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    In need of a 12 step program...

    I decided to do an inventory...

    # Type Kit Description Scale Kit # Manufacturer Status

    0 Rocket ASROC 0-Needed
    0 Rocket Saturn V 1:70ish scale 1:70 0-Needed
    1 Balsa Plane 1903 Wright Flyer Kit 1201 Guillow 1-Unbuilt
    2 Balsa Plane Fokker DR-1 Tri-Plane Kit 204 Guillow 1-Unbuilt
    3 Balsa Plane P-38L Lighting Kit 2001 Guillow 1-Unbuilt
    4 Balsa Plane P-40 Warhawk Kit 501 Guillow 1-Unbuilt
    5 Balsa Plane P-51 Mustang Kit 402 Guillow 1-Unbuilt
    6 Balsa Plane Supermarine Spitfire Mk-1 1:27 Kit 504 Guillow 1-Unbuilt
    7 Balsa Plane Shoestring CL-13 Sig Mfg 1-Unbuilt
    8 Plastic Model USS Spruance 1:700 7084 Dragon 1-Unbuilt
    9 Plastic Model AH-64A Apache No 159 Italeria 1-Unbuilt
    10 Plastic Model F-14D Super Tomcat 1:48 85-4729 Revell 1-Unbuilt
    11 Plastic Model F-84G Thunderjet 1:48 85-5481 Revell 1-Unbuilt
    12 Plastic Model P-38J Lightning 1:48 85-5479 Revell 1-Unbuilt
    13 Plastic Model P-61 Black Widow 1:48 85-7546 Revell 1-Unbuilt
    14 Plastic Model 75mm Anti-tank gun 35047-1200 Tamiya 1-Unbuilt
    15 Rocket Delta III 18mm n/a DFR Technologies 1-Unbuilt
    16 Rocket Delta IV 4+2 n/a DFR Technologies 1-Unbuilt
    17 Rocket Delta IV Heavy 24 mm n/a DFR Technologies 1-Unbuilt
    18 Rocket Ares I-X n/a Dr. Zooch 1-Unbuilt
    19 Rocket Explorer I Jupiter C n/a Dr. Zooch 1-Unbuilt
    20 Rocket Little Joe n/a Dr. Zooch 1-Unbuilt
    21 Rocket Centurion T-25 R/C Glider EST 2201 Estes 1-Unbuilt
    22 Rocket Outlander EST 2110 Estes 1-Unbuilt
    23 Rocket Saturn V - Apollo 11 1:100 Est 2157 Estes 1-Unbuilt
    24 Rocket L-13 SC004 Fliskits 1-Unbuilt
    25 Rocket Nell SC003 Fliskits 1-Unbuilt
    26 Rocket Thing-a-ma-Jig SP015 Fliskits 1-Unbuilt
    27 Rocket Big Nuke w/avionics bay PK-82 LOC Precision 1-Unbuilt
    28 Rocket Vulcanite PK-52 LOC Precision 1-Unbuilt
    29 Rocket Future Launch Vehicle 3013 Quest 1-Unbuilt
    30 Rocket MLAS 3014 Quest 1-Unbuilt
    31 Rocket Astron Spaceman KA-23 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    32 Rocket Defender Space Probe KV-60 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    33 Rocket Hydra VIII KV-29 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    34 Rocket Little Joe II KS-3 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    35 Rocket Orbital Transport KV-66 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    36 Rocket Point KV-58 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    37 Rocket SST Shuttle - 1 KV-72 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    38 Rocket Swift Boost Glider KV-27 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    39 Rocket Trident KV-71 Semroc 1-Unbuilt
    40 Rocket Harpoon (AGM-84A) 1:5.2 K012 The Launch Pad 1-Unbuilt
    41 Rocket Sparrow (AIM-7F) 1:3 K057 The Launch Pad 1-Unbuilt
    42 Balsa Plane B-17G Flying Fortress Kit 2002 Guillow 2-Building
    43 Plastic Model B-29 Super Fortress 1:48 85-5711 Revell 2-Building
    44 Plastic Model F/A-18 Hornet 1:48 85-5850 Revell 2-Building
    45 Rocket Space Trooper EST 3031 Estes 2-Building
    46 Rocket AMRAAM 3 1:2.35 n/a Public Missiles, Ltd. 2-Building
    47 Rocket Hawk Boost Glider KV-65 Semroc 2-Building
    48 Rocket Saturn IB 1:70 KS-1 Semroc 2-Building
    49 Rocket Eliminator EST 1950 Estes 3-Ready for flight
    50 Rocket Ionizer EST 1812 Estes 3-Ready for flight
    51 Rocket Mean Machine EST 1295 Estes 3-Ready for flight
    52 Rocket Mercury Redstone EST 2167 Estes 3-Ready for flight
    53 Rocket Scissor Wing Transport EST 1265 Estes 3-Ready for flight
    54 Rocket UP Aerospace EST 1793 Estes 3-Ready for flight
    55 Rocket Whatchamacallit SP017 Fliskits 3-Ready for flight
    56 Rocket Stretched Whatchamacallit SP017 Kit bash (Fliskits) 3-Ready for flight
    57 Rocket Powermaster (24mm x2 cluster) n/a Scratch built 3-Ready for flight
    58 Rocket Robbie's 3FNC n/a Scratch built 3-Ready for flight
    59 Rocket Transparent Rocket (Teaching Aid) n/a Scratch built 3-Ready for flight
    60 Rocket Fiesta 10030 Custom Rockets 3-Ready for flight
    61 Rocket V-2 (3.9") PK-57 LOC Precision 4-Repairs
    62 Rocket Tube Fin w/ engine pod n/a Scratch built 4-Repairs
    63 Rocket Mars Lander KV-54 Semroc 4-Repairs
    64 Rocket X-15 1:44 EST 1890 Estes 5-Retired

    There are more ready to fly I just have to complete the inventory. But this is most of them.
    Last edited by Shade; 4th March 2012 at 05:15 AM.
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    The only problem I see from the above is: "0 N-s flown this year".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dixontj93060 View Post
    The only problem I see from the above is: "0 N-s flown this year".
    I'll add the following as a problem

    I decided to do an inventory...
    Why on earth would you do such a thing?! That's time spent that could've spent building rockets, flying rockets, or acquiring more kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixontj93060 View Post
    The only problem I see from the above is: "0 N-s flown this year".
    You are correct.

    As you are well aware of we did not have a winter this year,
    winds have been high, and mud is prevalent. But the range
    box is ready, and engine stocks are high.

    Quote Originally Posted by troj View Post
    Why on earth would you do such a thing?! That's time spent
    that could've spent building rockets, flying rockets, or acquiring
    more kits.

    -Kevin
    I was killing time while paint was drying on the AMRAAM 3 and
    the V-2; glue was drying on the B-17G and the Saturn IB; my
    son was waiting on the paint to dry on his B-29; it was dark
    outside with high winds and the hobby stores were closed and
    I had already seen the rerun of The Big Bang Theory...

    The list includes the models that both of my sons are working on too.
    Last edited by Shade; 3rd March 2012 at 03:24 PM.
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    Total Ns flown last year: 270.6
    (I gotta fix that problem...)

    Total Ns flown this year: 67.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    it was dark
    outside with high winds and the hobby stores were closed and
    I had already seen the rerun of The Big Bang Theory...

    The list includes the models that both of my sons are working on too.
    Just make sure your wife never, ever sees that list.

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    What is the B-17G gonna fly on??? Estes or Aerotech?

    The one I am working on will fly on four Wright Cyclone R-1820.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troj View Post
    Just make sure your wife never, ever sees that list.

    -Kevin
    I don't go out of my way to show it to her. However there is an equation
    that I have to keep in mind.

    Rockets + Planes + Guns (- the kid's ones) <= Animals (Current population: 2 steers, 3 horses, 80ish chickens, 9 ducks, 2 dogs, 5 cats)

    Right now I have have some cushion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus-cat View Post
    What is the B-17G gonna fly on??? Estes or Aerotech?
    The B-17 will be a wall hanger. I am thinking of installing electric motors in
    the P-38 (Guillow's model) and full R/C when I get to it. Likely not for a few
    years with some pending major house projects.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus-cat View Post
    The one I am working on will fly on four Wright Cyclone R-1820.
    Wha chu talking about Willis?!?

    Seriously? Way cool.
    Last edited by Shade; 3rd March 2012 at 08:29 PM.
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    Total Ns flown this year: 67.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    The B-17 will be a wall hanger. I am thinking of installing electric motors in the P-38 (Guillow's model) and full R/C when I get to it. Likely not for a few years with some pending major house projects.


    Wha chu talking about Willis?!?

    Seriously? Way cool.
    Here is a link to the museum website. Several of us just finished making the pilot's seats and three of the seats inside the fuselage. That took two years working a few hours most Thursday nights. One of the seats we made is going to be installed in the Memphis Belle. We sometimes trade parts with the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force which is about 40 miles away.

    Last Thursday we started on some ribs for the elevators. I think we have a dozen to make; all different sizes of course.

    http://champaignaviationmuseum.com/HOME.php
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    Total Impulse for 2012: 1,689 N/s

    Total Impulse for 2013: 795 N/s

    A:6, B:5, C:19 D:15, E:4 F:0, G:0, H:1, I:0
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    Well HERE's the problem...

    Rocket Big Nuke w/avionics bay PK-82 LOC Precision 1-Unbuilt
    Rocket Vulcanite PK-52 LOC Precision 1-Unbuilt

    Big rockets....take up space...expensive to fly...

    Vanquish them to some poor soul that hasn't REALIZED that they need a 12 step program yet...

    REALLY, I'M FINE
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpummil View Post
    Well HERE's the problem...

    Rocket Big Nuke w/avionics bay PK-82 LOC Precision 1-Unbuilt
    Rocket Vulcanite PK-52 LOC Precision 1-Unbuilt

    Big rockets....take up space...expensive to fly...

    Vanquish them to some poor soul that hasn't REALIZED that they need a 12 step program yet...

    REALLY, I'M FINE
    Ummm, nice try... I will give you and A for effort.

    The Big Nuke is going to be my L3, which is a little more than optimistic
    since I have yet to get L1...
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    When The Government fears The People there is Liberty.
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    Total Ns flown last year: 270.6
    (I gotta fix that problem...)

    Total Ns flown this year: 67.0

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    Haha! Just messin' with ya Ron

    Your TRF audience will anxiously await build threads of both
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    12 steps

    I think there more than 12 steps to building a rocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwbullet View Post
    I think there more than 12 steps to building a rocket.
    I'm just waiting to see how all those kits get built in 12-steps...

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