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    Cardstock virgin...

    OK, I have been thinking of trying this card stock stuff. So yesterday I was at Hobby Lobby & they had card stock on sale, 50% off, so I bought some.
    One package is labeled 80#, the other I bought is lighter, but no weight given.
    I tried to print Art Applewhite's freebies to start off. Well, the 80# wont run in my printer (Epson all in one). The lighter one does.

    Can layer the lighter to the heavier, or do I need to search the yard sales for a different printer??

    If I layer it, what is the best way to do that?
    I use a glue stick on receipts for my expense reports and that seems like it would give a bond for this situation also.

    For now I am planning to try and stick with 13mm motors, as they are easily acquired, maybe in the future I'll venture into MMX..

    I tried to search, but 'printer' gives pages of hits for printing decals.

    I guess I have babbled enough. Any assistance would be appreciated.
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    Well, I'm not sure why the 80# won't run through your printer - I've had several Epson printers in the past and they've all run the 110# card I buy at Walmart (Georgia Pacific - definitely recommended over any other kind). You might try picking up a package of the GP stuff at Walmart, only costs around $5 a package and one package will go a long way.

    I'd also recommend going to the Fliskits website and downloading one of his free rocket kits - the midnight express is 18mm but flies great.

    And I'd be remiss not to mention my own Project Paper - just look through the threads here in the cardstock rocketry section and you'll find it - I've posted a lot of different models and components that you can mix and match - kind of like a paper version of the old Estes Designer's Special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpoehlein View Post
    Well, I'm not sure why the 80# won't run through your printer - I've had several Epson printers in the past and they've all run the 110# card I buy at Walmart (Georgia Pacific - definitely recommended over any other kind). You might try picking up a package of the GP stuff at Walmart, only costs around $5 a package and one package will go a long way.

    I'd also recommend going to the Fliskits website and downloading one of his free rocket kits - the midnight express is 18mm but flies great.

    And I'd be remiss not to mention my own Project Paper - just look through the threads here in the cardstock rocketry section and you'll find it - I've posted a lot of different models and components that you can mix and match - kind of like a paper version of the old Estes Designer's Special.
    Coolness, I will look into all of these! Thank you!
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    The "weight" rating on paper doesn't necessarily denote the thickness. 90# index paper is the same thickness as 110# offset text paper and both are thinner than 65# cover stock, which is the same thickness as 47# bond paper.

    Here's a link to a paper conversion chart: http://www.paper-paper.com/weight.html

    Nice little page for paper-philes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne's World View Post
    The "weight" rating on paper doesn't necessarily denote the thickness. 90# index paper is the same thickness as 110# offset text paper and both are thinner than 65# cover stock, which is the same thickness as 47# bond paper.

    Here's a link to a paper conversion chart: http://www.paper-paper.com/weight.html

    Nice little page for paper-philes.
    Thanks Wayne, Now I'm really confused

    Interesting information, bookmarked.
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    Cardstock Virgin...





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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex View Post
    Thanks Wayne, Now I'm really confused

    Interesting information, bookmarked.
    Paper is a peculiar business, in the US, anyway. The rest of the world uses the Metric System, which uses thickness and weight, and not the kind of paper, as nomenclature. We have a different name for each kind of paper, and a rough system of classifying different papers according to the weight of a 500-sheet ream. Of course, they make it weirder by using different size paper to determine the weight for each kind, i.e. typing or bond paper is based on the weights of 500 sheets of 17"x22", while index is based on the weights of 500 sheets of 25 1/2"x30 1/2". Then, different manufacturers follow different specs.

    The only way to know for sure is to measure with calipers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpoehlein View Post
    I'd also recommend going to the Fliskits website and downloading one of his free rocket kits - the midnight express is 18mm but flies great.

    And I'd be remiss not to mention my own Project Paper - just look through the threads here in the cardstock rocketry section and you'll find it - I've posted a lot of different models and components that you can mix and match - kind of like a paper version of the old Estes Designer's Special.
    I just downloaded all of your pdf files, figure I'll print them on regular paper and put them in a binder. When I want to put something together, I go through the binder, pick out what I want and run the card stock through the printer... Nice theory, we'll see how it works out...

    Grabbed the downloads from Fliskits, too, will add them to the binder....

    Thank you for your support!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex View Post
    Well, the 80# wont run in my printer (Epson all in one). The lighter one does.
    Is the paper feed straight through? My old Epson had a lever under the cover where the ink cartriges were that was marked "O" and "+". You flipped the lever to "+" for heavier paper.
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    Both my late model Epson printers (the workforce 630 is in the shop, the 840 upstairs) will run 64# and 110# from the tray one sheet at a time. That said, I do prefer a printer that has a drop down back for straight through feed.

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    Personally, I take the file I want to print to a copy shop, especially for complex designs.

    Mainly, I just don't want the wear and tear on my printer. Plus they can deal with the jamming issues if there are any.

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    Like I said in my earlier post, go to Walmart and get a package of 110# Index Stock. That is the best stuff I've found for building rockets and it should go through most any Epson printer. The reason I like the Georgia Pacific index stock over any other is that it not only costs less, but is smoother AND brighter than either Wausau or Hammermill (those are usually sold at Office Depot and Staples respectively). The GP stock is just the best. And, if you do want to try any of my Project Paper models, they were designed for 110# index. Other weights may not work as well.
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    Different printer

    I looked up the manual for my printer, and sure enough recommended paper thickness is limited to 0.003-0.004inches.

    Think I am going to hold off on getting more card stock until I have a printer that will accept it.

    I have a old Canon in the garage that I may try to resurrect. If I am not mistaken, it has the trap door on the back so it can feed heavier paper straight through.

    Being 'out in the country', the nearest print shop place is about 45 miles away. If the printer in the garage wont work, I might just hit a yard sale or 2 this weekend and see what I can find.

    Until then, I have a few that printed on the stock I already have, I should get on with the cutting folding and gluing. Never know, they might work as is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdjsky01 View Post


    I built a Flis Caution Rocket and highly recommend it!

    I like it!! downloaded the rest of those available while I was there.... Starting a binder...

    Thank you for your support!!

    Mini-me likes the Caution rocket as well!
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