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  1. #1
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    ISO MGM-52 Lance Missle Scale data ( ISO=In Search Of)

    Looking for drawings of the the MGM-52 Lance missle with dimensions. ROTW drawing would be nice even, any information. This US missile seems to have received little love here on the forums as even the TLP version has no galleries or data that I have been able to located.

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    It is in Peter Alway's, "Fourteen US Army Missiles of the Cold War". It might be available through NAR Technical Service. I was browsing around on the NAR website. It looks like you might be able to buy the book here:

    https://blastzone.org/nar/narts/stor...=1080035015601

    Last edited by aerostadt; 18th April 2018 at 04:14 AM.

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    I built the TLP Lance with fins based on the Alway drawings. It flies great; it's rock solid on D12-5. And as you point out, you don't see one every day. I recommend it.
    If you ask a child to draw a rocket, he'll draw a V-2.

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    Why don't you google it, get a side profile picture, and work backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_ASC View Post
    Why don't you google it, get a side profile picture, and work backwards.
    Maybe you need to get your cranial rectal convergence fixed. Google is usually the first form of research for a scale project, failing to achieve good enough data, measurements from actual examples/displays are next (if possible), if the first two fail to achieve the results sought asking members of the forum if they have plans or data to share is next. It will surprise you the amount of data possessed by members of TRF, several time they have not only risen to the task but absolutely slam dunked it.
    Rich

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    https://www.amrdec.army.mil/amrdec/5...on-mgm-52.html

    This had the length and diameter of the real one from the actual Army. That's more info than I found out about BAMSE. Sometimes if you find real good quality pictures you can directly measure body tube or nosecone lengths and fin info off photo then rescale it to how you want. Granted it won't be perfect so stop obsessing over minor details on a project you can't find data on. Most people will agree it looks Lance enough. Maybe you'll find someone that worked on it or had a schematic, but I doubt it. If they make toy models of the lance maybe there's details on color configurations and markings etc. I only googled it and you still start with insults. I've solidworks and OR'd a SAAB BAMSE and 372 from resizing length/diameter of components from actual photos. I had to eyeball a power series for the aft transitions and plug numbers in until close enough. SAaB wasn't going to just tell the exact power series exponent they used, lol. I even made a few spreadsheets to resize it as I like in the future.

    What are you expecting high res pictures with templates to make a model from with jigs too!?!? Put a little work into it and you too can rescale from pictures to any hobby tube size you want. Who knows, you could make a Lance kit yourself.

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    Uncle Mike's still has the TLP plan pak for that missile. Two fin versions, conventional warhead and nuclear, as well as the cardstock tail cone pattern and nose cone tip extension. With TLP defunct and their kits no longer readily available, this is the best way to go. Standard components are readily available at numerous vendors. Plus you can use the templates/patterns to up/downscale to any size.

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    A little more information:

    Length 20 ft 3 in

    Diameter 22 in

    (From Bill Gunston's The Illustrated Encyclopedia of the World's Rockets and Missiles)

    There's a nice close up picture in the book showing the Army markings, and another one showing the spinner rockets firing at launch.

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    Everyone who contributed thank you. Basically I have pretty minimal info to work with until I get a chance to visit a display and take measurements for myself. Evidently this is not a particularly popular rocket to model in much detail. My eventual goal is to model the T52 Assaultbreaker based off the Lance.
    Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by rharshberger View Post
    My eventual goal is to model the T52 Assaultbreaker based off the Lance.
    That is T22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UhClem View Post
    Err Yep! Brain cramp. I believe I have a copy of your Rocksim/OR file for that very rocket! 😀

    Rich

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