Gary-
I watched that video you mentioned......wow...those guys and everybody else....look VERY close! Its either an optical illusion or this is very very wrong.
No offense intended but it sure look like there was someone within 100 feet of the pad for the under thrust Loc Bruiser. The same with the trailer and tree in the V2 flight.
If you read my post, I referred to it as too close or an illusion.
I agree it is probably an illusion.
Eric, I just watched the slo-mo video of your clustered/staged flight. Very nicely done! Congrats on a nice flight.
Haven't seen the video yet but I can personally attest that no one was 100' away from the pseudo bruiser flight.
Chuck my friend you missed my point. I'm sorry you chose not to pm me as requested . Here's the big secret: for the uninformed bong is an abandoned runway that is consequently narrow and long. This dictates a somewhat unique layout where the pads go straight out from the flightline unlike the more common perpendicular layout. When you combine this layout, zoom cameras, and a viewpoint from the pits or spectator area, I promise hat you will have people appearing to be standing on the pads being launched from!
Nice videos. Thanks. Very impressive tight shots with rockets staying in frame and mostly in focus. Can you give us a rundown of your equipment and methods?
ROY - WERE YOU THERE???Well, just looking at the layout on the website https://www.ldrs33.com/pages/LDRS_RangeLayout , it looks like the range was set up at minimum personnel distances to the LCO. So if, for instance, there were people setting up on the 'H,I,J' pads, or on the 'M' pads, while an 'L' or a research 'K' rocket was launching from the 'K,L' pads, they would certainly have been in violation of the minimum personnel distance (300' and 250'). Though it would have been ok for a commercial 'K' rocket (200'). If there was an 'M' rocket going on the 'M' pads, no one should be on any of the lesser pads, though people could be setting up on the 'N' pads.
And THANK YOU for doing so! :clap: (re: the vids not any perceived can of worms )I started this thread to let other people know about the videos. I didn't mean to open a can of worms. I just want to watch rockets fly! And thanks Max!
Well, just looking at the layout on the website https://www.ldrs33.com/pages/LDRS_RangeLayout , it looks like the range was set up at minimum personnel distances to the LCO. So if, for instance, there were people setting up on the 'H,I,J' pads, or on the 'M' pads, while an 'L' or a research 'K' rocket was launching from the 'K,L' pads, they would certainly have been in violation of the minimum personnel distance (300' and 250'). Though it would have been ok for a commercial 'K' rocket (200'). If there was an 'M' rocket going on the 'M' pads, no one should be on any of the lesser pads, though people could be setting up on the 'N' pads.
Lance is correct, safety and safe distances were followed. I believe Preston Nobile a while back in another thread mentioned that the range layout on the site was preliminary. In fact, the range layout was much different than shown (they implemented staggered right/left, not parallel/perpendicular banks) and extended the banks were farther back than shown in the picture, for instance the L distance was where M is shown on the linked picture while M was farther back.
Max here. Thanks for the support. As for camera equipment, it's a Nikon Coolpix - a fixed lens point-and-shoot that can do full HD video, too. I wear sunglasses and a hat with a floppy brim, press the eyepiece to my face (to add inertia to the camera, which is pretty light) and pull the brim down over the top of the camera to block excess light coming to my eyes (since the digital display in the eyepiece is much less bright than the surrounding sunlight). I intuitively choose my starting framing based on the thrust of the motor, set the focus to infinity, and try my best. Practice helps, of course, but I'm no Earl Cagle by any means.
ROY - WERE YOU THERE???
I was. All TRA safety distances were observed. This discussion should be OVER.
Max - thanks for posting your videos. LDRS 33 was a blast and a well organized and well run launch.
--Lance.
Lance is correct, safety and safe distances were followed. I believe Preston Nobile a while back in another thread mentioned that the range layout on the site was preliminary. In fact, the range layout was much different than shown (they implemented staggered right/left, not parallel/perpendicular banks) and extended the banks were farther back than shown in the picture, for instance the L distance was where M is shown on the linked picture while M was farther back.
Thanks. I am very impressed you were able to get such nice shots on a Nikon fixed lens. I use a Panasonic HDC-TM900K and can never keep a rocket in frame at that high of a zoom. You must have a very steady head and hands! My method is just to back off on the zoom and edit digitally later, but no way the results are as nice as yours. Welcome to the forum by the way.
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