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    Estes "Patriot"

    I picked one up yesterday. Didnt look at the package to close when I bought it. Anywhoo- Last night I open the package and see the BT is in 3 pieces?????? I didnt go thru the whole intructions, but at this point,I see no reason for this,other than the top piece of BT is yellow.Ya still gota paint the bottom red, so I dont get it????????????????????????
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    I cloned one of those kits and used a single length of tubing. I think the three tubes assists in doing the paint scheme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin523 View Post
    I cloned one of those kits and used a single length of tubing. I think the three tubes assists in doing the paint scheme.
    I don't think so. I believe the tubes were put together that way so they would fit in the Estes Launchables packaging.


    Coincidently I'm building the same kit right now. I just finished the fillets on the fins.
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    3 piece BT

    [ I think the three tubes assists in doing the paint scheme.[/QUOTE] I thought about that after I posted.Still seems like alot of pieces and couplers and seams just to ease the paint job.?????????? I guess the decals (stickers) hide the seams??????? Ya thats it ,thats the ticket! Im gona paint it, decal it so its a Patriots (as in New England Patriots) rocket. Have the old Minuteman on it and of course the colors =Red,White and Blue. PS. The wife has been very good about my rocket spending.But she still wants me and has been after me for awhile to build her an M&Ms rocket.So to ease the PAIN, I told her I bought the Patriot rocket and my plan on the paint scheme for her,she being a BIG Pats fan, she thought that was SWEET of me.Sometimes a mans just gota do (or say)what hes gota do. ah ahahahahahahahahhahaahaha
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    I have one of these and it flys great! Especially on Aerotech RMS 18/20 D13 and D24

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    Wow, I said the same thing!!
    I have since had to re-glue the coupler on the aft. (but i put a baffle so i dont have to use wadding) so ejection pressures over about 50 flights blew the back end off, (where the decal was the ony thing holding it...)

    "Dad, I am going to put a big motor in this skinny rocket... its going to disapear like a ghost!!!.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty Dog View Post
    [ I think the three tubes assists in doing the paint scheme.
    I thought about that after I posted.Still seems like alot of pieces and couplers and seams just to ease the paint job.?????????? I guess the decals (stickers) hide the seams??????? Ya thats it ,thats the ticket! Im gona paint it, decal it so its a Patriots (as in New England Patriots) rocket. Have the old Minuteman on it and of course the colors =Red,White and Blue. PS. The wife has been very good about my rocket spending.But she still wants me and has been after me for awhile to build her an M&Ms rocket.So to ease the PAIN, I told her I bought the Patriot rocket and my plan on the paint scheme for her,she being a BIG Pats fan, she thought that was SWEET of me.Sometimes a mans just gota do (or say)what hes gota do. ah ahahahahahahahahhahaahaha[/QUOTE]

    Oh I don`t know ,this might be nice also....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodmeister View Post
    I thought about that after I posted.Still seems like alot of pieces and couplers and seams just to ease the paint job.?????????? I guess the decals (stickers) hide the seams??????? Ya thats it ,thats the ticket! Im gona paint it, decal it so its a Patriots (as in New England Patriots) rocket. Have the old Minuteman on it and of course the colors =Red,White and Blue. PS. The wife has been very good about my rocket spending.But she still wants me and has been after me for awhile to build her an M&Ms rocket.So to ease the PAIN, I told her I bought the Patriot rocket and my plan on the paint scheme for her,she being a BIG Pats fan, she thought that was SWEET of me.Sometimes a mans just gota do (or say)what hes gota do. ah ahahahahahahahahhahaahaha
    Oh I don`t know ,this might be nice also....

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    1 piece BT

    Went with one piece BT and otherwise stock build.Except, I do have a Mylar?? Balloon that has the Patriots logos and stuff on it. I may cut the chute out of that. Silver with the Pats stuff in red, white and blue. Ill post future pics of this build in the LPR forum.
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    I thought the same thing when I built my first one. I have since come to really like it. The coupler adds a lot of strength...not that it really needs it. But because of the sturdiness of the kit, I tend to fly this one a lot.

    I have two unopened Patriots (50% off from Michaels) that I will mod to fly 2X 18mm and 1X 24mm.

    The only thing that would make this kit indestructable is through-the-wall fins.

    Unusual design but fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COrocket View Post
    I have one of these and it flys great! Especially on Aerotech RMS 18/20 D13 and D24
    Are you flying the kit stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moldie View Post
    Are you flying the kit stock?

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    Yeah, I fly the kit stock, without any reinforcement. The only picture I could find is one I cropped from one of the NARAM websites. If you have never flown the Aerotech 18/20s, they are a lot of fun. I personally like the D13 white lightning, because they have a bit of smoke. You cant really see the color of blue thunder in smaller sizes, but the higher thrust D24 will launch it like a bullet. The only downside to RMS is the initial hardware costs. I think the cheapest 18/20 could find was $30. After that, the reloads are very reasonable, especially if you get them from Valuerockets. A 3-pack of D motors is $8.99, which is pretty hard to beat.

    Just be careful with these rockets, because if you go with Aerotech, composites can deliver 2x the total impulse, which is more than the kits were designed for. The rocket probably won't shred, but I almost lost it because it went so high. I'll probably add nose weight before I launch again, to keep it reasonable. Aerotech also makes single use motors in small sizes, if you don't want to risk loosing the metal casing.
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    COrocket,

    I've flown the 18mm RMS in an Inflight Blue Bird Zero before. Flies great. I love the 18mm RMS motors. Like you said about the hardware cost, I would be hesitant about flying in an such a small kit like the Patriot. But I bet it is fun to fly tho on a D13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moldie View Post
    COrocket,

    I've flown the 18mm RMS in an Inflight Blue Bird Zero before. Flies great. I love the 18mm RMS motors. Like you said about the hardware cost, I would be hesitant about flying in an such a small kit like the Patriot. But I bet it is fun to fly tho on a D13.
    Yeah, it always gets you thinking when you launch a reload case thats worth as much if not more than the rocket itself...but I guess that happens in HPR as well. I was just thinking that flying it like that might be easier than modifying it for a 24MM motor mount, although the Estes 24MM stuff is neat as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty Dog View Post
    I picked one up yesterday. Didnt look at the package to close when I bought it. Anywhoo- Last night I open the package and see the BT is in 3 pieces?????? I didnt go thru the whole intructions, but at this point,I see no reason for this,other than the top piece of BT is yellow.Ya still gota paint the bottom red, so I dont get it????????????????????????
    actually there was never a patriot with a yellow section below the cone. it was raw phenolic and/or a primer type paint ...so you could paint it pink and it wouldn't be any less realistic..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymye View Post
    actually there was never a patriot with a yellow section below the cone. it was raw phenolic and/or a primer type paint ...so you could paint it pink and it wouldn't be any less realistic..lol
    Probably zinc chromate.


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    Does the above post mean Sodmeister is a Colts fan? I'm starting to like you even more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin523 View Post
    Does the above post mean Sodmeister is a Colts fan? I'm starting to like you even more!

    I WAS a Colts fan..............nah,just kidding, still love the Colts ,and REALLY like the JETS now

    Seahawks...............bye,bye

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    Here's mine...18mm mount and I swear I saw one painted just like this on television while watching CNN's Desert Storm coverage...lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Threemorewishes View Post
    Here's mine...18mm mount and I swear I saw one painted just like this on television while watching CNN's Desert Storm coverage...lol.


    lol... sure it wasn't a scud you saw ? ..
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    Apparently theres one little catch that slipped by me and i wonder how many other guys did the same thing I've done. And that is gluing the fins right at the end of the tube whereas the instructions state to glue them 1/16 inch from the end.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Ron View Post
    Apparently theres one little catch that slipped by me and i wonder how many other guys did the same thing I've done. And that is gluing the fins right at the end of the tube whereas the instructions state to glue them 1/16 inch from the end.....
    I did that too, doesn't matter, it flies fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Ron View Post
    Apparently theres one little catch that slipped by me and i wonder how many other guys did the same thing I've done. And that is gluing the fins right at the end of the tube whereas the instructions state to glue them 1/16 inch from the end.....
    I was instructed to make a mark 3/16 from end of BT . Its in primer and will be till warmer weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty Dog View Post
    I was instructed to make a mark 3/16 from end of BT . Its in primer and will be till warmer weather.
    More proof that I didnt read the instructions....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Ron View Post
    More proof that I didnt read the instructions....
    Like you said , whos going to catch that oops? Your Patriot looks mighty fine from my view.
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