Upscale BSG Colonial Viper RC Rocket glider

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I had done a 2.6" version of the BSG Viper that flew quite well by using an oversized wing painted black to hide all but the scale viper wing outline. I had thought of doing an upscale but was not convinced that I could get it to come out at a reasonable weight. However, working on my X-15 full fuse using BT-101 I played around with openrocket looking at masses and locations/length and figured if I used a MDRM 4" nose cone I could probably get something around 27 ounces less motor that would work with just minor nose weight, something around 1 ounce only. With the longer nose cone profile I trimmed the body tube back to keep the overall length the same proportion as my smaller version.

I worked up the dimensions using 1.54 scale factor for the tube diameter ratio and it came out to be. 43" length, 4" diameter, 37.75" wingspan, 31.8 ounces ready to fly with F-25/26 29mm motors to around 450', or with 1/2 ounce added nose weight I could fly on G-38 or G-40 motors at 33.2 oz rtf to 600' or so. I did spend a lot of time belt sanding down and then smoothing the nose cone becuase the outer diameter was too large at the rear with the thinner bt-101 tube. Then I had to cut the top and cut a foam filler plate for the front.

For the wings/tail I used 9mm depron for stiffness with a small spar in the vertical stab and two 1/8" spars in the wing. I'll work my way up with the motors to make sure I'm not pushing the speed too fast to cause flutter. I normally try to keep my boost speeds below 120fps but these are simulating at 150, 170 and 200fps. The span of the wing is well supported and pretty stiff.
I did insert some stiffener foam vertical plates in each bottom half of the side boosters to help on landing to support them.

Here she is balanced and ready to go, just waiting on motors and the decals from stickershock.

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Those are homemade French canele cakes that my daughter made...

QUOTE="BABAR, post: 1963398, member: 8312"]Those cakie things look pretty good too![/QUOTE]
 
Those are homemade French canele cakes that my daughter made...

QUOTE="BABAR, post: 1963398, member: 8312"]Those cakie things look pretty good too!
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Ship a few of those with each kit and you will double your business!

Any models optimized purely for flight characteristics? You have clearly mastered making just about anything fly!
 
Flight optimization isn't my interest, so no I haven't done that. There are many excellent prefabbed dlg gliders that can be converted fairly simply that would out do anything I could design. My interests and why I got into the business was because there were no cool looking sport flyers that were easy to build and that's what I'm trying to provide. JH aerospace offers some in the performance glider vein.

Another aspect is how much time and money I want to invest in the business. I'm able to offer a large variety since I cut these to order and use common materials and tooling. There really is no money to be made in the RC rocket glider business, and that's not why I'm doing it, I don't want to invest in laser cutters different materials, carbon fiber etcetera which would be required to offer something that would be competition competitive.


Any models optimized purely for flight characteristics? [/QUOTE]
 
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Superb! You're a true artist, not only in your technical design skills, but in detailing your models with colors, panel lines, insignias, etc.
 
You are very kind, the little details really make a model pop but really don't take that long to add.

Here is another video on a G-40.

 
I keep thinking about this project. I know it is made with 9 mm depron. I have a vast supply of 6 mm depron, which can be glued together to made 12 mm depron. Would a viper made from 12 mm depron be flyable?
 
You will add tail weight and therefore nose weight, and glide will be reduced, Since this boosts on a more powerful motor(G-38 or G-40) the boost weight won't be as much of an issue, but I don't have any plans drawn to share. You'd have to swag it yourself.

Frank

I keep thinking about this project. I know it is made with 9 mm depron. I have a vast supply of 6 mm depron, which can be glued together to made 12 mm depron. Would a viper made from 12 mm depron be flyable?
 
An entire sheet of 9mm that is 27" by 39" is 214grams, or 7.5 ounces, original 6mm should be similar to 9mm depron in weight per cubic foot, so your flying surface weight would increase by 33% plus the weight of the spray adhesive which won't be nominal in a large surface. I think I used an entire sheet or close to it, so maybe 11 ounces, or an increase of 3.5 ounces with glue maybe, so maybe 2 ounces for the nose weight increase given the moment arm. So overall you are 5.5 ounces heavier, so you will be at close to 39.5 oz rtf instead of 34.

What is the weight of your depron per square inch?
 
Very cool build. This is the first time I've ever seen a rocket powered glider this big. Things sure have changed.
 

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