Reload hardware

How does Rousetech Monster Motor reload hardware compare to aerotech or Dr. Rocket? What's up hobbies has rousetech hardware that is about 20% cheaper than any price I have seen for aerotech or Dr. Rocket. Thanks!

With the three 29mm 40-120 cases I have, 2 Rousetech 1 Aerotech. I see no difference other than colour and price although the anodizing may be tougher on the Rousetech.

We reccomend Rouse-Tech hardware over the rest, check out his site www.rouse-tech.com for more info.

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A couple of us bought those Rouse Tech 24/40 cases and I can say they do the job very nicely. I do not have an AT version in 24mm to compare with though, (I do have an AT 29/40-120 case). But only difference I can see are lack of large logos on Rouse Tech cases (has small engraving) and the color of the Aluminum finish (gold). I have 15+ launches on both my RT 24/40 and AT 29/40-120 cases and would not be without either. Can't go wrong with either.

I've used Aerotech, Dr. Rocket and now the Monster Motor/Rouse-Tech casings. Casing colors not withstanding... form, fit and function appear to be the same on all three. I have to admit that the price of the Rouse-Tech product was a deciding factor for me and my latests purchase, the 29/360 casing.

Best Regards

Own an AT 29/40-120, Dr R 29/240, RT 29/120, RT 29/180, RT 38/240, and RT 38/600. As far as cleaning goes the RT casings are the easiest to clean I've found then flowned by Dr R, then AT. The RT casings are easier to clean to because they have a harder anodizing then the Dr R and AT casings. I personally am buying only RT from now. Also RT casings and closures are cheaper then Dr R and AT in most cases.

Thanks for all of your responses, much appreciated. One more question -- is there a reason to buy a 29/120 case or 29/100 case as opposed to just getting a 29/40-120 case? Doesn't the latter cover all 29mm motors up to 120 ns?

Doesn't the latter cover all 29mm motors up to 120 ns?

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Short answer: no, the motors for 29/40-120 and 29/120 (or 29/60 or 29/100) are different and not exchangeable. Goto https://www.aerotech-rocketry.com/ and click on their product catalogue and see the motors for each.

If you are just starting out, get 29/40-120 or a 3-size package deal (18mm, 24mm, and 29/40-120).

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The 29/120 only has two reloads the G79W (great motor) and the G77R (have yet to fly one of these). The 29/100 also only has two reloads the G54W and the G104T (you have to certified at least L1 to fly the G104 because it's consider a high power rocket motor because it's average thrust is higher than 80N's). The 29/40-120 on the other hand has seven reloads E16W, E23T, F22J, F40W, F52T, G33 (need to certified at least L1 to fly the the G33 because it has over 62.5 grams of propellant), and the G64W. So you can either get casings with two reloads or you can get a casings with 7 reloads. The 29/120 is nice because it has the G79 this motor is only 1 N's less in average thrust then the new G80 and 15N's to total impluse more then the new G80. But personally if I had to choose one of these I would choose the 29/40-120.

W= White Lightning
T = Blue Thunder
J = Black Jack
R = Redline

Originally posted by JJI
Thanks for all of your responses, much appreciated. One more question -- is there a reason to buy a 29/120 case or 29/100 case as opposed to just getting a 29/40-120 case? Doesn't the latter cover all 29mm motors up to 120 ns?

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I have the 29/60, 20/100, and 29/120 cases in addition to a pair of 29/40-120 cases (all Rouse Tech.)

I am *very* pleased with the "high power" style cases. The G79W and G77R reloads are just awesome. The G54W is a *sweet* motor that's kinda like a 'tweener betweeen the F40W and G64W (relating it to 29/40-120 reloads.)

Personaly, I think the HPR style cases are easier to assemble and easier to clean (the only exception being the ejection charge. Minor, but easier on the 29/40-120 case.)

In short, I'm pleased that I have both. If you can afford both, I *highly* recommend both styles.

I should add that I posed this same question before purchasing the HPR style casings. It was certainly my first impression: "What's the point?" I think you have to assemble some motors of both types and fly them to appreciate it.

Again, I think it's WELL worth it.

I like the Rousetech 29mm aft closure because you can use it on the29/360 case and with Dr Rocket you must buy the whole motor because the aft closure is different.

Originally posted by JOEROCKET
I like the Rousetech 29mm aft closure because you can use it on the29/360 case and with Dr Rocket you must buy the whole motor because the aft closure is different.

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HUH?!?!?!?

The 29/360 motor uses a larger nozzel hole than the rest of the 29mm high power motors. I have seen on the Dr Rocket website that they only sell the 29/360 motor as a whole motor. With RT you only need the case for the 29/360 becaust their 29mm aft closure is standard with the larger hole.

All the aft closures (AT, Dr Rocket, Rouse) are the same. I have both Dr Rocket and Rouse 29mm hardware (including the 360 case) and there is exactly zero difference between the closures other than color.

*Note that this is HPR hardware, not hobby line

I have an AT and a RT 29mm High Power closure in front of me and there is a difference. The AT has a smaller hole than the RT.

Really?

How old is the aerotech hardware?

I don't have any HPR aerotech hardware, but I assumed it was the same as the Dr Rocket.

Pretty old.

That would explain it. The older hardware (pre-360 case) had a smaller hole because no nozzle needed a bigger hole. Once the 360 case came out, the larger hole was needed and all new closures (for any case) have the larger hole.

Originally posted by JOEROCKET
I have an AT and a RT 29mm High Power closure in front of me and there is a difference. The AT has a smaller hole than the RT.

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The newer AT/Dr. Rocket 29mm HPR stuff (the last, say, 5 years or so) has an aft closure that works on all four cases (120, 180, 240, 360).

It even works on all 6 cases

(60, 100, 120, 180, 240, 360)

Will the closures on the 29/40-120 motor work for the other 29mm cases, like the 180ns case and the 240ns case?

No, the closures for the Hobby line (29/40-120) do not work on the RMS Easy Access line (29/60; 29/100; 29/120; 29/180; 29/240; 29/360)

-Aaron

Nope. Different thread pattern and closure shape (the hobby line cases have a much finer thread pattern).

I just re-read this thread, and I should clarify my own response above.

Regarding the ejection charge in the 29/x case vs. the 29/40-120 case:

The ejection charge is easier to assemble (and then fly) in the 29/40-120 case.

The ejection charge residue is *much* easier to clean up after with the 29/x "high power" cases.

In short, in my opinion, EVERYTHING is easier with the HPR style cases, except the LOADING of the ejection charge. And this is *very* minor. The other difference aren't nearly as trivial, in my opinion.