I've been told by government officials that I'm on one very specific list: The list of super-uber-awesome-nice-happy-fantastic people.
But I'm not completely sure this list actually exists. But if it does, I can see how I'd be on it. :grin:
Point being, as long as you're doing nothing wrong, go ahead and be on as many Lists as you can be.
People doing nothing wrong are being shot by police just about everyday.
Just to make sure, I just did a YouTube search for TATP and HMTD. Amazing they allow synthesis videos for those on YouTube.Will the hobby of rocketry (and the interesting browser history I create) put me on a government watch list? Just wondering.
Everyone please remember that when the foreign terrorists attack here on US soil, the NSA was watching me.
I've been told by government officials that I'm on one very specific list: The list of super-uber-awesome-nice-happy-fantastic people.
But I'm not completely sure this list actually exists. But if it does, I can see how I'd be on it. :grin:
Short answer: NO. The Constitution protects you from search and seizure without a warrant. So unless you have run afoul of the FBI and they have a warrant to search your computer and or e-mails, then no, you are not on any watch list.
if we arent on a list, I question our governments thoroughness.
I would think it might be possible that our hobby would put you on a watch list for flights... particulary if you work with black powder, or handle explosives or fuel at the launch site, and then go straight to the airport without a couple of thorough wash-ups, showers, or scrubbing your hands to rid all traces. (Somebody shared a horror tale about being detained not too long ago.)
If you have made one nasty post about the government on any social media website you are on the list.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion; what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." ~ Thomas Jefferson
Does that mean Thomas Jefferson was on a watch list?
Whaaa-whaa-wha-whaaaaaaa....I bought a Fossil once and got put on a watch list.
That's why I always carry my NAR card; if they detect some powder or residue, it's most likely been picked up at a launch. I haven't had to use it yet but it's good to have on me.Once, in 2004, I had come home to Vermont for some Leave time. Fireworks had just been legalized, and my friends and I had spent the night prior to my Departure back to Ft. Riley by partying it up and shooting off tons of Fireworks.
At the Burlington Airport, they selected me at what I assume was "Random" to get those little Paper discs rubbed on me for the "Sniffer" Machine.
It tested positive for Explosives all over my Clothes and Backpack, which had been full of Mortars and Bottle Rockets just the Night before.
I had my Orders to show them, so they determined that I was good to go and sent me on my Flight.
That's why I always carry my NAR card; if they detect some powder or residue, it's most likely been picked up at a launch. I haven't had to use it yet but it's good to have on me.
I worked with a fellow who had a name that was on the "No Fly" list although it was for some other guy. It still took him extra time every time he had to fly somewhere. He may have been able to fill out some paperwork to ease his travels as 9/11 moves further into history. His father, with a similar but slightly different name, has no trouble. Being a FEMA manager may have some impact on that, though.
That could present a real problem on a rocketry trip involving air travel, especially if you were going direct from the launch site to your flight. Also, consider that you might have moved your luggage in the hotel while your hands were still contaminated sometime during the duration of the event. The handle(s) will then be contaminated.Once, in 2004, I had come home to Vermont for some Leave time. Fireworks had just been legalized, and my friends and I had spent the night prior to my Departure back to Ft. Riley by partying it up and shooting off tons of Fireworks.
At the Burlington Airport, they selected me at what I assume was "Random" to get those little Paper discs rubbed on me for the "Sniffer" Machine.
It tested positive for Explosives all over my Clothes and Backpack, which had been full of Mortars and Bottle Rockets just the Night before.
I had my Orders to show them, so they determined that I was good to go and sent me on my Flight.
Sugar propellants are still listed as "explosives" on the BATFE list, so that's the primary risk you take by using them without proper permits.It'd be some jackass with a sugarmotor...
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