Can't get GPS lock with new Eggfinder mini

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Zyzzyva1000

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I decided I needed a second eggfinder mini, so I didn't have to move it between rockets quite so much. Got through the build without any apparent issues. Did the GPS check using the serial cable before attaching the radio chip. It powers on, I can program it, the radio chip blinks, but I never get the amber LED light to come on. It seems to communicate with the receiver (I just get the 'waiting for fix' message, but if the mini is turned on I get the beeping). I let it sit for 20-30 minutes outside, no change. Turned it off, powered up my other mini and in under a minute I had a lock and connection to the receiver. I went back and looked at everything under my lighted magnifier, even reflowed the resistor and capacitors. No change. I have attached photos (maybe not the best soldering, but I have built everything else Cris offers without issue). Just curious if anyone has any other ideas?
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Well with Cris' help, have been doing some debugging. Only have Mac laptops, so managed to find a Mac program (GPS dashboard) that will provided interpretable output via a GUI. Kind interesting watching as the satellites acquire.

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That was from my working mini. Unfortunately when I tried with the newly built mini, I get nothing.
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The RF chip is working, but there is no GPS data, no evidence that it is 'seeing' any satellites at all. Unless Cris as any other ideas, I think I might have just gotten a bad GPS chip. Even just the raw data in the terminal, you can tell it's not passing the same data as the working unit. Hope I can still get this worked out before LDRS. Fingers crossed.
 
At this point it looks like a GPS antenna issue. I'm going to have you check one more thing...

Please solder the corner pad at the end of the "Quectel" logo (the corner closest to the PGM header). Make sure that the solder wicks up and fills in the "half moon" pad on the GPS module.

Let me know if that does it or not, thanks.
 
Some new build gremlins are impossible to debug. There comes a time to throw it in the junk drawer. I've had a few of those and with new builds, if I flip a component into "never-never" land I've many times been able to desolder a replacement one from a project that never worked after building/attempted debugging. Sometimes best to move on. That's just the risk one takes when building electronic kits. Occasionally best to man up and start anew with a new kit. Oh, I've had a 100% success in 3 "salvage" cases doing this. It pays to get some modest SMT desoldering hardware and doing it by hand is possible if one is going to be building a lot of these kits. Cris knows his stuff and has been an excellent source for debugging his products.

Now if hardware dies in a lawn dart, best to toss into a junk box and start over. If a unit like a deployment altimeter seems to work after a lawn dart, put it in a "beater" rocket you don't mind losing for a flight test. If the "return to flight" launch is nominal then by all means use it. I had a fellow flier who ground tested a lawn darted deployment altimeter and it responded nominally. Put it in another rocket and had another lawn dart. He was experienced too and fastidious about deployment wiring. Fortunately used a "beater" for the test and that device too ended up in the junk box.

Don't do a return to flight with other associated devices like trackers as if it's off-nominal you may trash them too. Choose a beater rocket and motor for a "traditional", manual line-by-sight recovery.

The other option is fly a lawn darted deployment altimeter as a backup deployment device in a dual hardware flight. The backup lawn darted altimeter should fire the charges nominally on descent. In that case it's being tested under G forces and I'd feel more confident with that device. Use as the primary deployment device so your "good" backup is there to take over. Once recovered if all four charges fired, one is good to go. If only the "good" backup fired and saved the flight, the previously lawn-darted primary goes into the junk box.

Some folks don't have large enough projects to fly two altimeters so the best I can figure is up above for testing one.

Ground testing protocols in units that have them aren't 100% as outlined above. Sure, firing ematches on the ground ensures there is continuity of the ematch circuits but doesn't guarantee flight performance in a previously lawn darted deployment altimeter. Best to be cautious all-around. Kurt
 
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