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    It's Huge! (Carpet Tube)

    My friend's dad got this tube that a carpet was wrapped around. It is about 4 1/4" in diameter, and about 8 feet long! Maybe an inch on each end is unusable due to being crumpled, but that could be trimmed off. It weighs in at about 4 pounds, so it isn't too heavy. What should we do with it?
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    Put a 54 in it and watch it go by by!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasonH View Post
    Put a 54 in it and watch it go by by!
    pffft

    98mm minimum diameter...or at least 75mm




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    Upscaled Mean Machine, or would this just be a fatter version?
    Plays with wood, cardboard, and carpenters glue at home.

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    ....roll up your carpet?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymye View Post
    your thread title sucks .. I don't like having to open a thread(and I'm not alone) to have any clue what its about ..... get with the program bro
    most people here know better
    Wow!! kinda harsh, don't ya think?
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    look thru the forum .. most people try to make the title , reflect the question or post .... yes I am being harsh.
    it common courtesy... is that too much to ask ?
    Last edited by Stymye; 20th February 2012 at 01:16 AM.
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    Holy crap, frank. Just mouse over the thread title for a preview. You've been a member here for about 3 years, I would imagine that you knew that little trick.

    BTW, sweet tube. Bigger Bertha perhaps?
    Raw toast is an excellent alternative to bread.

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    Sounds like it will make a good carrier for the rails you're planning to get.

    Or you could fly it.

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    I said my piece , and have been a member since 2004 ...lol

    I am a curmudgeon, dag nab it... so give me a break
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    I see a 4in tube fin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymye View Post
    your thread title sucks ..
    "It's Huge " ????
    I don't like having to open a thread(and I'm not alone) to have any clue what its about ..... get with the program bro
    most people here know better

    it's called forum respect
    and I'm not afraid to call it out
    at over 800 posts ... you should know better .
    Yeah.....All YOU have to do is put your curser over the title and you see the first few sentences.....There is want this thread is about.


    As for the tube, is it straight because I have one like that before and it was warped like crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymye View Post
    your thread title sucks ..
    "It's Huge " ????
    I don't like having to open a thread(and I'm not alone) to have any clue what its about ..... get with the program bro
    most people here know better

    it's called forum respect
    and I'm not afraid to call it out
    at over 800 posts ... you should know better .
    Happy now?
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    Us cranky old men need love, too!

    Put three motor pods on the outside of the tube mounted in the fins and leave the center open. No nose cone.

    It will be a 3 or 4F0NC. Name it "Core Sampler".
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    Quote Originally Posted by o1d_dude View Post
    Us cranky old men need love, too!

    Put three motor pods on the outside of the tube mounted in the fins and leave the center open. No nose cone.

    It will be a 3 or 4F0NC. Name it "Core Sampler".
    Ooooo Im likeing that!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRIFFIN View Post
    Wow!! kinda harsh, don't ya think?
    I agree with the previous poster. Please make the titles of your threads make some sense!! You f' up searches as well.. A better title that would actually HELP in the future is "what to make from a tall 4 in diameter carpet tube?" why is that too much to ask??
    Plus it helps everyone else that comes along with a "huge one" perhaps not waste their time posting about something covered. It makes TRF just that much more useful.

    Not harsh. Help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymye View Post
    look thru the forum .. most people try to make the title , reflect the question or post .... yes I am being harsh.
    it common courtesy... is that too much to ask ?
    Yes .... courtesy ..... and you failed

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    Got one to

    I have one also, Mine is 6 foot and straight, After all said and done... It should be around 5 and half feet.

    The question I have is what do you use to coat the outside of it with to keep it from becoming fuzzy? I can see the primer sucking into the tube to the point where sanding is only going to make it a flying hair ball....

    Any ideas?

    Thanks

    Tom

    P.S. Im open to suggestions as long as its 3 fins...

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    .. what's your plan for a nose cone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPVegh View Post
    Upscaled Stormcaster? Vagabond? A giant Superbird?
    Ohhhh Vagabond ... 2 thumbs up

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUTommy View Post
    I have one also, Mine is 6 foot and straight, After all said and done... It should be around 5 and half feet.

    The question I have is what do you use to coat the outside of it with to keep it from becoming fuzzy? I can see the primer sucking into the tube to the point where sanding is only going to make it a flying hair ball....

    Any ideas?

    Thanks

    Tom

    P.S. Im open to suggestions as long as its 3 fins...
    Epoxy thinned with denatured alcohol. Paint it on, let it dry and sand it smooth. I did this with a piece of 5.25" carpet core and it came out really nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymye View Post
    .. what's your plan for a nose cone?
    Balsa wood. Home-made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUTommy View Post
    The question I have is what do you use to coat the outside of it with to keep it from becoming fuzzy? I can see the primer sucking into the tube to the point where sanding is only going to make it a flying hair ball....

    Any ideas?

    Thanks

    Tom

    P.S. Im open to suggestions as long as its 3 fins...
    At least you've got a good name for it. Sounds like the thinned epoxy will be the way to go. Then people will wonder about the name even more.

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    The thinned epoxy works great. I've used this on every cardboard coupler tube.

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    Tube launcher?

    Use it for a LPR tube launcher

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    The tube might be suitable to make a scale rocket of either of these two:

    http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/corporal.htm

    http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/viking.htm

    They were thin, tall rockets. There were two versions of the Viking. One was upgraded and became a bit fatter and shorter than the original with a different fin plan.
    Click the pic to go to the MSRS, Inc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUTommy View Post
    ... The question I have is what do you use to coat the outside of it with to keep it from becoming fuzzy? I can see the primer sucking into the tube to the point where sanding is only going to make it a flying hair ball....

    Any ideas?

    Thanks

    Tom

    P.S. Im open to suggestions as long as its 3 fins...
    I'd also consider a hi-build spray on primer. Much less messy than epoxy.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggplant View Post
    My friend's dad got this tube that a carpet was wrapped around. It is about 4 1/4" in diameter, and about 8 feet long! Maybe an inch on each end is unusable due to being crumpled, but that could be trimmed off. It weighs in at about 4 pounds, so it isn't too heavy. What should we do with it?
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    The thinned epoxy might sound like a PIA but it is actually easy to do.
    Home Despot and Lowes have those cheap "Chip" brushes (throw away)
    If you try to just prime it, you will see TONS (cans) of primer being sucked up into the cardboard. The epoxy dries thin and is easily sandable. It is easy with 1/1 ratio hobby epoxy and also with the West System and equivalent pump system that meters out the correct amount.
    The challenge is doing the nose cone to fit..(Foam..balsa) and you will have to cut your own centering rings to fit with a fly cutter or have someone make them to your measured specs.

    OK old school here..

    Jim Scarpine.."jimzcatz" (when he was a young pup) did a crazy rocket called "Star Rider"
    Most have only heard of "Star Leopard"..(Braden take note, and ask him for old photos for the website)
    with a 8"-9"carpet tube with a 4" nosecone/transition.
    He launched it on a Vulcan single use L-750 Hellfire.

    He is currently addicted to fiberglass airframes but still breaks those sometimes.
    The L-750 is obviously the top motor.(There is a cardboard Estes BP motor instead of a quarter for scale!)
    Maybe Jim saved his as a trophy of sorts?
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