WTB Estes Longshot BT-56 two-stage 1997-1998 era

Tramper Al · Feb 9, 2014

Hi,
I am looking to buy an Estes Longshot BT-56 two-stage kit from the 1997-1998 era. Specifically the black Longshot/Challenger II fin cans.
Thanks!

majordude · Feb 10, 2014

Look for the Eliminator: https://j.mp/1h4HmSN (NOT the Eliminator XL).

chris m · Feb 10, 2014

You can just scratch build it and may the fins out of ply . You can get the plans online

MikeyR.Saginaw · Feb 10, 2014

I'm pretty sure i have one, but it might be tough to find….

Mikey

Tramper Al · Feb 10, 2014

These are all valid suggestions, thank you.

As it turns out, though, I am literally looking for the Longshot's black fin can, as I am wanting to put together a proper Challenger II model. The Maniac (blue) and Eliminator (yellow) fins are the same, but I do not wish a paint-over effect. Similarly wood fins would only resort to if I could not find the right plastic fin can. And while I am able to find most old rocket plans online, not so the Challenger II or Longshot (2128). There is a parts diagram/card for a Longshot (1980), but that is a different rocket, single stage, balsa fins, etc.

I do own a couple of Eliminator kits, so that will be the source of my nosecone, and if necessary a yellow fin can to paint. I could also use this as my template to duplicate the fins in balsa.

Finding a Challenger II kit would be great, but I am thinking that coming across a Longshot, being much more recently sold, might be less pie in the sky? One sold on ebay late last year for 20-something, it seems.

majordude · Feb 10, 2014

Tramper Al said:
As it turns out, though, I am literally looking for the Longshot's black fin can...

If you have a NEW fin can I may have a black one. I'll have to look if you want to swap.

Tramper Al · Feb 10, 2014

majordude said:
If you have a NEW fin can I may have a black one. I'll have to look if you want to swap.

Brian, I just have the two yellow ones in my Eliminator kits, but both kits are sealed and the fins thus brand new. If you'd swap me a (also new?) black one that would be awesome. Thank you.

Fishhead · Feb 11, 2014

Tramper Al said:
These are all valid suggestions, thank you.

As it turns out, though, I am literally looking for the Longshot's black fin can, as I am wanting to put together a proper Challenger II model. The Maniac (blue) and Eliminator (yellow) fins are the same, but I do not wish a paint-over effect. Similarly wood fins would only resort to if I could not find the right plastic fin can. And while I am able to find most old rocket plans online, not so the Challenger II or Longshot (2128). There is a parts diagram/card for a Longshot (1980), but that is a different rocket, single stage, balsa fins, etc.

I do own a couple of Eliminator kits, so that will be the source of my nosecone, and if necessary a yellow fin can to paint. I could also use this as my template to duplicate the fins in balsa.

Finding a Challenger II kit would be great, but I am thinking that coming across a Longshot, being much more recently sold, might be less pie in the sky? One sold on ebay late last year for 20-something, it seems.

The Challenger II was an easy cloning project. Use a full length 18" BT-56 with the fin can and cone from the Eliminator. The decal is available in the Decal and Template section at YORP. https://www.oldrocketplans.com/decals.htm Pick your internals based on your field. I built mine as an 18mm small field bird, but I think a 29mm version might be in my near future since the Estes sale.

https://www.oldrocketforum.com/showpost.php?p=161150&postcount=3

Initiator001 · Feb 11, 2014

Fishhead said:
The Challenger II was an easy cloning project. Use a full length 18" BT-56 with the fin can and cone from the Eliminator. The decal is available in the Decal and Template section at YORP. https://www.oldrocketplans.com/decals.htm Pick your internals based on your field. I built mine as an 18mm small field bird, but I think a 29mm version might be in my near future since the Estes sale. https://www.oldrocketforum.com/showpost.php?p=161150&postcount=3

You could make a bunch of Enerjet 1340 clones. :wink:

Fishhead · Feb 11, 2014

Initiator001 said:
You could make a bunch of Enerjet 1340 clones. :wink:

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Well, at least one.

snuggles · Feb 11, 2014

Fishhead said:
Well, at least one.

I.....may have one in the basement shop(an original)
It's OLD, meaning the tube has yellowed quite a bit.
Mark

Buzzard · Feb 12, 2014

I bought a Longshot kit several years ago from a place that was, by their claim, a pawn/hobby shop. My reason for the purchase was to take it to the NARAM that summer and donate it to the annual Robert L.Cannon Education Fund Auction. I proudly donated it. It sold for a dollar less than the price it cost. Hope it found a good home. Should have kept the darn thing.

Chas

snuggles · Feb 13, 2014

snuggles said:
I.....may have one in the basement shop(an original)
It's OLD, meaning the tube has yellowed quite a bit.
Mark

I did find it.Black fin can , black nose cone.
PM me......

Tramper Al · Feb 14, 2014

Thanks, sent you a PM snuggles.

majordude · Feb 14, 2014

The fin cans (yellow only) are on sale this week: https://www.estesrockets.com/rockets/specials/001950-eliminatortm

Tramper Al · Feb 14, 2014

majordude said:
The fin cans (yellow only) are on sale this week: https://www.estesrockets.com/rockets/specials/001950-eliminatortm

Yes, Estes clearly wants me to replace the Eliminator kits I broke up this week - whose yellow fin cans are now en route to California!

majordude · Feb 14, 2014

Tramper Al said:
Yes, Estes clearly wants me to replace the Eliminator kits I broke up this week - whose yellow fin cans are now en route to California!

The Rocket Gods have clearly spoken! :w:

K'Tesh · Feb 27, 2017

And now I'm on the hunt for the black fin cans for this kit. I'm looking to clone the Challenger-II (2128) too.

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