, other issues... ones that will be updated, record data and track the rocket to find it. Supported.
Next would be some more options of dual thrust long burn motors. Ranging from J through N motors for minimum diameter flights. Love it if the diameter can be kept smaller. Such as 38 J , 54mm K and L, 75mm M, 98mm N. but it's also relative to total impulse and burn time for a given motor.
What are the actual current limitations of altimeters and electronics for deployment of high altitude flights. 100k msl? Like to see further development of the higher altitude capabilities.
Kate 2 has unlimited altitude capability. www.multitronix.com
Vern, appreciate the input. How does a non HAM band operate so strongly?
And when will Kate 2 be available?
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The GPS altitude range is unlimited but the radio range is limited to a maximum of about 100 miles direct line of sight. That is achieved with a full 1 watt transmit signal, a receiver antenna gain of about 6dB and a receiver sensitivity of about -110 dBm.
So if the flight is under 528,000 ft you should still get radio signal from the transmitter on the rocket to the ground unit?
Yes.
The link budget calculations indicate it will work that far. It was also grounded tested to 550,000 feet and it maintained the telemetry data link.
Well.... I guess someone is gonna have to take my money.
Great info!! Seriously looking into a system. Looks like I need to do my reading on it. Thank you Vern
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We need a bunch of software things.
- A CFD flight sim that handles arbitrary shapes and inputs the design from standard CAD file formats and can work as a plug-in with OnShape, SolidWorks, etc.
- (not just for rocketry) A competent, open source CAM package for XYZA milling and routing.
- A wireless networked flight computer array so that you can put logic in an upper stage avbay, lower stage(s), advanced payloads, and ground systems without having to run wires between them all.
- An effective and affordable active flight verticalizer system to keep vehicles close to their intended attitude (e.g. 85˚ above the horizon) to reduce dispersion of failure/ballistic trajectories and increase safety on the flight line.
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