NAR now allowed at TRA Research launches

Just in from Debra Koloms
"NAR members may fly commercial motors at a Tripoli Research Launch as long as the flight is within the fliers certification level and conforms to the NAR safety code."

I might go to Airfest now.

This is good news.

Woohoo!

Is there any reason left why a club wouldn't just do all research launches? Who can go onto the range might be more restrictive, but is that really a bad thing?

That is awesome news. I am a member of both, but attendees will help the bottom line.

belfert said:

Is there any reason left why a club wouldn't just do all research launches? Who can go onto the range might be more restrictive, but is that really a bad thing?

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A small field maybe. I think larger distances are required for the smaller research motors. No significant reasons.

I thought you could fly NAR anywhere as long as the safety code, waiver (if applicable), and local/state/federal laws are complied with, so I don't see why a tripoli research launch would fall outside any of those stipulations anyways...

Wahoo:wave:

COrocket said:

I thought you could fly NAR anywhere...

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At TRA research launches it was TRA rules that prohibited NAR fliers. Great news that they've eliminated this! Thanks TRA!

Great news indeed! Way to go TRA! :fly:

Well that's good news for NAR members. I am a Tripoli only member but I am surprised that this wasn't done long ago.

COrocket said:

I thought you could fly NAR anywhere as long as the safety code, waiver (if applicable), and local/state/federal laws are complied with, so I don't see why a tripoli research launch would fall outside any of those stipulations anyways...

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Nope, NAR only members could not fly at a TRA Research launch until now. TRA commercial launch yes.

jimzcatz said:

Just in from Debra Koloms
"NAR members may fly commercial motors at a Tripoli Research Launch as long as the flight is within the fliers certification level and conforms to the NAR safety code."

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This is good news! Things are looking up.

3/4 fins and a nose cone, but only bigger and more expensive? Yowzah!

All URRG launches are now EX due to this. So all you NAR members need to join URRG and get out to all our launches and enjoy that great field we have. Maybe after flying with us ex guys you might want to make the leap into this area that we find adds to the fun and keeps our minds going.

I think this was a great move as it will allow more interaction between the two groups and make for a better understanding by all.

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Indeed very good news.

TRA fliers at NAR field- No
If you have dual membership why keep your TRA ?-Membership drop
or NAR membership- Up
NAR TRA commercial on all 2-3 days. Research only 1 day- Still counter productive.

Yay cross-pollination!

it's ok as long as they charge twice the price to NAR member for the day, as exemple $ 40 for non TRA members and $ 20 for TRA members

Most excellant and welcomed news. Now if only we could get some rain to cancel the drought and Fire Bans.

G. Harry is shaking his head somewhere

BigRiJoe said:

G. Harry is shaking his head somewhere

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And why would that be?

Huh, apparently we can all get along.

rocketsaway said:

TRA fliers at NAR field- No
If you have dual membership why keep your TRA ?-Membership drop
or NAR membership- Up
NAR TRA commercial on all 2-3 days. Research only 1 day- Still counter productive.

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As far back as I remember, since I got back into the hobby in 1999, TRA folks have always been able to fly at NAR launches to the level of their certification without having to join NAR. NAR folks could fly at TRA commercial launches, but not at TRA research launches , without joining TRA. If a NAR member did not have dual membership, they rarely joined TRA to fly commercial at a TRA research launch. That's basically how Indy clubs sprung up. There was little motivation for a small TRA club heavily into research not to go Indy and get a lot more flyers going to their launches. More flyers, more revenue, better launch equipment and more financial stability. TRA was the looser, and now that it has been taken care of, IMO there is little motivation to form an Indy club since the advantage of TRA insurance is large. I think it's a winner for both TRA and the small local club heavily into research.

This is very good news! But!! Even when the documents are fully understood it will still be up to the TRA club if NAR members will be allowed to fly. It was my understanding(thru this forum) that NAR members were insured at TRA Research Safety Code Launches, so long as they flew commercial only. Correct me if I'm wrong. Some clubs excluded NAR flyers-PERIOD at Research Launches.

Oldschool77 said:

This is very good news! But!! Even when the documents are fully understood it will still be up to the TRA club if NAR members will be allowed to fly. It was my understanding(thru this forum) that NAR members were insured at TRA Research Safety Code Launches, so long as they flew commercial only. Correct me if I'm wrong. Some clubs excluded NAR flyers-PERIOD at Research Launches.

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Tony, in the past a flier who was a NAR member only was prohibited to fly at a TRA Research launch. This was due to NAR rules not TRA. All that has now changed.

And I stand corrected! Thank You for that info!

Whooo-hooo!!!!! Thanks TRA. This opens opportunity to fly. Granted the TRA club is 3 hours each way, but often times I can't make the Saturday commercial launches, but I can make the Sunday EX dates.... I am sure others will have similar opportunities.

jimzcatz said:

Tony, in the past a flier who was a NAR member only was prohibited to fly at a TRA Research launch. This was due to NAR rules not TRA. All that has now changed.

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Actually....you're wrong. Several years ago, NAR clarified that their policy was that as long as you followed the NAR Safety Code, you were covered. It was indeed Tripoli that said no.

-Kevin