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Howdy TRF members,

I have a question regarding Aeropoxy. This is not the first time it happens to me and I noticed it happens in the winter only, but what is the cause of the epoxy becoming so thick that it becomes tough to laminate? It even becomes so thick that it sticks like melted candy stuck to a table.

I always mix in batches of 100:25 so the mix ratio is correct. Just off the top of my head I am assuming if it could be the cold weather?

Your advice is appreciated


Alexander Solis

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I've had issues with 6209 after freezing. I stuck my bottle of hardener in a sink of very hot water until it de-crystallized and got running again. Been working great since. Cold didn't seem to bother the resin.
 
I've had issues with 6209 after freezing. I stuck my bottle of hardener in a sink of very hot water until it de-crystallized and got running again. Been working great since. Cold didn't seem to bother the resin.

The hardener was probably too cold. Next time I'll put it in warm water to heat it up before I mix with the resin.

Despite the thickening of the resin, will the cured properties be affected?


Alexander Solis

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That, I'd probably email the manufacturer on. In my very unscientific "break the Popsicle stick" testing after each batch, it seems to do well.

The cold crystallizes the hardener. mine was thick even in the summer when it was 85 out. Heating it back up is a one-time thing you need to do.... then just store it room temp.
 
Which Aeropoxy product and what is the room temperature?


Mark Koelsch
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As a matter of general principle, during the winter months I move the epoxy from the workbench to the house and take it out the unheated shop when I'm building.

I believe there are temperature advisories for most epoxies.
 
There are minimum cure temps. Below that they won't fully cure, but as I understand it you can heat the part that's tacky and it should help finish the cure.
 
Which Aeropoxy product and what is the room temperature?


Mark Koelsch
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It is Aeropoxy PR2032/PH3663 mix ratio is 100:25. The temperature was at about just guessing here 65 degrees.


Alexander Solis

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That, I'd probably email the manufacturer on. In my very unscientific "break the Popsicle stick" testing after each batch, it seems to do well.

The cold crystallizes the hardener. mine was thick even in the summer when it was 85 out. Heating it back up is a one-time thing you need to do.... then just store it room temp.

I've contacted them before and believe me. They had no damn clue as to why it did that.

I'll be sure to warm up the hardener before using it again.

Thank you DizWolf


Alexander Solis

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It is Aeropoxy PR2032/PH3663 mix ratio is 100:25. The temperature was at about just guessing here 65 degrees.


Alexander Solis

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65 is probably a little low in my experience. Probably better off 5-10 degrees warmer. Not saying that it is cause. I have also seen problems caused by incomplete mix of resin and hardener. Also, I though it was 100:27 resin to hardener weight wise.



Mark Koelsch
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65 is probably a little low in my experience. Probably better off 5-10 degrees warmer. Not saying that it is cause. I have also seen problems caused by incomplete mix of resin and hardener. Also, I though it was 100:27 resin to hardener weight wise.



Mark Koelsch
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It is hardener 3663, which requires a mix ratio of 100:25.


Alexander Solis

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65 degrees isn't a particularly low temperature.

Most epoxies cite 72 degrees as the "normal" working temperature.

Have worked in 60 degrees before when it was hot as nuts here. Never really had an issue at those temperatures. I would imagine the epoxy gets just a tad thick, but not as thick as I have experienced.


Alexander Solis

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