K and S Rockets site pushing to eBay now....

tfish said:

On the 14 day of Christmas K&S came to me...


Tony

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With a summons,

And NOTH-ING for Ro-ock-et-ry...

LOL What a loser...

Later! OL JR

cwbullet said:

I need some eggnog.....and maker's mark.

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Ahhh now thats the most sensible damn thing said in this whole thread lol

Highpowerrocketyahoo said:

Ahhh now thats the most sensible damn thing said in this whole thread lol

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or--Vodka and prune juice. It's commonly known as a "Pile Driver"

Involving a lawyer and the courts in this wouldn't be prudent on his part, I don't think. There happen to be regulations regarding taking money in advance and not delivering product within 30/50 days.

-Kevin

troj said:

Involving a lawyer and the courts in this wouldn't be prudent on his part, I don't think. There happen to be regulations regarding taking money in advance and not delivering product within 30/50 days.

-Kevin

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What about a class action suit? IDK just sayin'

Hate to tell ya'll but I got my 4" Viper kit a few months ago. Maybe it was due to the fact that I'd bought three other kits from him. Maybe it was the daily e-mails he got from me for several weeks.

Honestly, the Viper was a big disappointment. Nose cone quality sucks (maybe these are seconds? Seams were very thin). Laser cannons and fins are going to snap off on the first flight without fiberglassing. I've already bent them. No altimeter bay. Really just some tubes, plywood fins, centering rings and nose cone. FYI, the only thing laser-cut was the centering rings.

The one thing making this model look really cool are the vinyl decals I got from Stickershock123. But at least I got something. I believe he shipped 4 kits with a promise...

I have thought about doing a suit, but it would cost more than the value of the order.

Lawndart said:

Hate to tell ya'll but I got my 4" Viper kit a few months ago. Maybe it was due to the fact that I'd bought three other kits from him. Maybe it was the daily e-mails he got from me for several weeks.

Honestly, the Viper was a big disappointment. Nose cone quality sucks (maybe these are seconds? Seams were very thin). Laser cannons and fins are going to snap off on the first flight without fiberglassing. I've already bent them. No altimeter bay. Really just some tubes, plywood fins, centering rings and nose cone. FYI, the only thing laser-cut was the centering rings.

The one thing making this model look really cool are the vinyl decals I got from Stickershock123. But at least I got something. I believe he shipped 4 kits with a promise...

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I got my laser torpedo and I'm embarrassed for it. The nose cone is just shite the main body tube was destroyed - totally unusable. I was eventually sent a rocksim file but the advertised CD wasn't included. Over the Christmas break I'll pull it out of the box and take some photos & upload them. I will eventually build and fly it, but I think it's going to take a lot of work.

K & S seemed to have an outstanding reputation just 12 months ago - fantastic kits that people were proud to build and fly.

Pity.

Krusty.

AfterBurners said:

or--Vodka and prune juice...

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NO!

shrox said:

NO!

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It cleans you out for sure. Drink a couple of those when you have your hands full of epoxy making fillets.

cwbullet said:

I have thought about doing a suit, but it would cost more than the value of the order.

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Just out of question, how much are we talking about here?


Matt

For me about 200-300.

A lawsuit will put you over $25,000, even for something simple. Although it hurts, you will almost always be better off taking your lumps and moving on.

Joe

Agreed. His name is mud.

AfterBurners said:

or--Vodka and prune juice. It's commonly known as a "Pile Driver"

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Bahahahaha !

(Worf voice) A Warriors drink !

Kenny

I would love to hand deliver a pile driver.

HA or a .338 lapuar

cwbullet said:

I would love to hand deliver a pile driver.

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MAybe we should all just show up at his next go kart race... a handfull of us together might remind him where his priorities should be.. then we give him a piledriver.... BACKWARDS...

Funny. I am not sure it is worth the gas.

Small claims court can be helpful in this situation, if someone lives nearby they can probably deliver the paperwork to his jurisdiction. I am not sure if you have to appear in person, have a surrogate go, or have to have a lawyer as your surrogate.

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Small claims court can be helpful in this situation, if someone lives nearby they can probably deliver the paperwork to his jurisdiction. I am not sure if you have to appear in person, have a surrogate go, or have to have a lawyer as your surrogate.

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As I noted, a court ruling isn't the end. All it does is prove that he owes money .. and you already knew that.

The court might issue you a writ which you could present to a debt collector or sheriff to attempt to recover the money you owe. But, in my one experience with the process, I found that it wasn't worth the trouble.

-- Roger

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As I noted, a court ruling isn't the end. All it does is prove that he owes money .. and you already knew that.

The court might issue you a writ which you could present to a debt collector or sheriff to attempt to recover the money you owe. But, in my one experience with the process, I found that it wasn't worth the trouble.

-- Roger

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NOTHING you do in the court system does ANY good for ANYONE accept the lawyers... it lines their pockets..

we need to go "Judge Dredd" and Crime would go down...

We can always bring in the clowns.

Howz about sic`n Judge Judy on him ?

Man ,I wouldn`t want that old broad breathing down my throat .I`ve seen `er make grown men stutter and cry on TV :y:

Yessir ,she can smell bull$hit in the Febreze factory !

BTW-I just recently finished my K&S 2.6" version of his Colonial Viper and found it to be a pretty nice kit ,no complaints there.


Paul T

I was about to say something about judge judy, you stole my line...

Texas Justic is who i want.

Building a K&S SWAT right now. Quality is great. All plywood pieces are nicely cut, sturdy tubes, great altimeter bay. Had no problems with the 2.6" Viper kit either. Too bad they went out the way they did. Of course, adding the decals from Stickershock23 will make them really stand out.

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Building a K&S SWAT right now. Quality is great. All plywood pieces are nicely cut, sturdy tubes, great altimeter bay. Had no problems with the 2.6" Viper kit either. Too bad they went out the way they did. Of course, adding the decals from Stickershock23 will make them really stand out.

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I have to agree. Nice kits from a terrible business.

I did get an email from Scott today. For what is worth, he still intends to deliver the kits. Plans for late 2013 or first couple of weeks of 2014.

As one of folks that bought a 4" Colonial Viper Kit and the payload bay for it, what I am going to now say may make you guys think I am foolish or naïve.

But I do believe Scott will deliver the kits that folks like me have ordered and payed for. I have been customer of his for many years and he always provided me a very good product up till this last run of kits. A person who been running a good honest business doesn't all sudden turn into a crook and run away with a few thousand dollars from what I seen in my life. Something bad happened at K & S (his shop was flooded from what he told me in a email and he lost lot of product) after that I sure he was in trouble trying to get back going again. Yes he been bad at telling his customers what going on with things. ,But I do really think he will make it right, Folks need to stop all the bashing and stupid threats to him. All that it does is make a bad situation worse. Lets just see what happens and let Scott get our kits to us !


Cheers
John ..