How to create controlled flight?

jderimig · Jul 30, 2013

Vipertiper said:
I won't be able to join your club. Since its in NY Which is 2 hours away from NJ. Im on south side. :/

Bummer!

Vipertiper · Jul 30, 2013

jderimig said:
Bummer!

Yeah it is. I'll be going to maryland for a club. Since thats the nearest club near by that I could find. Hope to meet new people there

Area66 · Jul 30, 2013

I go to maryland ( Baltimore next week or the other ) may be I can stop at this club if they have a launch , where is it ?

Vipertiper · Jul 30, 2013

Here is there website https://new.mdrocketry.org/ There website is quite confusing. But by this. There at central sod farm and centreville in maryland You can check to see what there dates are.

tmacklin · Jul 30, 2013

Odo said:
...Launching rockets isnt illegal, immoral, nor fattening!
Whats the big idea here punk? *Popeye accent*

Eat my shorts. *Bart Simpson accent*

Vipertiper · Jul 30, 2013

I got a question.. Are water rockets good for the first ever model rocket? and are they allowed to be talked on this forum?

GDJ · Jul 30, 2013

Vipertiper said:
I got a question.. Are water rockets good for the first ever model rocket? and are they allowed to be talked on this forum?

Yes we can discuss them, but honestly there are better sites for those kind of rockets.

As a first rocket, sure.

Area66 · Jul 30, 2013

From a 100K rockets to water rockets, what a step down,

Vipertiper · Jul 30, 2013

Area66 said:
From a 100K rockets to water rockets, what a step down,

as for my first rocket I think its a great choice.

Odo · Jul 30, 2013

Area66 said:
From a 100K rockets to water rockets, what a step down,

Its a huge step UP from dropping car batteries from 700 feet.
hehe

Vipertiper · Jul 30, 2013

Odo said:
Its a huge step UP from dropping car batteries from 700 feet.
hehe

Hahaha, True

Odo · Jul 30, 2013

Vipertiper said:
as for my first rocket I think its a great choice.

I think water rockets is a nice place to start

I personally started with a SpaceX Falcon 9 with Dragon rocket, I still have it! Ive launched it 8 times and it flies like a dream, its so steady and has a slow realistic take off.
With a c-6-5 it flies best. I suggest definitely getting one sometime!

paul.nortness · Jul 31, 2013

I started with a Millennium Falcon

It did the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs. Though I've never tried, it will out run Imperial starships....and not the local bulk cruisers

TheSamurai · Jul 31, 2013

I'm not sure how to react. lol

I think we should all have dreams and you should pursue your dream of sending a rocket as high as you want. I don't know about dropping a car battery from your rocket. That doesn't really sound like a good idea. lol

As far as cost goes. I talked to the guy who was the first (I believe) amateur rocketeer to get a rocket into "space". He said that he and his team when all was said and done spent over 1 million dollars before they succeeded. So I hope you have deep pockets.

Vipertiper · Jul 31, 2013

Oh theres a video of that guy. Its the the world record height for model rocket. What I founded to do was put helium balloons all over my rocket and let it go when they poped. And than turn on the engines. Later that day, I thought it was cheating so I cancelled it.

[video=youtube;rnaNliE59LE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnaNliE59LE[/video]

82 km higher than 100,000 feet.

TheSamurai · Jul 31, 2013

Difficult task for sure.

Also, he didn't launch a model rocket. : )

Voxels · Jul 31, 2013

Look Viper.

I'm going to put this bluntly.

You are trying to send HPRs to SPACE without having built a single model rocket before. Most of the L3 Cert. people on this forum couldn't do that, and they've designed built and launched at least 100 rockets.

Here's what I think you should do.
1. Build a simple Estes LPR kit, such as the Big Bertha.
2. Fly this kit on a standard Estes BP 18mm motor.
3. If you're still interested in the hobby, advance on to scratchbuilding a LPR.
4. Either scratchbuild or kit build a MPR.
5. Then, and only then should you consider trying for your HPR 1 Cert.

Good luck, and I hope you enjoy the wonderful hobby of Model Rocketry!

Vipertiper · Jul 31, 2013

Voxels said:
Look Viper.

I'm going to put this bluntly.

You are trying to send HPRs to SPACE without having built a single model rocket before. Most of the L3 Cert. people on this forum couldn't do that, and they've designed built and launched at least 100 rockets.

Here's what I think you should do.
1. Build a simple Estes LPR kit, such as the Big Bertha.
2. Fly this kit on a standard Estes BP 18mm motor.
3. If you're still interested in the hobby, advance on to scratchbuilding a LPR.
4. Either scratchbuild or kit build a MPR.
5. Then, and only then should you consider trying for your HPR 1 Cert.

Good luck, and I hope you enjoy the wonderful hobby of Model Rocketry!

I never said I wanted to go to space for my first rocket.....

Odo · Jul 31, 2013

Vipertiper said:
I never said I wanted to go to space for my first rocket.....

You implied it with the helium baloon idea.
Also how would you start your engines once the balloons popped..
Youd need a really strong wireless connection..

Vipertiper · Jul 31, 2013

Odo said:
You implied it with the helium baloon idea.
Also how would you start your engines once the balloons popped..
Youd need a really strong wireless connection..

Yes but I cancelled the idea. I don't feel like buying tanks of helium and than have it sit there in my garage for months.

Rocket86 · Jul 31, 2013

paul.nortness said:
I started with a Millennium Falcon

It did the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs. Though I've never tried, it will out run Imperial starships....and not the local bulk cruisers

But you had to make a lot of special modifications yourself didn't you?

shreadvector · Jul 31, 2013

https://movie-sounds.net/Star-Wars/67/

Rocket86 said:
But you had to make a lot of special modifications yourself didn't you?

dave carver · Jul 31, 2013

Odo said:
You implied it with the helium baloon idea.
Also how would you start your engines once the balloons popped..
Youd need a really strong wireless connection..

It's how I planned to make my shot at the CATS Prize that Ky Michaelson won, at least I think he got it. A Dr. Rocket Modular 4" rocket with special interstage for 2 stage flight. Prototype N2000 Blue Thunder fuel. 3.5" military gyros for stability( they spun to almost 200,000 RPM) and 15-20 large heilum bottles filling 9 custom polypropylene bags. I had a radio station sponsor but just as we were ready to start the radio station got sold to a pop format chain and my guys were on the unemployment line...

paul.nortness · Jul 31, 2013

Rocket86 said:
But you had to make a lot of special modifications yourself didn't you?

Yeah, but it didn't look like much

Rocket86 · Jul 31, 2013

paul.nortness said:
Yeah, but it didn't look like much

It's got it where it counts though.

HistoryNerd · Aug 1, 2013

Area66 said:
He just fix the problem of clustering ; we put a car battery in the rocket and use relay to fire the igniters, so even after quit the launch a slow motors can start.

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John McClane would be proud

paul.nortness · Aug 2, 2013

Rocket86 said:
It's got it where it counts though.

This isn't the thread I was looking for

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