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Sorry for being rude... I will reconsider but what would you recommend as a motor

A smaller rocket.


Not being a jerk either. Get your team working and the bumps of that ironed out on a smaller project. Once the team is built and trained, this may be possible.

Team first, Project next.
 
Guys i said this 1,000 times im only gonna say it one more time to you djs (or little princess) this project is happining. I just wanted to share the steps were gonna take.

Your response is rude. Various people are giving you very good reasoning why this is not a very practical idea. You choose to be a wise guy. If you do not want commentary then I suggest you not post it to a forum.

I am done with this.
 
Will do! Since the team is experienced should we do a downscaled version of this? or a polecat thunderstorm? if i can get one
 
Ask anyone that has flown one...even a 12" rocket with a 6" motor is borderline unmanageable for one to three people. The things that are easy afterthoughts with small rockets quickly become feats of engineering as rockets get to that size. Beyond that and you probably need a specialist.
 
I have flown ever since i was 7, when i was 9 i got into high power. The biggest motor was a M2400 and this motor will be a o hybrid

Cool. How about that curriculum vitae? You've been flying high power for four years, lets see some documentation of your previous projects. I'm sure you have plenty of photos of your builds. Forum members love photos! What's your dads TRA member ID? Is he a member of the forum? Possible, yet still curiously, after all these years of experience and you just yesterday stumbled across this site and decided to join up?

It pains me that other forum members can't see through this guy. What has me most perplexed is how terribly sad this guy's life must be to have nothing better to do!
 
12_yearoldrocketscientist... I havnt been on here since yesterday first. Second i will get that number from him as soon as possible... 3rd i would love to show you my current model being worked on.
 
To be clear, you don't need to prove to anyone on this forum that you have the qualifications to do a project of this size. An overwhelming majority of us have zero experience with such a thing.

You do need to be prepared for criticism if you post publicly, and mostly from that overwhelming majority of people with no experience. Take your time, do your research, do the project that you want to do, but proceed with caution when you consider sharing here.
 
Stick to youtube and WoW, buddy.

[video=youtube;Rw8gE3lnpLQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw8gE3lnpLQ[/video]
 
Crazy Idea.... If you want to use that contrail.... find a local composite sailboat builder, take him a case of beer and have a chat with him about this.
 
A few years ago, my office had a summer intern who shall remain nameless. He had some very strongly held beliefs, including how much he was going to get paid when he graduated, how dirty engineers should be expected to get in the field, etc. It took a looooong time to convince him of anything, if you could at all. "Trust me" from someone with 30 years' experience would just start an argument. He maintained for an hour or so that the business of engineering expert witnesses shouldn't exist, since there's only one set of facts and nobody could legitimately draw different conclusions from the same basic set of facts. His dream was to open a shipyard within the Seattle city limits, sell the Navy on a new concept vessel that they didn't know they needed, and then proceed to put Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics out of the naval shipbuilding business by being better at the job than they are.

The relevance of this story to this thread is (as the textbooks say) left as an exercise for the student.
 
Appreciate the concern! Love you guys all to heart but i will have a detailed update with the materials needed being next
 
Dude,

I say go for it.

I think it would be impressive if you got it built, more so if you flew it.

Post pics, post updates.

Don't let the nay sayers discourage you.

If I were you I might consider a cardboard "mock up" of smaller size to work out the details!

Good luck!

One thing is guaranteed, you will learn, you will learn a lot, far more than if you do nothing!
 
Wow im so grateful for your guys kind words. I am rewriting the proposal as my goals are a little "over my head" one i will be having help by at least 10 veteran rocketers helping me with welding,Foam Cutting, simulations, etc. For one big change were building a 1/4 model first but using the same exact construction methods to get our feet wet. Then We will research for "as long as it takes" its the only way this will work, as if you set a deadline for yourself you also set pressure, so right now im at 2000 psi, im going to burst,overwhelmed with all the challenges i have to overcome by that time... i can give a estimate. Late 2018 at the Least... that brings it down to 900 psi, still kinda tight, but allows for a nice and slow learning curve, to iron out all construction problems.
 
So I am just wondering how your post in the yard sale lines up with your statements here? You need fiscal "help" with a level 1 motor and rocket poxy but you are going to weld together a full scale V2? Right....
 
With enough time and effort anything is possible.

He has had more of one thing than any of us. Time
 
If you guys want to fall for it, more power to you. His posts are replied to quickly by rockets which is interesting. He asked for people to pm him to sponsor his V2 build that will be in 2018 yet he only has $24 for rocket poxy and a 5 grain cti case. I am just telling you guys, watch out... this is all kinds of fishy
 
You think kids have money? I am getting all funds from my parents but first i need to get a level 1 and level 2 again due to my father would never make it to a launch. I dont act like i have all the money in the world ok? instead of asking for a ATV or a dji drone im asking for MATERIALS! Your a disgrace and if you would like to think i am partnering up with rockets, then you must have a bigger imagination than me! witch if i do say is kinda hard. I am a 13 year old with around 6 years (give or take) of experience under my belt. I am designing a full scale v-2 rocket while also getting ready to go to school. If you have the nerve to say "watch out... this is all kinds of fishy" then polity get the **** off this thread... send me your Skype name I will be glad to verbally bash you. have a good day actually its 1:22 in the morning. Why am i up? I will be researching day and night until i have ironed out some key design challenges so if you dont mind i have some work to do.
 
I have to pay for my level 1 and 2 because the v2 rocket isnt gonna be cheap at all! I no longer need help as someone already helped me... Already practically done my level 1 and level 2 rocket! will be launching as of the matter of the fact in a week and 1 day.So get off the thread with your rude assumptions.
 
I have to pay for my level 1 and 2 because the v2 rocket isnt gonna be cheap at all! I no longer need help as someone already helped me... Already practically done my level 1 and level 2 rocket! will be launching as of the matter of the fact in a week and 1 day.So get off the thread with your rude assumptions.

Good luck on Level 1 and 2, let us know how they go.
 
I would suggest flatly ignoring naysayers at this point. Time spend replying to them will only get in the way of your goal.
 
13_Year_old_Rocket_guru,

I completely understand being ambitious and not wanting anyone to stand in the way of your success because thats how I am but at the same time I also understand that to make it to where you want to be, you need to make relationships with your peers to help you along the way. I think saying things like ".. send me your Skype name I will be glad to verbally bash you" detracts from the professional tone you would want to have with the more experienced people who are trying to help you.

Just keep that in mind as you proceed in your project. It seems like you've taken a lead role on the project and no-one wants to work with someone who can't take criticism and have an open mind about the task at hand.

Best of luck with your project!

Tripp
 
Will do! Since the team is experienced should we do a downscaled version of this? or a polecat thunderstorm? if i can get one

I suspect you'd be best served by starting with a 1/8th scale version of what you're looking to fly and construct it with the same materials and techniques in which you envision to employ on the full scale vehicle. Select a motor that will provide you roughly the same flight profile as your proposed motor for the 1:1 attempt. I'm not sure about the motor side of things but I'm pretty sure Karl's full scale V2 was preceded by a smaller test V2 much like I've outlined above. This will allow you to test your tools and techniques before attempting something bigger. Building a Polecat Thunderstorm kit will give you some experience with a bigger rocket but it's virtually useless as a test vehicle as your construction techniques will be incredibly far removed from what's required to slap a Thunderstorm kit together, or any rocket kit for that matter. If I were looking to do a project like this that would be how I'd start the process.

I do also think you should seriously consider how much time, effort, and cash this project will require to even reach the pad. Crazy Jim touched on many of the logistical issues that arise with regards to a project of this magnitude. Now I don't expect you'll be looking to drive halfway across the country to fly the thing like Karl and the Victorians did but that's borderline moot. Unless you're going to launch next to the workshop where you construct the rocket you'll need to consider making it modular to more effectively shift it from workshop to launch site. When the Victorians did this their V2 broke into 3 separate pieces and was convoyed to Queensland. It took them a day to assemble it in the paddock.

It's probably worth mentioning that after he was done Karl effectively swore off HP for a while. From what I understand his flights afterwards primarily consisted of rockets flying on low power BP motors. You'll most likely end up burned out by this project regardless of success or failure. I'd take that into consideration as well if I were you.
 
If you guys want to fall for it, more power to you. His posts are replied to quickly by rockets which is interesting. He asked for people to pm him to sponsor his V2 build that will be in 2018 yet he only has $24 for rocket poxy and a 5 grain cti case. I am just telling you guys, watch out... this is all kinds of fishy

I called it long ago. My antennas went up just by his tone in his first post. Much can be gleaned from grammar, spelling and writing style. The more he posts, the more ridiculous, immature and rancorous he sounds, the more he contradicts himself, and the more his story changes. I am simply lost on his motive, however.

I may not have known a whole lot when I was 13, but I wasn't utterly retarded. This kid is in lala land trying to convince the forum of the legitimacy of a pipe dream and the audience is eating it up. This kid has a lot to learn in humbleness and humility. Wagering with myself on how many pages of Bravo Sierra the naivete of the forum will allow this to run.

Welcome to generation snowflake, folks. This isn't a dream he's pitched to gather on the wisdom of others, or an admittedly improbable, though well-articulated idea, this is a kid with no solid foundation in reality hell bent on and believing he can accomplish something he can't, then lashing out at folks whom call out is BS.

I suggest you reverse your cranial-rectal inversion malady while you're still young, kiddo. If 13 is indeed your age, and this is how you behave, you've got a long way to go.
 
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Welcome to generation snowflake, folks. This isn't a dream he's pitched to gather on the wisdom of others, or an admittedly improbable, though well-articulated idea, this is a kid with no solid foundation in reality hell bent on and believing he can accomplish something he can't, then lashing out at folks whom call out is BS.

Dismissing an entire generation as snowflakes says more about you than it does this kid CORZERO.
 
Dude, wow.

Some more red flags. You said you have flown an M recently but need an l1. It could not be that you need an l1 because someone who has flown an M would surely know you could not l2 at 13.

Not only that but you said you have to level 1 and 2 "again" at 13. So that is to say you had a level 2? Or your dad "had" a level 2? Yet in order to fly an M he would have to have a L3 or have attempted it at least.

You are fishing for a free 5 grain case in 1 thread. Fishing for sponsors here. Prove me wrong with your dad's Tripoli or NAR number that was once a L3.

This is not ok, I know what you are doing... do not take advantage of nice people.
 
His posts are replied to quickly by rockets which is interesting.

Is it? If you have a look at rockets signature you'll see a URL for his blogspot page. On that page you'll see a link to his Google+ page. It appears he frequents Tripoli Mid Ohio launches. That seems to mesh with his "somewhere in Ohio" Location in his profile.
 
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