Charlie- any ETA on the 29/40-120 red load?
To be honest with you, NAR Standard and Testing is holding up all hobby motor testing. I will post the details later on for those of you who have been waiting for new hobby motors.
Charlie- any ETA on the 29/40-120 red load?
This may be a back burner project but is there any word on new Quest motors (something similar to Klima)? I seem to recall a hint on The Rocketry Show but all has been quiet since then
One thing this thread has taught me is patience. I love having this back channel to a leader in our little hobby. As far as new products go, I'll get excited when they show up for sale at my favorite motor vendor (or anywhere).
...Wait, is this even true with DMS motors? Obviously with RMS motors, there are a lot more not-okay places for grains to go. But with a DMS motor...you pour it in the hole or out of the hole, it's not like it could slip past an O-ring or something....
Or not. I could be wrong. This is literally the first DMS motor I've ever used, so please correct me if I am wrong.
Weren't we suppose to hearing about the new 24/60 loads around now? Or is that after a later event? I thought it was going to be demo'd at NSL.
The 24/60 loads were on display along with the Economax F67 motors at the NSL.
The NAR S&T had not certified the motors yet so they could not be flown.
Can anyone shed some light on what the deal is with the 29/40-120 cases? Are they that popular where they aren't ever in stock anymore or did I miss something in the last 9 years about them?
This is correct. Tripoli allows for manufacturer's demo as well as EX which allows us to display them before they are certified. NAR launches do not offer the same so because they were not certified we couldn't fly them. Quite unfortunate as we were counting on them being certified in time for NSL.
is submitting them to Tripoli an option?
Such motors could not be used in NAR competition.
Don't want to loose any possible sales.
Confused by this- I thought certified is certified, and Tripoli certification is ok?
So can NAR get their $@!# together and test them already?
The physical testing of engines is only part of the process. There are government hoops to jump through before the motors can be legally shipped for any purpose. For competition, the motors need to be generally available before they're certified for that use. There's a lot more to motor certification and test firing motor samples.
It sounds like none of that is what's slowing things down.
Klima motors are made in Europe and are prohibitively expensive to ship to the US. The availability of Klima motors has nothing to do with NAR S&T taking so long.Oh? Where can you readily purchase the Klima motors?
Klima motors are made in Europe and are prohibitively expensive to ship to the US. The availability of Klima motors has nothing to do with NAR S&T taking so long.
I know why Klima motors aren't available in the US, I also know from Aerotech the delays are not on their end. I never stated I knew why the motors were taking this long to cert.You sound like you KNOW why it's taking so long. Care to share?
You sound like you KNOW why it's taking so long. Care to share?
I know why Klima motors aren't available in the US, I also know from Aerotech the delays are not on their end. I never stated I knew why the motors were taking this long to cert.
That makes sense now, I was wondering where Klima came from. The widespread availability of the motors is a requirement for competition certification, so they have to have NAR cert first, and then they can get the competition cert when they are easily available to all competition flyers.Sorry to have confused the Klima motors with the reloads in question.
One should always take pictures of parts/damage for inspection. You can tell a lot from them,& more often than not determine failure.
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