Folks,
This last Saturday, Jason and I needed to make contact with an angry neighbor north of where we fly. One of our seasoned and regular fliers decided to park on her private driveway while recovering a rocket. She was very upset with this, and considered it disrespectful. She does not mind that we recover rockets on/near the property, but she expects that we do not park on her private driveway. Frankly, this is a common sense thing to not go on a residential driveway to recover a rocket, but it seems there is a need for a collective reminder. We need to stick to main roads like east/west 2300, 2400, 2500 and north/south 1850 and 1950. DO NOT PARK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY! If you need to make contact with a homeowner, you should park off a main road and walk to their residence and try to make contact with them. Any driveway that bears a reflective 911 address marker is a private driveway, see attached pics for details. Remember we are invited guests on private land, conduct yourself accordingly!
Any questions or concerns, please reach out to me, Jason, Brad, Steve, etc.
Thank you,
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Who this individual was.
Guys,
Let's not focus on WHO this was and worry more about the education to flyers who aren't as familiar with the rules and etiquette.
Glen, she ISN'T a landowner, she is a landowners TENANT. If she is unhappy, she puts pressure on the landowner.
We can all use the reminders every once and a while. Let's all call off the lynch mob and just speed the word about launch site etiquette.
While talking to her, she actually said she doesn't mind if we walk on her grass to recover out rockets. She actually said that she didn't want us to ring her doorbell every time we land there. She said just don't drive on her drive or park on it. Basically the message was "I don't like you guys, I don't have to, if you have to get your rocket, get it and get out"
So that being the case, if a rocket lands a good distance from the house, would be best to just walk out and get it? If it lands close to the house, walk up and ask permission to get it off the lawn all the while not parking in the driveway?
I had a small project recover on that land at the last MWP and it was a fair distance Southeast of the house but out in the field. I just walked out and got it as it was just a bit north of the road.
It's difficult to know how each individual is going to respond but since this particular person is of that persuasion, it's best to proceed accordingly. For other situations if a landowner/tenant is upset, do one thing and one thing only, apologize profusely
and acknowledge you'll let others know about their preferences. Kurt
I was the first person to talk to the landowner (no, it wasn't me on her driveway). I can categorically state that the person involved was not Gus! Repeat- Gus was not involved in this.
Ty damage was only cosmetic but it really tore up the paint I figure I have plenty of time so Im gonna sand it all down and repaint it before mini-Midwest. I don't know if thats like one of those don't rename a boat thing so gonna be repainting it exactly like it was just encase lolCongratulations Locksmith on your successful L2, and glad it's resting spot was still in Illinois! The end of your video is slightly painful to watch - hope any damage you had was only cosmetic. My Loc MinusMag (Magnum without the E-Bay) was also dragged downwind after the landing. It appeared to me to have landed south of County Rd 2400N, but it's final resting point was 100 yards to the north of the road. I didn't think mine could have been dragged that far, but after your video it's plausible that it was.
Good one...
Yesterday "He" may have "Arisen" but, today- "I" "Arosen" with a monster pulled back muscle and, the ornery really came out...so i will defer my comments about emergency room visits to remove large chunks of well oiled leather products.
I think that a fliers meeting could be very beneficial to all who participate at QCRS events and, i will keep the above comments about recovery on this individuals property in mind for future reference.
To many others, this field or that field are their favorites but, in my case Princeton has become sacred ground to some of us over the last 12 years and, i really would wonder what would happen if i had to move on. Lets all respect our landowners and, remember courtesy does go along way. Some of these people love us, some don't... but, they live under the airspace we are allowed to play on...Until were not.
I've seen that happen too many times now, including my own "sandbox". :sigh:
Flyers meetings are band-aids at best. Publish site rules on the QCRS site including access rules, parking, etc. Also announce specific restrictions based on flight conditions, i.e., banning sparky's in dry conditions. If a flyer does not read rules and violates a rule during flight and/or recovery, they should be banned and have their flight privileges for the rest of the event and maybe one or two more subsequent events. This "detention" should be a single serious warning before a complete ban lasting the rest of the flying season.
I'm going to sidetrack this... Thank you a ton to whoever found my 4"nosecone. I would love to know where it was found and details, just to satisfy my curiosity... So, thanks! And who was it? I owe ya a G motor!
Flyers meetings are band-aids at best. Publish site rules on the QCRS site...
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