For me, I appreciate the fact that you're willing to offer the plans, and let those of us with the tools and know-how make our own. My thought is even if I don't get around to making one, it's not costing me much, and it's giving you extra compensation for your efforts.
I bet with some minor mods, it could also double as a jig for doing fin slots with a router!
I agree I rather see Ted make more money. In fact Ted I might just buy some plans off you as well. You're good people!
If pigs had wings and could fly....would they get stuck in trees??
Estes charges $53.99 for a package of three E9 or E12 engines. Hobbylinc charges $15.99 for the same items, a difference of $38/package. But if you buy 12-18 packages at a time, Estes will knock off $30/package. That still translates to $23.99/package and is still higher than what Hobbylinc charges. (I think Hobbylinc adds HAZMAT charges but I could be wrong, It happens.)
The point is, when you buy in bulk quantities the price goes down and shipping costs are a huge part of this. And when you make and ship multiples of anything, the price also goes down, allowing the retailer to pay overhead and, hopefully, generate a profit.
I am not inclined to bite the hand that feeds me.
Tim Van Milligan suggested this very thing (a modification to the Guillotine for routing slots) and the result was the Rocket Slot Machine. I experimented with various ideas for an "add-on" to the Guillotine and just couldn't come up with a viable solution. However, the Rocket Slot Machine can be equipped with fin alignment rails and will do it all for the legions of high power fanatics. These babies weigh in at about 26 pounds each (unassembled) and don't come with the angles. La costa plenti!
Last edited by tmacklin; 10th August 2012 at 09:31 PM.
Yes, that's my contraption as well. I was building parts yesterday until the heat forced me back into the AC. It was 108 at DFW airport. This thing is intended for the serious rocketeer building (and crashing) serious rocket airframes. If you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it.
In this hobby alone, I've seen too many vendors get in with thin margins, hoping to grow their businesses into money making endeavors, only to quit after investing lots of time, effort and money, with little to show for it.
Frankly, when I realized how naive it was to think about starting out with thin or no margins and trying to grow the biz from there, it was an epiphany of sorts. Either sell something you can profit off of, or keep looking for something else to manufacture/sell. But if you're not making money on the front end, it's not gonna come to you later, either. That only happens for people who can spend millions and millions, and wait for years and years for markets to develop, and even then, plenty of those guys don't last, either.
So, if you're complaining about Tim's prices, or anyone else's prices, it's a good bet you don't really understand business!
Last edited by plano-doug; 11th August 2012 at 03:31 PM.
This is a "heads up" for anyone sending a money order.
In addition to the "pay to the order of" blank, there is also a blank for the "name of purchaser". Without that blank filled in by you, the recipient will encounter problems cashing it. I don't recall ever having to comply with such a requirement, but comply I did.
I think it's "The Golden Rule" again. HE WHO HAS THE GOLD MAKES THE RULES
Got my signed plans from Ted some time ago, can't wait to build the device this winter. Maybe I can find some improvements, maybe not. Maybe I'll be lucky to build it nicely. Either way, can't wait to get started.
I think you will find that there is nothing magic about building this device. The key is to keep everything as perfectly centered as possible and the cuts as straight, parallel and smooth as possible. I suggest you obtain a sheet of foambord from your local Hobby Lobby or Michael's outlet and fabricate a mock-up using an Exacto knife, straight edge, push pins and Elmers glue. Obviously, this mock-up wouldn't have the durability needed for the actual tool, but it would give you a clear idea of how the thing works and be relatively inexpensive. And it would bolster your enthusiasm to proceed with the real thing.
Last edited by tmacklin; 20th August 2012 at 04:30 PM.
In case you are interested, Apogee is now listing the upscaled version of the Guillotine on their site.
Looks very nice, Ted. Maybe after the deployment. I need a bigger shop.
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