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    Streamer in a mini Darkstar?

    Is it acceptable to run a streamer in a mini Darkstar? A hefty G will send it up quite aways, and I get enough exercise running my own rockets down.

    Would a streamer work? and if so what kind and where to get it?

    Sam
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    Hi Sam
    What is the Darkstars weight? We at Top Flight Recovery LLC will make you any size streamer you may need.
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    In addition, you might also consider a small Top Flight X-form; they work quite well.
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    I use one. Top Flight 7"x70".

    Falls like a rock but comes back instead of floating away.

    Even with the streamer, have to walk a bit when flying G's.
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    What I have found like Greg says the rocket drops very fast. So you don't get that drift back effect. If rocket weather cocks you wil still need to walk a little. We do make a XT10 or we can make you a XT15 If you feel our XT18 is to big.
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    That sounds good. I just got home and threw the mini on the scale, 13 oz dry. still needs filets and paint.
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    I fly mine with one of Gary's 4in by 60in [if I remember dimensions right.]

    It makes ALL the difference in the world in drift on flights that go 6-7,000 ft. when you pop it at the top. [which is what I do]

    A WORD OF CAUTION HERE........

    I have flown 6 grain loads in it & it;s pretty heavy, even with G's it's over a lb.
    A pound falling like a rock... well you know.

    After having it go through a pop up and folding chair like butter, make sure to angle your flight a few degrees away from the flight line so that doesn't happen. Had someone been hit,it would have been ugly.
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    Hello JIm
    If it was a 60" streamer it would be 6"X60" Have you ever set one of mini's up with DD?
    A lot of the time I like to keep a rocket as simple as possible. A tracker really cuts down on the recovery time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossfire View Post
    Hello JIm
    If it was a 60" streamer it would be 6"X60" Have you ever set one of mini's up with DD?
    A lot of the time I like to keep a rocket as simple as possible. A tracker really cuts down on the recovery time.
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    No never DD. I got one of those 20.00 read only Adept Altimeters to see how high it goes. I figured why bother with DD it would just add too much weight, make it longer ....take to long to prep etc.

    I have several glass rockets that I like to fly motor eject. makes flying fun.

    Like ya said just put a tracker in it, screw in a motor and fly it. I do this all the time with a Gimzo and one of your 24in X chutes.
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    Thanks for the info, I'll be placing an order for both a streamer and a small x-form chute..... and twist the turnbuckle a couple turns away from the parking lot.
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    Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but I've been looking at flying my Darkstar Mini on larger 29mm loads - the CTI H399 really calls to me - and I can't help but notice that even with the max motor eject delays, Rocksim predicts deployment velocities up around 150 - 200 fps for most of the higher impulse H and all I loads... I've got a 60x6" streamer, so I'm assuming that will help to lessen the deployment shock to the rocket a bit, but this still concerns me. Any successful motor eject flights of a Darkstar Mini on AT I200, CTI I243, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weboide View Post
    Any successful motor eject flights of a Darkstar Mini on AT I200, CTI I243, etc?
    Yep.... no sweat using the aforementioned steamer... expect around 7000ft.
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    AI thought about DD, but Jim talked me out of it. Mine will use a steamer also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack2564 View Post
    Yep.... no sweat using the aforementioned steamer... expect around 7000ft.
    Perfect, I've got an H399 that's been staring at me for a while. It will be the maiden flight, too

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    On a similar note I have the wild child and wondering how to recover it without using a tracker, which I do not have. Was thinking of a small 8 in parachue and streamer combo. Thoughts?

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    I've seen people use tracking chalk (chalk-line chalk) and binoculars successfully, but they had also been tracking small high altitude rockets like that for probably 20+ years. If you don't have access to someone like that who would be willing to track it for you... Reflective Mylar streamer, and hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SacEsq View Post
    On a similar note I have the wild child and wondering how to recover it without using a tracker, which I do not have. Was thinking of a small 8 in parachue and streamer combo. Thoughts?



    What size motors are we talking about here? F's + G's your OK. But if you stick 4-6 grain motors in it.......................................

    If you fly in wide open playa [ I see you reside in Cali.] & ya ain't going over 3-4000 on a dead calm day,fair to midland.

    If you're stick'n it to it ,& hammering hard...... other than pure luck, not a snowballs chance in He$$ with out some form of tracking. Well some DO believe in "pixie dust" Lol

    Problem is....they disappear so fast,hard to track due to small size. If YOU are one of lucky few with exceptional eagle eyes, go for it. Otherwise beg, borrow or buy a tracker of some sort if ya ever want to see it again. Of course ya can put you name & PH # on it, in hopes of getting that call from "pixies".
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