Woosh - ECOF 2012 Sept.8th and 9th

[McKailas Dad]

ECOF (Eat Cheese or Fly) will be held at the Richard Bong recreation area in Wisconsin on September 8th and 9th

I will add updates as I hear them, and you can visit the Woosh website for more info.


Oh, yes, that is next weekend!

[gdjsky01]

Best launch name evah...

[chadrog]

Hats off to your wife on the food and drink front Shubz, she's gone above and beyond the call of duty! If you need any help with anything on that front, let me know. I'm sure my daughter (a scout herself) will be happy to help out as well.

[McKailas Dad]

Thanks Chad! The one thing I like as much as rockets, is food.

Yup, she and the Girl Scouts have it all planned out....

Muffins, coffee and juice will be served for breakfast.

How about lunch? Quarter pound and third pound burgers, hot dogs, brats, and corn on the cob! Assorted chips for munchies. Coffee, soda and water to wash it down, and cupcakes and cookies for desert.


Oh, did I mention there is a Woosh rocket launch, too?


As with all the launches at Bong, Tim, the Wildman Lehr will be the onsite Vendor.

I believe the range will be open both days from 9am to 5pm.

[Rex R]

nice promo jeff .
rex

[SMR]

Eat Cheese or Fly, (or, as John calls it, "Eat Cheese AND Fly"), is always a high point in the flying season. There are several recurring events to add to the festivities. The first is cheese lofting. For several years, we've lofted Gouda on G motors (duration), which led to potentially long recovery time commitments. in 2011, we switched to Edam cheese on E motors, to encourage MAXIMUM participation while keeping it fun, challenging yet not overly difficult, and to level the playing field for all rocketeers, whatever their certification level might be. So, here it is...

General guidelines for Jarosch Cup events

1. The Jarosch Cup is a traveling trophy, in honor and remembrance of Fred Jarosch, beloved long-time WOOSH member and avid rocketeer.
2. A rocketry contest will be held annually at the WOOSH Eat Cheese or Fly launch in August, to determine who will hold the Jarosch Cup for the following year.
3. The holder of the Cup shall be responsible for planning and hosting the contest for the following year.

The ECOF 2012 Jarosch Cup - Edam spot duration

1. In keeping with the fine Wisconsin tradition, recently adopted by Space-X, the Jarosch Cup competition, as well as ECOF in general, will remain a cheese-centric event.
2. Motors used in the 2012 Edam spot duration are limited to a maximum of 24mm diameter.

(a) larger motor mounts may be adapted down use to 24mm diameter motors.
(b) 24mm motor mounts may be further adapted down to allow the use of 18mm, 13mm or Micro Maxx motors, at the option of the flyer.

3. Rockets entered in 2012 Edam spot duration will only be flown on currently certified motors, with a maximum installed impulse of "E" motor or equivalent. (40 N-s).

(a) Flyers utilizing reloadable 24mm motors must assemble their motor on site, in the presence of a neutral adult from opening the sealed reload container until the rocket has been presented to the RSO, and must bring reload kit documentation to the RSO, to verify use of "E" motor reload.

4. There can be one rocket entered per registered flyer, and one qualifying flight per rocket. The qualifying flight will be identified in advance of said flight.

(a) Since there are no launch fees for "E" motors and below, all flyers can register individually. Family members may each make an independent / individual entry.

5. Recovery of rockets will be by streamer. A flag will be placed in the soft grass near the runway, with a 50ft circle flagged out around it.. Scoring will be by timed duration, with a spot landing bonus as follows... Three rockets, landing closest to the flag and within the flagged circle will get a time bonus. Rockets outside of the circle will not qualify for the bonus. The time bonus will be equal to 30%, 20%, and 10% of their duration time, respectively. This will be of some help to a very accurate but short flight, and much more help to an accurate, longer flight. It is up to the flyer to determine how he (she) will prioritize accuracy vs time aloft. (Think of it like shuffleboard... a well-placed flight can be used strategically.) This also avoids the apples to oranges comparison of points from the use of different scales, i.e. feet (distance from spot) and seconds (time aloft), and avoids judging official(s) spending the entire weekend trudging through miles of field to pace off each and every wayward rocket.
6. Flyer will be given a small sample of Edam cheese to fly in or attached to his (her) rocket. NOTE - While Gouda was the obvious choice for "G" powered boosters, in 2011 we will be using "E" motors and Edam cheese. John will personally smuggle sufficient quantities of this product in from Holland.
7. Duration timing will be from initial vertical movement at launch until the FIRST portion of the rocket touches ground, tree, automobile, etc. NOTE - this is a change from "G" gouda duration, where the Gouda capsule was the only section of the rocket that was timed. The Edam capsule is still allowed to separate from the main rocket, but the grounding of either section will stop the time. The cheese section, for those rockets that separate (intentionally or otherwise), will be the section measured for spot accuracy, regardless of which section was used for duration timing. Linear measurement will be made from the portion of the appropriate (cheese) section (rocket or streamer) closest to the flag. The entire rocket and the cheeses must be recovered and presented for scoring to qualify.
8. CHAD or any other form of multiple staging is allowed, at the option of the flyer. Bear in mind that this may impose a limitation due to the separation timing penalty in rule 7.
9. NAR Safety Code will be followed at all times. Flyer must be certified to the level of motor flown.

NOTE - Given the possibility that Jeroen at CTI comes up with an E90-Vmax (and I wouldn't put it past him), that would technically be a high power motor under NFPA 1127 para 3.3.15.1 (average thrust in excess of 80N.)

Added Note - when I originally wrote that rule, I was actually being a little tongue in cheek. CTI did then certify the E75, which I like to think was in direct response to my suggestion. )

In the fun column, I would like to add my thanks to Jeff Z. for developing the original "G" Gouda duration event, which we have used now for the last 4 ECOF's. This has been a great event at ECOF, open to all rocketeers and with simple rules to keep it fun. In the design of the trophy, he also had the foresight to allow for the event to change from year to year, as sometimes changing the novelty factor can renew interest. Next time you see Jeff (and we hope it is soon), give him a pat on the back and a heartfelt thanks for all of his ground work in this important and enduringly fun contest.

Cheers. Sather

[SMR]

The second recurring contest for WOOSH ECOF 2012 is the Kelly Engineering Challenge ----- "Upscale (Downscale) Anything Can Fly" -----

The logical progression from the WOOSH sod field event of the same (almost) name, the gist of which is to take anything other than a rocket, and make it fly. This is looking to be a fun event. We have a lot of creative rocketeers. I think 2009-11 only scratched the surface! The preliminary rules for 2012 are...

1. The rocket must feature a larger (or smaller) version of a commonly available non-rocketry item, hereafter referred to as the prototype. Like the crayon banks we flew in year one (2009), but in 2012 it doesn't have to be a crayon. Innovations in design are always encouraged. Family friendly theme mandatory. Remember the judge is a ten year old girl.
2. If the prototype item is smaller than 3 feet in all dimensions, (i.e. a salt shaker), then the rocket must be an upscaled version of it. Degree of difficulty points will include the magnitude of upscale. (The upscale is an engineer's challenge.)
3. If any dimension of the prototype item exceeds 3 feet, (i.e. the Eiffel Tower), then the rocket must be a downscaled version of it. Degree of difficulty points will include attention to details of the prototype preserved in the downscale. (The downscale is a modeler's challenge.)
4. The entry can't be a rocket she has seen before. (This appears to be a handicap specifically targeting me.)
5. The rocket must fly at ECOF in 2012, under thrust of allowed propellant (BP, APCP, or hybrid).
6. Rocketeer must be certified to level of combined motors flown. NAR safety code applies.
7. Only one qualifying flight is allowed per rocket. (While practice flights are allowed, the qualifying flight must be identified as such in advance.)
8. There is no restriction on number of rockets per participant. If a participant makes two or more qualifying rockets, he may register and fly each of them as an individual entry. However, individual participants may not "sweep" the awards. While it is possible that two or more entries from one flyer could score high enough to each qualify for an award, there will be only one award given to any individual participant. (i.e. only the highest scoring rocket from each participant will count for First, Second, and/or Third place awards.)

9. Points are cumulative, with a maximum possible total of 100 points. Scoring as follows...

20 points for innovation of design (theme, unique design features, unusual-ness of rocket)
20 points for degree of difficulty - includes magnitude of upscale (upscale only), attention to details (downscale only)
20 points for quality of build (finish, smooth transitions, fin fillets, motor retention, overall structural integrity)
20 points for quality of flight (stability, altitude, duration)
20 points for quality of recovery (recovery device deployment, lack of damage)

10. Rewards... In addition to eternal bragging rights, the winner gets an engraved trophy, with medals for 2nd and 3rd place. Honorable Mention(s) will be awarded for entries that truly merit additional recognition. (Thanks to a generous donation from Jay R., trophies in this and subsequent years have been upgraded.) All pre-registered participants get a nifty certificate suitable for framing. And the winner will receive a $50 gift certificate to Wildman Rocket Supply.

Challenge dates - Saturday, 28 July 2012 and Sunday, 29 July 2012

9:00 AM - tent and table setup
10:00 AM - group photo (bring your rocket)
10:00 AM to 12:00 AM - preflight judging (rockets together)
Innovation in Design - max of 20 points
Degree of Difficulty - max of 20 points
Quality of build - max of 20 points
12:00 AM to 3:00 PM - qualifying flights (thru Sunday if weather forecast acceptable)
Inflight points - Quality of flight - max of 20 points
Postflight points - Quality of recovery - max of 20 points
3:00 PM - 4:00 PM - point tabulation
4:00 PM - awards ceremony

Kelly Engineering Challenge Hall of Fame...

2012 - Upscale (Downscale) Anything Can Fly

1st place - Jay R. - Computer Cooling Fan on G64-W
2nd place - Sather R. - Swirly (ice cream cone) on J430-WT
3rd place - Walt E. - Match Stick on D12-5
Honorable Mention - Girl Scout Troop 1034 - Super Crayon on G54-R

2011 - Legged Landers

1st place - Sather R. - "12" Modular Booster with Vanessa Doofenshmirtz Legged Lander" (Phineas and Ferb characters in lander capsule) - L3150 Vmax.
2nd place - Ben W. and Tom K. (Team entry) - " Gladiator 1 and 2" (2 stage) - G76 to F52, timer for second stage ignition
3rd place - Joe K. and Walt E. (Team entry) - "Mars Lander" (2 stage) - D12-0 to C6-5
Honorable Mention - tie

- Jay R. - "Pad Abort Lander" - H170 - Perfect scores in Innovation in Design (20), Quality of Build (20), and Quality of Flight (20)
- Bill R. - "Miranda Mashup" - H120 - Perfect scores in Innovation in Design (20), Quality of Flight (20), and Quality of Recovery (20)

2010 - Strap-on Boosters

1st place - Jay R - "Delta 304 Gravity Probe" - I236 in core (Cesaroni Pro 38-3G)), with 6 x D12, 3 x E9 (9 boosters)
2nd place - Marc S - "Ultimate Ninja" - 6 x C6, 2 x A10, staged to D12
3rd place - Walt E - "Devil Dog" - H175 (Cesaroni Pro 29-4G) in core, 2 x F20-4 in boosters
Honorable Mention - Chad R - "Tres Daddy" - I154-J in core, 2 x F-39T in boosters

2009 - Crayons

1st place - Scott G - yellow crayon, CrayMarc missile on AeroTech J500-G (6 grain 38mm = 723.0 Ns) + 2 x airstarted AeroTech F52-T (each 73.0 Ns) = combined 869.0 Ns
2nd place - Jay R - red crayon, with 3 strap-on crayon boosters that deployed after burnout and had individual recovery systems. Cesaroni G69 Skidmark (1 grain 38mm = 121.1 Ns) + 6 x Estes D12-3 (each 16.8 Ns) = combined 221.9 Ns
3rd place - Marc S - yellow FAO Schwartz crayon on AeroTech I218-Redline (3 grain 38mm = 330.0 Ns)
Honorable Mention - Tim L - green crayon. Cesaroni K675 Skidmark (6 grain 54mm = 2009.6 Ns)

Cheers, Sather

[Eat, sleep, and Fly]

The second recurring contest for WOOSH ECOF 2012 is the Kelly Engineering Challenge ----- "Upscale (Downscale) Anything Can Fly" -----

The logical progression from the WOOSH sod field event of the same (almost) name, the gist of which is to take anything other than a rocket, and make it fly. This is looking to be a fun event. We have a lot of creative rocketeers. I think 2009-11 only scratched the surface! The preliminary rules for 2012 are...

1. The rocket must feature a larger (or smaller) version of a commonly available non-rocketry item, hereafter referred to as the prototype. Like the crayon banks we flew in year one (2009), but in 2012 it doesn't have to be a crayon. Innovations in design are always encouraged. Family friendly theme mandatory. Remember the judge is a ten year old girl.
2. If the prototype item is smaller than 3 feet in all dimensions, (i.e. a salt shaker), then the rocket must be an upscaled version of it. Degree of difficulty points will include the magnitude of upscale. (The upscale is an engineer's challenge.)
3. If any dimension of the prototype item exceeds 3 feet, (i.e. the Eiffel Tower), then the rocket must be a downscaled version of it. Degree of difficulty points will include attention to details of the prototype preserved in the downscale. (The downscale is a modeler's challenge.)
4. The entry can't be a rocket she has seen before. (This appears to be a handicap specifically targeting me.)
5. The rocket must fly at ECOF in 2012, under thrust of allowed propellant (BP, APCP, or hybrid).
6. Rocketeer must be certified to level of combined motors flown. NAR safety code applies.
7. Only one qualifying flight is allowed per rocket. (While practice flights are allowed, the qualifying flight must be identified as such in advance.)
8. There is no restriction on number of rockets per participant. If a participant makes two or more qualifying rockets, he may register and fly each of them as an individual entry. However, individual participants may not "sweep" the awards. While it is possible that two or more entries from one flyer could score high enough to each qualify for an award, there will be only one award given to any individual participant. (i.e. only the highest scoring rocket from each participant will count for First, Second, and/or Third place awards.)

9. Points are cumulative, with a maximum possible total of 100 points. Scoring as follows...

20 points for innovation of design (theme, unique design features, unusual-ness of rocket)
20 points for degree of difficulty - includes magnitude of upscale (upscale only), attention to details (downscale only)
20 points for quality of build (finish, smooth transitions, fin fillets, motor retention, overall structural integrity)
20 points for quality of flight (stability, altitude, duration)
20 points for quality of recovery (recovery device deployment, lack of damage)

10. Rewards... In addition to eternal bragging rights, the winner gets an engraved trophy, with medals for 2nd and 3rd place. Honorable Mention(s) will be awarded for entries that truly merit additional recognition. (Thanks to a generous donation from Jay R., trophies in this and subsequent years have been upgraded.) All pre-registered participants get a nifty certificate suitable for framing. And the winner will receive a $50 gift certificate to Wildman Rocket Supply.

Challenge dates - Saturday, 28 July 2012 and Sunday, 29 July 2012

9:00 AM - tent and table setup
10:00 AM - group photo (bring your rocket)
10:00 AM to 12:00 AM - preflight judging (rockets together)
Innovation in Design - max of 20 points
Degree of Difficulty - max of 20 points
Quality of build - max of 20 points
12:00 AM to 3:00 PM - qualifying flights (thru Sunday if weather forecast acceptable)
Inflight points - Quality of flight - max of 20 points
Postflight points - Quality of recovery - max of 20 points
3:00 PM - 4:00 PM - point tabulation
4:00 PM - awards ceremony

Kelly Engineering Challenge Hall of Fame...

2012 - Upscale (Downscale) Anything Can Fly

1st place -
2nd place -
3rd place -
Honorable Mention -

2011 - Legged Landers

1st place - Sather R. - "12" Modular Booster with Vanessa Doofenshmirtz Legged Lander" (Phineas and Ferb characters in lander capsule) - L3150 Vmax.
2nd place - Ben W. and Tom K. (Team entry) - " Gladiator 1 and 2" (2 stage) - G76 to F52, timer for second stage ignition
3rd place - Joe K. and Walt E. (Team entry) - "Mars Lander" (2 stage) - D12-0 to C6-5
Honorable Mention - tie

- Jay R. - "Pad Abort Lander" - H170 - Perfect scores in Innovation in Design (20), Quality of Build (20), and Quality of Flight (20)
- Bill R. - "Miranda Mashup" - H120 - Perfect scores in Innovation in Design (20), Quality of Flight (20), and Quality of Recovery (20)

2010 - Strap-on Boosters

1st place - Jay R - "Delta 304 Gravity Probe" - I236 in core (Cesaroni Pro 38-3G)), with 6 x D12, 3 x E9 (9 boosters)
2nd place - Marc S - "Ultimate Ninja" - 6 x C6, 2 x A10, staged to D12
3rd place - Walt E - "Devil Dog" - H175 (Cesaroni Pro 29-4G) in core, 2 x F20-4 in boosters
Honorable Mention - Chad R - "Tres Daddy" - I154-J in core, 2 x F-39T in boosters

2009 - Crayons

1st place - Scott G - yellow crayon, CrayMarc missile on AeroTech J500-G (6 grain 38mm = 723.0 Ns) + 2 x airstarted AeroTech F52-T (each 73.0 Ns) = combined 869.0 Ns
2nd place - Jay R - red crayon, with 3 strap-on crayon boosters that deployed after burnout and had individual recovery systems. Cesaroni G69 Skidmark (1 grain 38mm = 121.1 Ns) + 6 x Estes D12-3 (each 16.8 Ns) = combined 221.9 Ns
3rd place - Marc S - yellow FAO Schwartz crayon on AeroTech I218-Redline (3 grain 38mm = 330.0 Ns)
Honorable Mention - Tim L - green crayon. Cesaroni K675 Skidmark (6 grain 54mm = 2009.6 Ns)

Cheers, Sather

I guess I have to get working...

[Mad Bomber F/X]

Eat Cheese or Fly, (or, as John calls it, "Eat Cheese AND Fly"), is always a high point in the flying season. There are several recurring events to add to the festivities. The first is cheese lofting. For several years, we've lofted Gouda on G motors (duration), which led to potentially long recovery time commitments. in 2011, we switched to Edam cheese on E motors, to encourage MAXIMUM participation while keeping it fun, challenging yet not overly difficult, and to level the playing field for all rocketeers, whatever their certification level might be. So, here it is...

General guidelines for Jarosch Cup events

1. The Jarosch Cup is a traveling trophy, in honor and remembrance of Fred Jarosch, beloved long-time WOOSH member and avid rocketeer.
2. A rocketry contest will be held annually at the WOOSH Eat Cheese or Fly launch in August, to determine who will hold the Jarosch Cup for the following year.
3. The holder of the Cup shall be responsible for planning and hosting the contest for the following year.

The ECOF 2012 Jarosch Cup - Edam spot duration

1. In keeping with the fine Wisconsin tradition, recently adopted by Space-X, the Jarosch Cup competition, as well as ECOF in general, will remain a cheese-centric event.
2. Motors used in the 2012 Edam spot duration are limited to a maximum of 24mm diameter.

(a) larger motor mounts may be adapted down use to 24mm diameter motors.
(b) 24mm motor mounts may be further adapted down to allow the use of 18mm, 13mm or Micro Maxx motors, at the option of the flyer.

3. Rockets entered in 2012 Edam spot duration will only be flown on currently certified motors, with a maximum installed impulse of "E" motor or equivalent. (40 N-s).

(a) Flyers utilizing reloadable 24mm motors must assemble their motor on site, in the presence of a neutral adult from opening the sealed reload container until the rocket has been presented to the RSO, and must bring reload kit documentation to the RSO, to verify use of "E" motor reload.

4. There can be one rocket entered per registered flyer, and one qualifying flight per rocket. The qualifying flight will be identified in advance of said flight.

(a) Since there are no launch fees for "E" motors and below, all flyers can register individually. Family members may each make an independent / individual entry.

5. Recovery of rockets will be by streamer. A flag will be placed in the soft grass near the runway, with a 50ft circle flagged out around it.. Scoring will be by timed duration, with a spot landing bonus as follows... Three rockets, landing closest to the flag and within the flagged circle will get a time bonus. Rockets outside of the circle will not qualify for the bonus. The time bonus will be equal to 30%, 20%, and 10% of their duration time, respectively. This will be of some help to a very accurate but short flight, and much more help to an accurate, longer flight. It is up to the flyer to determine how he (she) will prioritize accuracy vs time aloft. (Think of it like shuffleboard... a well-placed flight can be used strategically.) This also avoids the apples to oranges comparison of points from the use of different scales, i.e. feet (distance from spot) and seconds (time aloft), and avoids judging official(s) spending the entire weekend trudging through miles of field to pace off each and every wayward rocket.
6. Flyer will be given a small sample of Edam cheese to fly in or attached to his (her) rocket. NOTE - While Gouda was the obvious choice for "G" powered boosters, in 2011 we will be using "E" motors and Edam cheese. John will personally smuggle sufficient quantities of this product in from Holland.
7. Duration timing will be from initial vertical movement at launch until the FIRST portion of the rocket touches ground, tree, automobile, etc. NOTE - this is a change from "G" gouda duration, where the Gouda capsule was the only section of the rocket that was timed. The Edam capsule is still allowed to separate from the main rocket, but the grounding of either section will stop the time. The cheese section, for those rockets that separate (intentionally or otherwise), will be the section measured for spot accuracy, regardless of which section was used for duration timing. Linear measurement will be made from the portion of the appropriate (cheese) section (rocket or streamer) closest to the flag. The entire rocket and the cheeses must be recovered and presented for scoring to qualify.
8. CHAD or any other form of multiple staging is allowed, at the option of the flyer. Bear in mind that this may impose a limitation due to the separation timing penalty in rule 7.
9. NAR Safety Code will be followed at all times. Flyer must be certified to the level of motor flown.

NOTE - Given the possibility that Jeroen at CTI comes up with an E90-Vmax (and I wouldn't put it past him), that would technically be a high power motor under NFPA 1127 para 3.3.15.1 (average thrust in excess of 80N.)

Added Note - when I originally wrote that rule, I was actually being a little tongue in cheek. CTI did then certify the E75, which I like to think was in direct response to my suggestion. )

In the fun column, I would like to add my thanks to Jeff Z. for developing the original "G" Gouda duration event, which we have used now for the last 4 ECOF's. This has been a great event at ECOF, open to all rocketeers and with simple rules to keep it fun. In the design of the trophy, he also had the foresight to allow for the event to change from year to year, as sometimes changing the novelty factor can renew interest. Next time you see Jeff (and we hope it is soon), give him a pat on the back and a heartfelt thanks for all of his ground work in this important and enduringly fun contest.

Cheers. Sather

Wow, now that's official! I like it when Manny makes the rules up. He's not nearly as thorough as you! He makes it much easier to cheat!

[mannyskid]

Wow, now that's official! I like it when Manny makes the rules up. He's not nearly as thorough as you! He makes it much easier to cheat!

That's the point

[SMR]

Countdown to Kelly's Challenge...

Since Rule #8 allows multiple entries, I though it might be fun to try and launch my entire fleet of odd hawks. Starting with..... (drum roll, please)

T minus 6 (units arbitrary)

"Hershey's Strawberry Syrup Jayhawk"

previously disqualified due to rule #4.

[SMR]

Countdown to Kelly's Challenge...

T minus 5 (units arbitrary)

"Crayhawk" (Crayola Jayhawk)

also previously disqualified due to rule #4.

(we're gonna have to have a discussion about allowance...)

[SMR]

Countdown to Kelly's Challenge...

T minus 4 (units arbitrary)

"JayCoke Zero" (recycling container)

also previously disqualified due to rule #4.

(somebody's gonna be grounded!)

[SMR]

Countdown to Kelly's Challenge

And the three new ones, built in secret. And, to add a little vice into the launch matrix, I am going to create a new contest out of it. Winner receives a $25 gift certificate to Public Missiles.

T minus 3

"Joey"

T minus 2

"Swirly"

T minus 1

"Grande Frappuccino"

Contest rules (simplified. Thanks, Gus)

• 1. Entry via personal email, PM, or sealed envelope. (no public, mailing list or thread guesses.) One guess per person.
• 2. The first person to correctly guess (a) what each of these are upscales (downscales) of, (b) what color each of them are, and (c) whether each of them are or are not a Jayhawk.
• 3. Contest ends at the big unveiling on the morning of the first day (Saturday) of the re-scheduled ECOF. (In the event of a tie, first entry received shall win. If there are no winning entries, the certificate will be donated to the ECOF raffle.)

Cheers.

Sather

[chadrog]

Countdown to Kelly's Challenge

And the three new ones, built in secret. And, to add a little vice into the launch matrix, I am going to create a new contest out of it. Winner receives a $25 gift certificate to Public Missiles.

T minus 3

"Joey"

T minus 2

"Swirly"

T minus 1

"Grande Frappuccino"

Contest rules (simplified. Thanks, Gus)

• 1. Entry via personal email, PM, or sealed envelope. (no public, mailing list or thread guesses.) One guess per person.
• 2. The first person to correctly guess (a) what each of these are upscales (downscales) of, (b) what color each of them are, and (c) whether each of them are or are not a Jayhawk.
• 3. Contest ends at the big unveiling on the morning of 28 July. (In the event of a tie, first entry received shall win. If there are no winning entries, the certificate will be donated to the ECOF raffle.)

Cheers.

Sather

Thought I had it, is not to be.

[chadrog]

ECOF 2012 flyer.

[SMR]

this just in from the WOOSH mailing list... the ECOF July launch has been postponed due to the burn ban. We'll hope for rain and keep our fingers crossed to be able to have it in conjunction with our scheduled August or September launch. Please refer to the WOOSH web page for updates.

P.S. I'm still gonna honor the "guess the rocket" contest mentioned in post #14. No penalty for incorrect guesses.

Sather

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I need to give everybody a heads up here, I know that this has been on everybody’s mind with the super dry weather conditions here in SE Wisconsin.

********* The NOAA weather service has upgraded our drought conditions to D2 (severe).
********* A burn ban is now in place for the entire Bong Recreational Area.

If we have a launch we would have to ban sparkys and let’s say the launch goes without any major fires*one could*say we would be very lucky and extremely foolish.

So here we go, I’m making the call, unless*this extremely dry condition lifts at Bong we must cancel ECOF.

At this time no significant rain fall is expected before ECOF. Keep in mind that even if we get a really good gully washer the existing dead dry grass will remain,*with the current conditions all it would take to start a major blaze is*a small “A” impulse to land in the grass, light off its ejection charge and we*would have a very dangerous situation to deal with.

[McKailas Dad]

What are the dates of the August launch?

[chadrog]

I think September would be the most viable option, let's call it postponed, not cancelled. I'll take a case of burgers if you need to unload them Jeff.

[SMR]

ECOF July launch has been postponed due to the burn ban. We'll hope for rain and keep our fingers crossed to be able to have it in conjunction with our scheduled August or September launch. Please refer to the WOOSH web page for updates.

P.S. I'm still gonna honor the "guess the rocket" contest mentioned in post #14. No penalty for incorrect guesses.

Two quick things...

(a) Whenever ECOF is, I'm still gonna honor the "guess the rocket" contest mentioned in post #14. So far, zero entries. Therefore, anyone can win just by making a guess. No penalty for incorrect guesses.

(b) Trophies for Kelly's Challenge are finished. Due to a generous donation by Jay, we have made some upgrades - from medals to trophies, and the quality of the trophies - for all awards. Since ECOF is delayed somewhat, still time to cobble something together and join the fun. Rules are in Post #7.

Sather

[SMR]

Whenever ECOF is, I'm still gonna honor the "guess the rocket" contest mentioned in post #14.

Oooooh, oooooh, oooooh. We have had our first entry in "Guess the Rockets". Out of a possible 9 points, he has 2.5. (Still possible to beat that, but he currently holds first place.)

[SMR]

The victory dance has been cut short, and quickly. Our second contestant received 4.0 points out of a possible 9.0, and has taken the lead.

[jd2cylman]

Sooo............. Is this gonna happen next weekend(Aug 18-19)? Is that the (semi) official word?

Adrian

[chadrog]

Sooo............. Is this gonna happen next weekend(Aug 18-19)? Is that the (semi) official word?

Adrian

Negative. The event has been officially rescheduled to September 8/9.

[jd2cylman]

Thanks!

Hopefully I'll see you there and we can compare Jarts!

Adrian

[GRIFFIN]

Thanks!

Hopefully I'll see you there and we can compare Jarts!

Adrian

I don't know Adrian, that kinda sounds like a "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" kinda thing. I will have my Jart there as well. I'm sure drag races will be had.....Mine fits a 6 grain case....and is stable.

[mannyskid]

I can't go I have ACT testing and hockey boot camp that week end. I was hoping to have my L3 rocket ready to show off. Oh well......

[chadrog]

Mine can do six as well, the one shown below is not mine...

[jd2cylman]

Well,

I like finding my rockets with out digging

I'm probably gonna stay a little conservative and stop at three grains. I do have the 29/360 case, but it only goes in fat heavy rockets.

Adrian

[McKailas Dad]

ECOF has been officially rescheduled for September 8th and 9th.

Yes, the Girl Scouts will be there!


Who's going?