gary7
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Printable versions cost up to or more than $30+! Does anyone know of a place to go to print this document with out that charge?
No. All NFPA documents are copyrighted, so if you need a hardcopy, you have to purchase it from NFPA.Printable versions cost up to or more than $30+! Does anyone know of a place to go to print this document with out that charge?
Printable versions cost up to or more than $30+! Does anyone know of a place to go to print this document with out that charge?
Printable versions cost up to or more than $30+! Does anyone know of a place to go to print this document with out that charge?
No. All NFPA documents are copyrighted, so if you need a hardcopy, you have to purchase it from NFPA.
Bob
Our short answer is that as law, the model codes enter the public domain and are not subject to the copyright holders exclusive prerogatives. As model codes, however, the organizations works retain their protected status.
NFPA is very clever in their introductory section stating that the codes are not the law, however they also give instructions on how to incorporate their codes into law.The copyright of this code is questionable in some circumstances. An appeals court decision in 2002 said that you can't copyright public law.
Although the connection is indirect, I could argue that NFPA 1122, 1125, and 1127 can be copied without regard to copyright status since they are referenced ("The storage, handling and use of model and high power rocket motors shall comply with the requirements of NFPA 1122, NFPA 1125, and NFPA 1127.") in the International Fire Code which has been adopted as law by the city where I live and many others.
In any case it is easy to access and view the document through the NFPA web site. Although the app that displays the document is designed to prevent saving or printing a copy, it can still be done.
Just a tidbit of information that many of you many not know. I used to work for a company that was responsible for maintaining and printing many of the codes used for natural gas appliances. The operation of the organizations that maintain and print many of these codes are private nonprofit industries and not tax supported public offices. The sales of the codes is what provides the dollars to write and maintain them.
One more concern i have is in regards to NFPA 1123 in general. is there any possible way that i can see the laws that govern, without having to pay to see them? something about that just seems wrong...it is my understanding that NFPA 1123's text is only available under contract terms and is not free text...am i wrong on that?
You may view any of the NFPA codes online at the NFPA website (NFPA.ORG) without charge.
Was it the AGA? If so then they didn't charge enough since they effectively disappeared a few years ago. Now all the equipment we use has CSA (Canadian Standards not the Confederacay) approvals.
Part of the issue here is just that: if I want to review the policies, I have to go on line. There are still many, many things that people like to have hard copies of rather than being forced to go online to read them. This is one of those times and the powers that be know that. So, they take advantage of that by charging us the money to get that written copy. It would be so simple to allow us to print it from the site on our own printers. Besides, aren't these from the federal government regulations? My taxes should be enough to pay for the viewing online and then allowing me to print my own copy.
this my be stupid but what about writing it out yourself word for word in case you just need a reference to fall back on .
or make a recording of you reading the document and use it as a Quote ?
Bobby
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