That 2020 DUNE film

[Funkworks]

I haven't been much into movies lately, but I might lift a finger for this one because it's apparently an important sci-fi book, and the 1984 film was down right awful as I remember it. I'm willing to give Dune another chance for the sake of satisfying the sci-fi fan I was in the 80's. I hope this one works out.

 

[OKTurbo]

Total Dune geek. Can’t wait for this one to come out. Should be getting a trailer soon.

 

[o1d_dude]

Read the “Dune” series back in 1967+ but never got into the movie.

Sometimes your imagination is better than the Hollywood version.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

The Dune book is very hard to adapt to a movie, because so much of the story is people’s interior thoughts and their secret strategies that they hide from everyone else and never say out loud. A lot of the dialog is contrary to what the characters are actually thinking. So there are a lot of conversations where you have one character say something in dialog, then there’s narrative of the other character’s inner reaction and thoughts, and then there’s the dialog of what the second character actually says. There’s lots of lying, deception, and misdirection, and you read about it in real time.

The older movie tried a technique where the audience could hear a voiceover of some characters’ inner thoughts, but it doesn’t work very well in a movie. Part of what made that movie not so good.

It will be interesting to see how they handle the inner thoughts problem in the new movie. I’m hoping for Shakespearean soliloquies!

 

[user 13]

The BBC mini series came close, but as posted Dune is almost impossible to deal with in one movie.
Even the mini series had issues.

The characters are so well developed in the book, I really can't see how they can be portrayed on screen in the time of the average movie.

Some books just surpass the ability of film to properly portray them.

 

[kuririn]

I can't wait for the five sequels, ala Star Wars.
Oh, wait.......


Guess I won't be holding my breath.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

I really loved the original book. But the sequel books just got weirder and weirder. I thought maybe Frank Herbert was slowly losing his mind as he wrote them.

 

[Funkworks]

Me if the sandworms turn out ok, at least there's that that. I know little of the story, but I like the idea of enormous beasts swimming in the desert.

 

[SecondRow]

I really loved the original book. But the sequel books just got weirder and weirder. I thought maybe Frank Herbert was slowly losing his mind as he wrote them.

This. I love the first book. The second one I was just "meh" on, but I made it through. I gave up on the third one and never finished the series. I recently checked out what happens in the later books to see what I missed. After letting out a giant WTF, I have to say I do not regret quitting on the series.

Still read Dune from time to time, though.

 

[heada]

The movie was OK if you take it for what it is, an adaption of a difficult book. The mini series was better. I've read at least the first 4 books ( I think the first 5 but can't remember) and they get odd but he does bring the storyline back eventually.

I look forward to this movie and will accept it as I have the others, an adaption of a difficult book.

 

[user 13]

Has anyone read the prequels, written buy Herberts son Brian and Kevin Anderson?

They are from the vast notes and background information written by Frank.

They are actually very good and flesh out the "history" of the Dune universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_prequel_series

 

[PhlAsh]

It's going to be in 2 parts. I think this will piss off a lot of fans as characters like Feyd don't show up until pt2.

Hope for the best - expect the worst.

 

[John Kemker]

Haven't read the prequels, yet. I first encountered Frank Herbert in the pages of Galaxy magazine with a serialization of one of his novels, Whipping Star. In it, I learned the difference between bias and prejudice.

 

[Funkworks]

I like this channel. I just found out they also put their twist on Dune:

 

[shreadvector]

I preferred The White Plague.

 

[Tobor]

"The Spice must flow...."

 

[Funkworks]

Here it is:

 

[mikec]

Interesting, but WTH is the Pink Floyd doing in there?

 

[neil_w]

Interesting, but WTH is the Pink Floyd doing in there?

That sort of thing is a cliche in modern trailers, explained well in an episode of the excellent 20000 Hz podcast... "The Booj": https://www.20k.org/episodes/thebooj. The whole thing is worth a listen, but you can go to 17:00 to hear them talk about music like this.

 

[modeltrains]

Was interesting reading Dune in 1970s while sitting under a tree next to a babbling brook at a campground in the Appalachian Mountains.

Water ...

 

[neil_w]

BTW I like the look of this trailer very much. Although my memory of the book is getting dimmer over the years (read it around 1980), this feels "right" to me. The Gom Jabbar scene seemed perfect (for example) and the sandworms looked as good as you'd hope with modern FX. Also think Timothee Chalomet looks very well-cast as Paul.

I'm looking forward to this.

 

[SecondRow]

I like the trailer, too. I have a feeling it will be “less cerebral” than the book, but what can you really do with an IMO unfilmable book that everyone wants to see as a movie?
Pencil me in at “cautiously optimistic” for now.

 

[rharshberger]

I like the trailer, too. I have a feeling it will be “less cerebral” than the book, but what can you really do with an IMO unfilmable book that everyone wants to see as a movie?
Pencil me in at “cautiously optimistic” for now.

I will concur with your sentiments on this new version, and with others about the books being made into movies. Some movies like LOTR that were originally multipart books (Lord of the Rings was 6 books in 3 volumes iirc) are really hard to compress into a few hours of movies, I am a LOTR fan of the books and I really liked the movies, however there were glaring inaccuracies in the movies simply because they had to do it that way to get a good storyline for a live action movie, I also view the previous versions of Dune on their own merits...none of them were true to the books completely, I did like the 1980's version of DUNE where others didn't but it was more a Cliffs Notes version of the 5 or so books with artistic license thrown in.

 

[neil_w]

I think my very distant memories of the book will suit me well here, since I won't remember which parts were cut, or notice what was changed.

 

[SecondRow]

I will concur with your sentiments on this new version, and with others about the books being made into movies. Some movies like LOTR that were originally multipart books (Lord of the Rings was 6 books in 3 volumes iirc) are really hard to compress into a few hours of movies, I am a LOTR fan of the books and I really liked the movies, however there were glaring inaccuracies in the movies simply because they had to do it that way to get a good storyline for a live action movie, I also view the previous versions of Dune on their own merits...none of them were true to the books completely, I did like the 1980's version of DUNE where others didn't but it was more a Cliffs Notes version of the 5 or so books with artistic license thrown in.

I like the LOTR films as well, and will confess that I like them better than the books, which I think has some very boring parts in it, especially the first one ——especially Tom Bombadil.

I like the 80s Dune, to an extent. It has some good scenes, but you can tell David Lynch didn’t really bother to read the book. I think it’s much better than the Sci Fi Dune miniseries that came out around 2000(?). God, that one was boring and terrible. But I will never understand how someone thought Lynch was going to make a “by the numbers” Dune. He’s out there.

 

[Louis Wu]

My favorite scene was with Patrick Stewart (Gurney?) playing a string and the Atreidis hosting deVries?

 

[Louis Wu]

Here’s the trailer for Asimov’s ‘Foundation’.

 

[GlenP]

...It will be interesting to see how they handle the inner thoughts problem in the new movie...

They could share their inner thoughts in a "reality" TV interview/staged documentary/confessional style like The Office or Parks & Rec, Modern Family, etc. I liked how they did depicted the inner struggle of the different personality traits in the old show Herman's Head, kind of similar to the animated Inside Out.

 

[SecondRow]

They could share their inner thoughts in a "reality" TV interview/staged documentary/confessional style like The Office or Parks & Rec, Modern Family, etc.

I wanted to pull my hand out, see? But the old lady stuck the needle in my neck and would kill me if I did. NOT COOL old lady. Anyway, I just said to myself this saying my mom taught me. I felt better.

 

[samb]

Pink Floyd was going to be involved in the soundtrack a movie that never was.



Answer to mikec's question in post #18, but I forgot to quote.