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    MM Hawk Missile (ASP Kit)

    What to do on a lazy Saturday afternoon? The better 2/3rds was out the her mother so I had to come up with something other then watching the tube..LOL!

    Some years back I purchased all the Micro Scale Kits Aerospace Specialty Products (ASP) had available. I believe this was 2003... They've been hanging over my building table in the dungon since. first one on the peg was the Hawk missile.
    A tiny T2+ (.281") body model. Looked like something I could assemble in fairly short order so I grapped it and took it upstairs just so I could see the sun while building LOL!!!
    Apon opening the kit I say WOW! 4 pages of insturctions??? Humm this looks like it's gonna be a bit more involved then I thought. Nope not more involved just very well thought out instructions. I put on a little music and started reading. Pretty nifty way of building micros with almost no wood other the the small basswood nosecone. All the other components were either cardboard tube and couplers or various thickness styrene.
    This is a pretty small models only a little over 4-1/8" in overall length.
    Marking the tubes and couplings, making up the forward section nosecone,coupling shoulder & body with splitshot lead weights and kevlar shockline were pretty slick. Locking the kevlar in one of the lead splitshot was a neat idea. I did replace the rather short 18inch length of shockline with my normal 30" 90lb kevlar but that's really the only change I made in the entire kit beside the streamer.
    Making the fins out of .030" styrene was a bit of a chore. I documented how I like to stack sand fins. This procedure is a little tougher with small, slick styrene pieces but can be done with just your fingers once your comfortable with the process. If the parts are to small or slick to hold onto properly they can be stacked with double faced masking or scotch tape. Masking is by far easier to remover after sanding to shape.
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    Hawk missile fin stack sanding.

    More pics of stacked fin sanding, checking often while we go.
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    Hawk Missile: Using fin alignment jig

    Attaching tiny fins to small bodies is one of the really fine properties of this handy little fin attachment jig.
    Here are a few shots of these little styrene fins being attached with Med CA.
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    Cutting the couplings into NC shoulder spacer and motor block. assembling and installing the motor block using the remaining coupling for depth.
    cutting, shaping and CA attaching the conduits.
    and final small alteration was using to smaller pieces of the provided launch lug rather then the entire thing.
    the model is ready for primer.
    as with the five other models I've been working on this weekend, this one has now been given it's first 3 coat primer treatment, and was sanded last evening. Should be ready for basecoat white paint with the next painting chance I get.
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    Looks like a nice kit and a great job! Tell ya though, I'm glad I'm watching and others are doing when it comes to these MMX kits--for me it would be the ultimate frustration to assemble one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixontj93060 View Post
    Looks like a nice kit and a great job! Tell ya though, I'm glad I'm watching and others are doing when it comes to these MMX kits--for me it would be the ultimate frustration to assemble one.
    it gets a little frustrating but the worst part of these little kits is trying to stop building them after you get your first one done. it seems the more you get under your belt the more complex and detailed you want to make them, followed by muffled cursing to yourself when you drop a piece on the carpet that is conviently colored to camoflage the little rings and lugs lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixontj93060 View Post
    Looks like a nice kit and a great job! Tell ya though, I'm glad I'm watching and others are doing when it comes to these MMX kits--for me it would be the ultimate frustration to assemble one.
    dixon:
    Come on in the building is fine.... have to agree with everything gagreen typed lol! especially about muttering while crawling around on the floor looking for one of those Clear 3/16" long launch lugs LOL!!!!

    I'll tell ya the absolute truth: It's the tools that make the job so much easier! You would not believe how much a 1/4" hardwood dowel makes the difference in marking and cutting tubes. A precision 6" metal ruler makes marking locations. HOW EASY marking and extending lines are on the edges of a 1/4" piece of plate glass with a second piece used as a base. and how easy sanding fins and other parts square and even on a piece of sandpaper glued to one of those glass plates. Discovering that Teflon plumbers tape can double as both Flameproof wadding and the recovery streamer.

    All little tricks just like we've all learned while building our standard and larger size mod-rocs.
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    Yeah, well, maybe... You'll just have to help me with my hands though 'cause I'm all thumbs!


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    Oh Man Now that's a GREAT shot LOL!!!!!

    Seriously thought; I'm 6-2, 350lb stubby fingered ham handed guy... I gotta believe if I can build these things half well most folks should be able to really do some nice stuff.

    Besides that's exactly why we're Here on TRF and the MicroMaxRockets yahoo group. To pass on as many of these little tricks as we can think off.
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    A little more work on this rocket has been done.
    3 coats of cheapy primer. sanding all surfaces with 240 & 360 grit sandpaper and a first coat of Gloss white after waiting for the primer to cure.

    Sorry I moved just a tad while taking the last close-up.
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    Because this model is so tight between the fins/LL/wireway tunnels I decided it would make the most sense to use liquid mask before attempting to black paint the wireway tunnels and fins.
    I have several different brands preferring gripmask a lacryl paints product. but for this build thread I thought I'd use one of the readily LHS available bottled masks.
    I'm applying this with a stiff bristle brush, then washing the brush well with soap and water to remove any residue.
    As with all liquid masking films this one will take a least overnight to completely dry to a bluish/clear film. I want the film to be at least 2mils or so thick so an additional application may be required.


    As suspected several of the fins show a very thin film, I've also located a spot where I apparently allowed an air bubble to settle. this will also require a touch up. I'll apply a compete 2nd coat just because an let it set overnight. Theres masks can be oven dried but I've had bad experiences with removing oven dried masking films. I prefer to just wait the extra day or so to get the job done right.
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    This is another favorite of mine. It really needs a tail cone though. I might have been better done in T3.

    My bro did one in 1:1 scale back in the mid 1990s as his L3 project. He finished the rocket complete with olive drab paint scheme and flat black lettering but never installed the electronics. He never never did fly the rocket but he used it for many years as part of a lecture series on rocketry he presented to high school physics classes. The week long talks on rocketry included the kids building Big Berthas and culminated in two days of launching the rockets tracking the rockets and doing the math to figure how high they went. I spent those days at a tracking station with various kids recording the data and radioing it in but the kids did all of the actual tracking and interpreting of the data. We did this every year for about ten years untill we eventually moved from the area. We left our six rod launch stand and controller with the school and I understand they still build and launch Big Berthas every year. In fact it is about that time of the year, as I recall they did this in late April or early May. One of the really cool things about these launches is that the grade school classes would often show up to watch. There is no telling how many kids became interested in rocketry because of this.
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    Yep!
    But this one is an ASP Kit, really didn't have that choice about the boattail on this build.

    Sounds like a wonderful outreach program, glad to hear its still working. Our club does a number of that type build and fly programs for schools, scout groups and other institutions yearly. It's part of our charter mission statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micromeister View Post
    Yep!
    But this one is an ASP Kit, really didn't have that choice about the boattail on this build.

    Sounds like a wonderful outreach program, glad to hear its still working. Our club does a number of that type build and fly programs for schools, scout groups and other institutions yearly. It's part of our charter mission statement
    Pay forward has been a way of life for Narhams since 1965.
    Yes I saw that it was an ASP kit. Seeing what I have of your work I am sure that it would be true scale had you scratch built it.

    It was fun to help out with the high school physics class annual launch but all of the credit belongs to the teacher and the kids themselves. We were happy to provide the launch equipment and safety guidance. I would like to think that we provided a framework that enabled the launches to continue after our parting but the fact is they were launching rockets before we got there. Again, it's the teachers, administrators and the kids that deserve ALL of the credit for programs like this. Clubs SHOULD be there to step in and provide as much or little help as is requested.
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    got back to applying the second coat of liquid mask to the Hawk and parts of the HOJO last night. With Luck I may get to knife and peel the Hawk this evening. If so it might even get second color coated this evening since I'm one of the few people in the world who can't stand watching Basketball.
    but don't get me started on that one LOL!!!!
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    Well; its done.
    Decided I didn't want to mess around anymore with this one. Seems the liquid mask softened the Rustoleum Gloss white paint and it never rehardened. stripped most of it but the stripper began attacking the styrene wireways so discontinued... left it as was for the most part. Sanded a bit, Re-coated gloss white and Hand painted the black fins and wireways.
    Applied the decals and a coat of future last evening. Not very happy with the finish but it'll fly fine...Tis done
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    I don't care what anybody says, these little rockets can present some significant challenges in building and finishing. The smaller you go the more amplified the flaws become.

    Your Hawk looks great John, good job sir!
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    Thanks for posting those. That's a sweet build. I'm not converted to the micro side yet, but these are inspiration.
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    Thanks Guys:
    I have to say this one is one of the very first Micros that I can say really frustrated me. I've been masking and painting things for a very long time but this little bugger really tested my patients and I have to say got the better of me toward the end.
    Just goes to show pretty graphicly that EVERYONE can have trouble with a particular project no matter how large or small...LOL!! I may scratch build a couple more to set up a Hawk Battery but they will have to wait awhile.
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    Little A.S.P. Hawk Missle is a pretty good flyer as well. MMX-II motor I almost missed it in the air. Actually I'm surprised I caught it. did weathercock pretty good in a 8-10mph breeze but was a very nice arcing flight.
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