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I have been curious if anyone these days are attaching video cameras to their rockets during flight? We've advanced a lot since the film Cineroc days, so I'm not sure what you guys have done. I have an old GoPro that I wouldn't mind working into it, but maybe it's too heavy/cumbersome to work into a model design. What are some of the creative builds you guys have done to shoot video from your rockets? Is there a standard acceptable way? I can't imagine how to attach a camera without some kind of specialized one.

I would love to hear your ideas and even links or photos to what you've done!

Thanks,
Dave
 
Möbius camera is one of a few that are pretty popular these days. Some people simply wrap it on to the airframe with electrical tape. There's a guy on this forum who makes 3-D printed shrouds which are attached to the airframe with a few screws and I've seen other people mount a camera in the AV bay.

This is a shroud made by Landru on a 4" airframe https://additive-aerospace.myshopify.com/

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Here is a video of same camera/rocket

[video]https://youtu.be/HALw48suJuw[/video]
 
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You can get lens extension cables to extend the lens up to 8" from the mobius as well. This allows for mounting the camera in the av bay and the lens on the BT without much issue.

Others like the small key chain camera
 
I have been curious if anyone these days are attaching video cameras to their rockets during flight? We've advanced a lot since the film Cineroc days, so I'm not sure what you guys have done. I have an old GoPro that I wouldn't mind working into it, but maybe it's too heavy/cumbersome to work into a model design. What are some of the creative builds you guys have done to shoot video from your rockets? Is there a standard acceptable way? I can't imagine how to attach a camera without some kind of specialized one.

I would love to hear your ideas and even links or photos to what you've done!

Thanks,
Dave

I make fairings and mounts for the Sony Action Cameras. They are not as large as the GoPro (although I have mounted those in a rocket) and the set up is very aerodynamic. The fairing is based on the Von Karmon equations and has a very low profile. Its only slightly larger than the Keychain cameras but the Sony's can shoot in 4K or HD at some very high frame rates. I don't have pictures ready to be posted right now but soon. They mount by cutting an opening on the side of your airframe, and gluing the fairing on. The camera attaches with 4 small screws into the holder.

Doug
 
I'm fairly new to rocketry, and to this forum... but we've had pretty good luck on low power stuff with the usb keychain cameras (got mine from Apogee). Pretty cheap, fairly lightweight, and passed safety check on my kiddos' rockets at Airfest this past year, so must be somewhat acceptable, generally speaking.
 
I make fairings and mounts for the Sony Action Cameras. They are not as large as the GoPro (although I have mounted those in a rocket) and the set up is very aerodynamic. The fairing is based on the Von Karmon equations and has a very low profile. Its only slightly larger than the Keychain cameras but the Sony's can shoot in 4K or HD at some very high frame rates. I don't have pictures ready to be posted right now but soon. They mount by cutting an opening on the side of your airframe, and gluing the fairing on. The camera attaches with 4 small screws into the holder.

Doug

Which cameras have you used? I am looking at this one as an upgraded alternative to the Mobius:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2KD9VM/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

I have also looked at this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A81SXHI/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20
 
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Which cameras have you used? I am looking at this one as an upgraded alternative to the Mobius:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2KD9VM/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

They were designed for the HDR-100 and 200 and likely the X1000V since they are all very close to the same size. They likely would also work with the older models AS10, AS15, etc but those do not have the built in screw mount on the bottom. I just got a AZ1 and it would likely work with some modifications but it likely wouldn't be too bad. Perhaps just a spacer under the camera will work since the biggest (physical) difference is the height. I'll post more information on the Forum closer to release but I'd be happy to answer any questions that I can.

Doug
 
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Möbius camera is one of a few that are pretty popular these days. Some people simply wrap it on to the airframe with electrical tape. There's a guy on this forum who makes 3-D printed shrouds which are attached to the airframe with a few screws and I've seen other people mount a camera in the AV bay.

This is a shroud made by Landru on a 4" airframe https://additive-aerospace.myshopify.com/

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Here is a video of same camera/rocket

[video]https://youtu.be/HALw48suJuw[/video]

I wish more people would take the time to edit their videos like you did. Nice job.
 
I used the 808 #16 with the shroud from here: https://additive-aerospace.myshopify.com/collections/video-camera-shrouds and the 808 #18 with Electrical tape. It is pretty awesome getting the footage. The tape held really well on a Big Daddy. Haven't actually launched my L1 attempt yet with the shroud and #16 keychain cam.
After loosing 2 #808 cameras due to electrical tape, I now use a shroud only. Tape will soften and loosen up while sitting on the pad in the hot sun.
 
After loosing 2 #808 cameras due to electrical tape, I now use a shroud only. Tape will soften and loosen up while sitting on the pad in the hot sun.

Makes sense; but I found my #18 didn't fit either of the shrouds that were sold on the site. Definitely open to other sites/suggestions for mounting the #18. Bought it before I had found TRF as I knew I wanted to video tape and had found some place mentioning them on YouTube for this purpose.
 
I have been flying and selling the 808 cameras for years. I have amassed a nice collection of inflight video and have only destroyed one camera along the way. Parachute deployment failed and the camera hit a piece of pavement. I have sent them to over 20,000' and Mach 1.5 using my tape on method. First i wrap the tube with painters masking tape to protect the paint. Then I tape the camera using the painter's tape. Wrapping all the way up the keychain part and camera. Then a layer of duct tape making sure to only duct tape the area covered by painters tape. Never just use duct tape. It will leave behind a stick mess all over your camera and rocket.

Here is a video with one of my HD #16 cameras going to 19,000' and Mach 1.2 using this tape on method.

[YOUTUBE]M_4OmuIOL_E[/YOUTUBE]
 
The other thing about cameras is if one mounts it on the upper bay so it catches the apogee separation, it will give one an idea of what happened if a failure occurs. I had a failure in an old cardboard rocket I thought simply the apogee shockcord broke
and the two rocket portions did the "death dive" and that was it. The onboard video showed the apogee charge blew the side out of the cardboard sustainer and didn't separate the two portions. The rocket did the "death dive" routine and when the main charge blew, the main shockcord zippered up the upper bay completely and the zippered tube fell free off the ebay. The wrenching force pulled the ebay free from the sustainer, the apogee shockcord then zippered and broke.

The camera was on the upper tube that "fluttered" down. Frame-by-frame analysis revealed the events. After the main charge blew, the camera caught frames of the sustainer falling away with the now broken apogee shockcord wrapped around the tube.

The ebay came down on the 6' main chute and heck the only thing one could see at altitude was the open parachute. One would have figured the chute would have fluttered down but the ebay was hanging underneath and was hard to see.
It provided enough weight so the chute stayed open. Was the gentlest landing that ebay will ever see.

The camera came "fluttering" down on the zippered tube and survived fine. The fincan was long enough and the fins survived. I'm able to remove the damaged portion, apply a coupler and the fincan will fly again! Second rebuild.

Link is here if one wants to watch: https://youtu.be/hMvT9BKzbUg

Soooooo, if one flies a well-positioned camera can have a resource to figure out what happened on a less than nominal flight. What I initially thought was an apogee cord failure in an old rocket was more complex (and cooler!) then that.

Kurt
 
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Very cool guys - I'll check into those. That was my concern, how to make it streamlined enough. It looks like a lot of people just tape a keychain camera to the body. Seems to me that would be incredibly unstable, but it seems to work. I guess you just need a powerful enough engine. I'd love a solution that allowed me to attach to multiple rockets with ease, without possibly damaging the paint/finish. I suppose one could get a shroud for several rockets, but I wouldn't want to limit what rocket I use and have to permanently affix said shroud. Or maybe I should just build a dedicated rocket just for video flights? I think I will experiment with gaffers tape. Has anyone done anything really unique with theirs? Those video are very cool, bayourat!
 
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Very cool guys - I'll check into those. That was my concern, how to make it streamlined enough. It looks like a lot of people just tape a keychain camera to the body. Seems to me that would be incredibly unstable, but it seems to work. I guess you just need a powerful enough engine.

These cameras are pretty light- I've flown Estes rockets on B and C motors with a camera attached to it with electrical tape. You have to be careful about the delay times, but it seems to work.

Here is an example of one of mine on a B6-4:
[video=youtube;s2X8vDsrs2M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2X8vDsrs2M[/video]
 
These cameras are pretty light- I've flown Estes rockets on B and C motors with a camera attached to it with electrical tape. You have to be careful about the delay times, but it seems to work.

Here is an example of one of mine on a B6-4:
[video=youtube;s2X8vDsrs2M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2X8vDsrs2M[/video]


Have you tried gaffers tape? That isn't supposed to leave any residue, seems like the best tape to use if you're going that way.
 
These cameras are pretty light- I've flown Estes rockets on B and C motors with a camera attached to it with electrical tape. You have to be careful about the delay times, but it seems to work.

Here is an example of one of mine on a B6-4:
[video=youtube;s2X8vDsrs2M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2X8vDsrs2M[/video]

Nice. I like your "local" launch site (city park, maybe?) and the cheering sounds. Good fun!
 
Nice. I like your "local" launch site (city park, maybe?) and the cheering sounds. Good fun!

Local middle school. Some teachers were walking out of the building when I launched, and apparently liked the rocket :)

FYI- as far as tape goes- I use electrical tape as it's already in my range box- I need it for wiring up ejection charges on my DD setup.
 
HISPEEDHD_zoom.jpgA simple suggestion for the 808 keychain camcorder. I put a 2-56 screw through the hole where the keychain would normally attach, and secure it in back with a nut. When I secure the camera to the rocket with narrow electrical tape, the top edge of the tape is abutting the bottom of the screw. No way the camera will come loose with this configuration.

But all of my HPR rockets are configured to accept the Aiptek Hi Speed HD camcorder, as pictured above. 60 fps and crystal clear. Here's a link to my 36+ Youtube POV videos:

https://www.youtube.com/user/jmomenee/videos

The most recent video is using the 808 keychain camera with an upgraded Estes Top Shot rocket.

Mike Momenee
TRA #12430 L3
 
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[video=youtube;SO6ylhJma9U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO6ylhJma9U[/video]
 
GoPro and Quackstronaut bay.

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I used my Möbius for the first time today. No shroud yet, but I did order one over the weekend from Additive Aerospace. I'm impressed with the video quality of this camera. This one has the C2 wide angle lens. This is my Estes Leviathan on a G76-7G.
https://youtu.be/y-pe7bRZ9LY
 
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