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    Quote Originally Posted by jadebox View Post
    I agree. It's more important to ensure that the recovery system deploys during the flight.

    I think, though, it is important to keep people away from the rocket as the electronics are turned on. I often see people (including kids) who aren't directly involved hanging around while we are setting up our rockets. I think we need to be careful and do more about controlling that.

    I had the ejection charges go off on the pad when I was setting up a 12-foot rocket. As I disconnected the altimeter after it beeped out the wrong number of connections, the main charge fired and the nosecone shot a few feet in the air. It fell between the two people helping me set up the rocket. It had a couple of pounds of weight in it, so it could have caused a serious injury if it had hit them or me. A second later, the apogee charge blew separating the main part of the rocket and covering me with black soot. I was standing atop a six-foot ladder while all this happened. Fortunately, no one was hurt.

    Now, I ask everyone else to step away as I arm the altimeter.

    -- Roger
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    Was that last month at LDRS? Sounds eerily familiar to the Pad next to mine...

    Quote Originally Posted by jadebox View Post
    I agree. It's more important to ensure that the recovery system deploys during the flight.

    I think, though, it is important to keep people away from the rocket as the electronics are turned on. I often see people (including kids) who aren't directly involved hanging around while we are setting up our rockets. I think we need to be careful and do more about controlling that.

    I had the ejection charges go off on the pad when I was setting up a 12-foot rocket. As I disconnected the altimeter after it beeped out the wrong number of connections, the main charge fired and the nosecone shot a few feet in the air. It fell between the two people helping me set up the rocket. It had a couple of pounds of weight in it, so it could have caused a serious injury if it had hit them or me. A second later, the apogee charge blew separating the main part of the rocket and covering me with black soot. I was standing atop a six-foot ladder while all this happened. Fortunately, no one was hurt.

    Now, I ask everyone else to step away as I arm the altimeter.

    -- Roger

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    Well, I'm glad this bit of madness has been resolved. Never trusted mercury switches anyway! Kudos and generous thanks to those who howled, screamed, cajoled, whined wimpered, moaned, begged and/or pleaded, expounded lustily, questioned incredulously, or gave grievous thought and considered oratory support to our respected board members to help with our cause. TRF=Totally Reasonable Fanaticism!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5x7 View Post
    Was that last month at LDRS? Sounds eerily familiar to the Pad next to mine...
    No. It was about two years ago at a NEFAR launch.

    It's hard to believe that I've been building (and rebuilding) that rocket for over two years. :-)

    Video: http://www.rocketreviews.com/youbee-...-ejection.html

    -- Roger
    Last edited by jadebox; 8th August 2012 at 03:10 AM.

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    I have an idea. Why don't we start a new thread to show the alternative with strengths and weaknesses to options that are still "legal"?
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    Level 3 - 10 inch Nike Smoke
    Ns for Year: 0 on hiatus serving our GREAT country in Kuwait
    My rockets usually fly naked. If they survive, they earn their paint.

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    NAhhh-sounds too scientific! Besides it would take away research effort from my new Coke and Mentos staging timer, the "Fizz an' Fly".......I'll be listing the kit here first!
    All persons, living or dead, are purely coincidental-Vonnegut
    97% of the time, I'm right-the other 5% doesn't bother me.
    There comes a point in your life that looks just like all the other points you didn't notice either.
    If I had a nickel for every dollar I spent on rockets, I'd have more rockets.
    You may have had more fun in your life than me, but the chaos was undeniable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadebox View Post
    No. It was about two years ago at a NEFAR launch.

    It's hard to believe that I've been building (and rebuilding) that rocket for over two years. :-)

    Video: http://www.rocketreviews.com/youbee-...-ejection.html

    -- Roger
    Did you ever find out the cause for the early deployment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSenesy View Post
    Did you ever find out the cause for the early deployment?
    It was one of those cases where it took multiple little problems to cause the big problem. The altimeter had a bad pressure sensor and there was something wrong in its firmware.

    Since then, I also test altimeters before I use them and periodically after that. I use a simple vacuum chamber based on the one in the article at:

    http://www.2020vertical.com/nar_edu_...lt_chamber.doc

    -- Roger

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