Red Glare 8 (MDRA)

[THier]

It was announced that RG8 will be April ,16, 17, and 18th at Higgs Farm,

Tom

[ben_ullman]

It was announced that RG8 will be April 15,16, and 17th at Higgs Farm,

Tom

16th 17th and 18th**

Ill be about 90min south in MD for a fireworks show the 17th. MIGHT be able to make it on Sunday for a while. We shall see.

Ben

[THier]

DAMN, thanks Ben

[ben_ullman]

DAMN, thanks Ben

I can't even retire for one month around here!! SHEESH!! :D

Ben

[MaxQ]

I can't even retire for one month around here!! SHEESH!! :D

Ben

"Retire" for one month....(?)

Never thought you left....actually.

[GaryT]

88 Days and it cant come soon enough!:headbang:

[Mike Di Venti]

Someone's going through the DT's!!

I had my winter fix for now.

ESL 140 was good. Nice weather for Jan. A little breeze but I'll take the 45deg. over the 25deg. any day.
Great turn out for the launch too.

The Feb. launch maybe in the mix.

[skycopp]

Less than 3 months away and I've got the fingers crossed for good weather.

Besides my Buttercup (http://www.davdi.com/buttercup.php), I've got 2 other projects in the works and will hopefully have their maiden flights at RG8.

The first is Black 5, the half scale. Actually it will be a .478 scale, but close enough. It will be 6' 9" tall with 5.5" diameter replica of my ill-fated fullscale that showered the earth with smoking chunks at LDRS. Progress will be detailed here: http://www.davdi.com/Black5_Half_Scale.html

My second and even more ambitious project is Scarto. Ken Allen just shipped the parts (just got off the phone with him) and will hopefully get started next week. It will be a 7.5 diameter ~15 foot tall rocket with a unique fin design. Hopefully it will fly straight. Depending on the final weight, the motor will be full M or a baby N. Progress for this will be detailed here: http://www.davdi.com/Scarto.html
http://www.davdi.com/images/scarto.png

So what are you bringing???

[Pantherjon]

Pretty cool design there David! :cool:

[MaxQ]

Less than 3 months away and I've got the fingers crossed for good weather.

So what are you bringing???

Some sage advice about using motors made by Ben......

[ben_ullman]

Some sage advice about using motors made by Ben......

I already asked if he wanted to use the Black five case that is cut down to a 4 grain :roll:

Kind of a "good luck" charm

Ben

[THier]

Sleep-inn is full already?

[MaxQ]

Sleep-inn is full already?

You gotta be kidding.....

[Diosces]

Awesome timing on date. Looks like all three days for us!
Time to finish up L3 scratch project, Cerberus, for Red Glare.


Sleep-inn is full already?

Thats what it looks like using the web site reservation. I'd call them to see if they have rooms on hold for the event..

Per the twins instructions we've booked Holiday Inn Express on Kent Narrows so they can use the indoor pool.

[GaryT]

Pre Registration Now Open:
CLICK HERE TO REGISTER (http://www.mdrocketry.org/launches/redglare8/Registration.html)

[skycopp]

Pretty cool design there David! :cool:

Thanks Pantherjon.



Time to finish up L3 scratch project, Cerberus, for Red Glare.


Looks awesome... can't wait to see it blast off.

PS everybody... party time tonight at the ol' Skycopp household.... My missus took the oath today and is officially an American!

[Crazyrocket]

Congrats skycopp!

[ben_ullman]

PS everybody... party time tonight at the ol' Skycopp household.... My missus took the oath today and is officially an American!

congrats! Vinnie's next right? :D

Ben

[skycopp]

Congrats skycopp!

Thanks!


congrats! Vinnie's next right? :D

Ben

Hahahah, that would be great. I miss the kid.

[Diosces]

Thanks Pantherjon.



Looks awesome... can't wait to see it blast off.

PS everybody... party time tonight at the ol' Skycopp household.... My missus took the oath today and is officially an American!

Congratz Dave!

[WillMarchant]

PS everybody... party time tonight at the ol' Skycopp household.... My missus took the oath today and is officially an American!

Please pass along our congratulations! :cheers:

Did you tell her that a requirement of citizenship is to build rockets? :roll:

[skycopp]

Please pass along our congratulations! :cheers:
Thanks Will & John.



Did you tell her that a requirement of citizenship is to build rockets? :roll:

... she wouldn't fall for it. Yesterday at the ceremony, I asked the officiator if $5000 was the going rate for fake marriages and if now was the time that she should be paying me.

The missus was not amused. :bangpan:

[rstaff3]

Congrats David! Pass it along with the kit you bought her :) Or does she want to fly twigs like her other half? :D

[skycopp]

Congrats David! Pass it along with the kit you bought her :) Or does she want to fly twigs like her other half? :D

Hahahah, stop picking on my tree. That was a real tree that neighbors had donated to the cause.

[ben_ullman]

Hahahah, that would be great. I miss the kid.

I do too! I couldn't even image the projects me and him would have it we were working together. Double standard might just see a Q and 4 P's all sparky :bangpan: :roll:

Ben

[skycopp]

I do too! I couldn't even image the projects me and him would have it we were working together. Double standard might just see a Q and 4 P's all sparky :bangpan: :roll:

Ben

I know it would be. With Vinny, no telling what kind of projects he'll get into.

[cobra1336]

Sleep-inn is full already?

I just reserved a room at the Sleep inn. They were holding 21 rooms for Red Glare 8 people. There are only a few left. Get them while you can. The reason they are full is because they have a wedding party staying that weekend as well. $87.95 a night.

[MaxQ]

Sleep-inn is full already?

I just reserved a room at the Sleep inn. They were holding 21 rooms for Red Glare 8 people. There are only a few left. Get them while you can. The reason they are full is because they have a wedding party staying that weekend as well. $87.95 a night.

Yep...I just made a reservation and they are going fast.
Of course with Ben retired that makes one extra room available.

There may be some cancelations by those wedding parties...but why take chance...
Of course, the weather is always a chance too.

OK....give me the ole MDRA weather chant:
"The weather will be there, and so will we....."

[ben_ullman]

Yep...I just made a reservation and they are going fast.
Of course with Ben retired that makes one extra room available.

There may be some cancelations by those wedding parties...but why take chance...
Of course, the weather is always a chance too.

OK....give me the ole MDRA weather chant:
"The weather will be there, and so will we....."

LMAO, you and wedding parties in hotels just don't go good together lol. :roll:

my dad and I are going to a fireworks show on Sat. and might be able to make Sun.

Ben

[MaxQ]

LMAO, you and wedding parties in hotels just don't go good together lol. :roll:

my dad and I are going to a fireworks show on Sat. and might be able to make Sun.

Ben

Hey...maybe I'll get another free altimeter out of it.

[skycopp]

Arrgg... due to the snow I had a few days off to work on rockets (when not shoveling snow) and I made some headway on Scarto (http://www.davdi.com/Scarto.html). After some intense measuring and aligning, I got it just right and epoxied the first fin in place. Not much epoxy, just enough to hold it until I can get the other fins in the right place. Well, had some friends over tonight and one of the kids knocked it over knocked the fin right off. :bangpan:

Now I have to start all over.

How is everyone else doing on their projects?

[GaryT]

I'm just waiting for Dave to update the featured Projects page??

[Warthog]

Hope the snow is gone by April.......GRRRRRR!!!!

[foose4string]

Hope the snow is gone by April.......GRRRRRR!!!!


Snow might be gone by then, but I envision those fields being a sloppy mess for a while!

[Tetrahedron]

So what are you bringing???[/QUOTE]

Gentleman Jack. :cheers:

THX, John

[MaxQ]

So what are you bringing???

Gentleman Jack. :cheers:

THX, John[/QUOTE]

Some sage advice about using motors made by Ben......

[THier]

Stealth 54 rebuild progressing,,, after the small fire last week, working on the Stealth 76 too.

Tom

[ben_ullman]

Stealth 54 rebuild progressing,,, after the small fire last week, working on the Stealth 76 too.

Tom

what the heck did you do? you had the Kn WAAAY to low

Ben

[THier]

Umm yea, was 260ish, gonna retry at closer to 400.

[ben_ullman]

Umm yea, was 260ish, gonna retry at closer to 400.

400? thats one heck of a jump! My sparkies (only made about 3-4, about to change that) runs fine at 250-275. Mind Pming me the formula? interested in the difference.

Ben

[ben_ullman]

Is there camping allowed on site ?

Im pretty sure there is. check the website and there should be some details.

Ben

[skycopp]

Is there camping allowed on site ?

Actually, I do not believe that there is camping at the actual field, but there are camp sites relatively close.

http://www.mdrocketry.org/launches/redglare8/Hotels.html

[THier]

Less than 3 months away and I've got the fingers crossed for good weather.

Besides my Buttercup (http://www.davdi.com/buttercup.php), I've got 2 other projects in the works and will hopefully have their maiden flights at RG8.

The first is Black 5, the half scale. Actually it will be a .478 scale, but close enough. It will be 6' 9" tall with 5.5" diameter replica of my ill-fated fullscale that showered the earth with smoking chunks at LDRS. Progress will be detailed here: http://www.davdi.com/Black5_Half_Scale.html

My second and even more ambitious project is Scarto. Ken Allen just shipped the parts (just got off the phone with him) and will hopefully get started next week. It will be a 7.5 diameter ~15 foot tall rocket with a unique fin design. Hopefully it will fly straight. Depending on the final weight, the motor will be full M or a baby N. Progress for this will be detailed here: http://www.davdi.com/Scarto.html
http://www.davdi.com/images/scarto.png

So what are you bringing???

Should have;
90% Harpoon,
50% Smoke,
25% Smoke,
4" Amraam,
54mm Stealth,
76mm Stealth,
Gee-Hod,
Atomic Gee-hod, 2.2x upsized, 4" AF,
assorted Estes for the girls.

I guess I will need the big trailer.

Tom

[skycopp]

Should have;
90% Harpoon,
50% Smoke,
25% Smoke,
4" Amraam,
54mm Stealth,
76mm Stealth,
Gee-Hod,
Atomic Gee-hod, 2.2x upsized, 4" AF,
assorted Estes for the girls.

I guess I will need the big trailer.

Tom

Knowing your history, bring some water buckets. :roll:

[ben_ullman]

Knowing your history, bring some water buckets. :roll:

:roll: :roll:

So knowing my history I should bring blast shields?

Ben

[skycopp]

:roll: :roll:

So knowing my history I should bring blast shields?

Ben

or thicker motor cases. You seem to bust them all. :eek:

[skycopp]

Just a note, with less than 2 weeks ago we still have a lot of spots open for RSO and pad managing. Any help that you can give to help make this a great launch will be appreciated. As with any launch, and Red Glare 8 is no exception, it is the volunteers that make it happen.

Sign up here.
http://www.mdra-archive.org/apps/wpisa.dll/MDRA/Signup/Launches/

[THier]

Knowing your history, bring some water buckets. :roll:

Oh sure,, one teeny tiny,,:roll: fire and I get labeled as some sort of pyro,, not that I am complaining,, I have been called worse.:neener:

Tom

[H_Rocket]

So Tom,

What's the story on the Stealthrace?

[THier]

So Tom,

What's the story on the Stealthrace?

Talked to Neil about it,,, dusk friday night. Saturday is out (some banquet or something like that:confused2:) Sunday,, have to break things down,, so Friday at dusk,,,

Tom

[skycopp]

FYI, Only a couple of more days to save money by preregistering. On the 12th, the preregistering will stop at the discounted rate. After that it will be the full rate at the field.

Psssst... the raffle tickets are half off if you preregister. I shouldn't have said that because I bought 10 bucks worth, and now you are probably going to buy 20 bucks worth and win that super hot kit that I should have won.

[kandsrockets]

Does anyone know how to register as a vendor for RG? K and S Rockets will be there. Not sure how much stuff we are bringing so if you are looking for something drop us a line so we can make sure we have it with.

[THarrison]

WANTED: 2 6000ns cases to borrow. Do you have a Loki or AMW 6000 case that you won't be using the weekend of Red Glare? We're trying to get a cluster flight together and are looking to borrow. We don't need full motors, just cases -- we have all the internals. We're running a blue EX load in it that has been very proven and flown 3 times in this exact configuration. Obviously, if something happens, your case will be replaced. PM me if you can help out.

Thanks,
Todd Harrison

[THier]

WANTED: 2 6000ns cases to borrow. Do you have a Loki or AMW 6000 case that you won't be using the weekend of Red Glare? We're trying to get a cluster flight together and are looking to borrow. We don't need full motors, just cases -- we have all the internals. We're running a blue EX load in it that has been very proven and flown 3 times in this exact configuration. Obviously, if something happens, your case will be replaced. PM me if you can help out.

Thanks,
Todd Harrison

Check your PMs.

Tom

[Rocketman248]

I'll be there. I won't have any rockets, but I will have my camera!

[ben_ullman]

Just as a heads up guys, I will have a bunch of stuff for sale up there. Going to be doing some inventory this week on stuff and pricing it. Find my dad and you will find good deals. He will be up there Saturday only.

White 2008 F250, go find him!

Ben

[GaryT]

Just as a heads up guys, I will have a bunch of stuff for sale up there. Going to be doing some inventory this week on stuff and pricing it. Find my dad and you will find good deals. He will be up there Saturday only.

White 2008 F250, go find him!

Ben
Ben, You have a 75/7600 Motor? I know someone who is looking for one. -G-

[ben_ullman]

Ben, You have a 75/7600 Motor? I know someone who is looking for one. -G-

I believe he contacted me already. That got sold a few months ago. I know some people with them (and the person with mind would be able to) if he needs to borrow.

Ben

[rokitflite]

I believe he contacted me already. That got sold a few months ago. I know some people with them (and the person with mind would be able to) if he needs to borrow.

Ben

I will be looking to buy an extra large commemorative "Come Back To Rocketry Ben" t-shirt. I want it signed as well!

[H_Rocket]

On the flea-market front.

I'm looking for about 6" of PML 7.5" Body tube. (actually I just need a section about 8" long) - it's for a repair job and I don't really want to buy a whole 48" piece. Alternatively I would consider buying a 24" long section from someone.

Also - I have a shiny brandy new AT 75-6400 case that I would like to barter for a 5120. So if you are looking to get the 6400 new at the launch and want to save around $30, let me know.

[GaryT]

On the flea-market front.

I'm looking for about 6" of PML 7.5" Body tube. (actually I just need a section about 8" long)

I may have a piece of LOC BT?, I'll have to check when I get home.

[Diosces]

Hmm while we at it.
I'm in the market for a nice 7.51" nosecone for my current project below, needs to fit LOC tubing. New or used in good condition ok.

[ben_ullman]

I will be looking to buy an extra large commemorative "Come Back To Rocketry Ben" t-shirt. I want it signed as well!

I wish scott, got alot going on right now. I was hoping to stay in it but, as you well know, im a teenager and other things (and people) are taking priority.

Send me a PM, I got some chemicals for you I heard you needed.

Ben

[cobra1336]

So what are we hearing about the weekend weather

[seanmca79]

As Neil says the weather will be there as will we. Sunday looks like the best day of the three. On Friday a front is gonna come through and drop the high temps 20* for Saturday. It's gotta get windy at some point in there. That's still more than two days out so I wouldn't put too much faith in it yet.

[rocket1017]

Folks:

I just canceled my room at Gransonville Sleep Inn in case anyone needs one grab it up.
Hope you guys have a great Launch wish I could make it. 410-827-5555 Hotel #

Cheers
John ..

[MaxQ]

Folks:

I just canceled my room at Gransonville Sleep Inn in case anyone needs one grab it up.
Hope you guys have a great Launch wish I could make it. 410-827-5555 Hotel #

Cheers
John ..

So did I...work and family issues.

I had a ground floor room for easy loading - reserved since January...so my loss is someone's gain.
Enjoy the weekend.

[Rocketman248]

I'm going to be there Saturday and Sunday, but I won't be flying anything. If anyone needs a spare set of hands for anything, just let me know. I'll be the guy with the black Mazda and no rockets.

[THier]

I'm going to be there Saturday and Sunday, but I won't be flying anything. If anyone needs a spare set of hands for anything, just let me know. I'll be the guy with the black Mazda and no rockets.

How's your back? Might need help recovering the Harpoon.

Tom

[ben_ullman]

How's your back? Might need help recovering the Harpoon.

Tom

Tom, Ill give you a hand, going to be there Saturday. Look me up.

Ben

[Rocketman248]

How's your back? Might need help recovering the Harpoon.

Tom

Sounds good. I'm actually a Harpoon tech in the Navy, so that project is especially interesting to me!

[ben_ullman]

Is anyone who usualy or occasionaly flys at Bayboro NC planning on being there on Saturday ?

I know of 2 people who will be? why? Ive flown there once, whats your questions?

Ben

[Adam Selene]

good launch today, except for a couple of catos. I might upload some pics but i'll probably go to bed, I've been up for 35 hours.


T-shirt sale saturday, any shirt I have with me only $15. Any kids shirt $ 10. adult sizes up to 4X. Come by and save.

[Adam Selene]

come by and say hi! then you'll know at least 1 more person there.

[THier]

Well it was a good day 1,,, well aside from a cato destroying my 76mm Stealth, motor flew up through it,, I guess a really cool flight. Flew my extended little john on a sort of green load,, NC and main ended up n the drainage ditch,, real cool four way Stealth 54 drag race,, three sparkies, (My EX,, Dans Aerotech sparky, Al had a sparky and an additional Blue motor) weather started out great,, got breezy but stayed warm,, clouds opened up once we got to the hotel. Made a decision,, Harpoon is for sale,, need to make room for other upcoming projects, come take a look at lets talk.

Tom

[MaxQ]

Clouds opened up....does that mean it rained or the sky was clear...?

Tom...what's you opinion of the AT sparky....is it like the old "Rocketflite silver streaks", or just a white smokey version of a spitfire?

[Pantherjon]

I am just hoping that someone will post a video of the N10000 drag race post haste! :D

[stickershock23]

I am just hoping that someone will post a video of the N10000 drag race post haste! :D

I am sure their will be plenty of Video.. But i can't be anything like being there and seeing it live... Incredible..

[MaxQ]

So, what is the story on these CATOS....did the motor cases give way, or were there structural (airframe) failures....?

[Adam Selene]

So, what is the story on these CATOS....did the motor cases give way, or were there strucural (airframe) failures....?

YES

[MaxQ]

YES

Was that yes on #1, yes on #2 or yes on both?

I realize #1 (a motor CATO) will cause #2, but #2 won't cause #1.

( I don't consider a structural failure a CATO, but there have been some "misinformed" folks that refer to one that way).

[THier]

Sky's cleared,, but was real windy.

N10,000 was pushed back to Sunday,,, I almost joined in,, but without tracking,, and would have to modify the 50% Nike Smoke,,, decided no.

Catos,, Some spectacular,, I have a sequence of Hawk Mountain (I think) CATO full sequence starting at first sign of abnormality,, to complete failure,, Need to clean it up a bit,, will post this week.

Won't mention B U was involved in a CATOed project.

VERY cool HUGE V2 project,, success,, his smaller,, well VERY COOL CATO.

A late Saturday CATO ended very cool as it returned under chute,, BURNING!!!! :clap:


AT Firestorm,, Cool load,,, but personally like my sparkies with dark smoke, I will post a pic of my "Toothed pyramid of doom " with an EX sparky, and a different of another using zinc to show the difference of three sparky formulas.

Sunday should be cool.

Tom

[ben_ullman]

Won't mention B U was involved in a CATOed project.

Tom

Tom, you got it all wrong. Bob and Neil called me and asked if I would keep the crowd entertained, they never asked for a flight, im just no good at majic :roll:

Ben

P.S. Wasnt my motor :P haha

[Adam Selene]

Tom, you got it all wrong. Bob and Neil called me and asked if I would keep the crowd entertained, they never asked for a flight, im just no good at majic :roll:

Ben

P.S. Wasnt my motor :P haha

You always keep the crowd entertained! I was disappointed that although I expected a great show, It was too fast for me to photograph. I lost track just before the good part.

[ben_ullman]

You always keep the crowd entertained! I was disappointed that although I expected a great show, It was too fast for me to photograph. I lost track just before the good part.

It was pretty wild how it spread the debris out. got up to 1k feet and KABLOOEY. Im not mad though, if I was mad I would like quit rocketry or something stupid like that ;) :neener:

Ben

[Adam Selene]

Lots of spectacular failures so far this weekend. I love watching other peoples stuff go wrong as long as its safe. I can't even afford the big flights when they work right!

[Adam Selene]

It was pretty wild how it spread the debris out. got up to 1k feet and KABLOOEY. Im not mad though, if I was mad I would like quit rocketry or something stupid like that ;) :neener:

Ben

I'll be happy to make the Bens back in rocketry T-shirts!

[MaxQ]

I'll be happy to make the Bens back in rocketry T-shirts!

"Bens back in rocketry"

Would that include a picture of something blowing up?

[MaxQ]

Tom, you got it all wrong. Bob and Neil called me and asked if I would keep the crowd entertained, they never asked for a flight, im just no good at majic :roll:

Ben

P.S. Wasnt my motor :P haha

Details Ben, we want the details.

[ben_ullman]

Details Ben, we want the details.

I want to see the video!

Heller built a 3 grain O4700 he wanted to fly. So he called me at 8:30 last night and asked me to prep it. I got my act together and got it mostly done. Got there around 11:00 today, worked untill 3:30 and got it on the pad. Lit the candle and it was SCREAMING off the pad, 1k feet up or so and it let go. Parts were everywhere. The fins, chutes, nosecone, and electronics were all that was good. He did get the nozzle/carrier and case back but it needs to be cut down.

Ben

[MaxQ]

I want to see the video!

Heller built a 3 grain O4700 he wanted to fly. So he called me at 8:30 last night and asked me to prep it. I got my act together and got it mostly done. Got there around 11:00 today, worked untill 3:30 and got it on the pad. Lit the candle and it was SCREAMING off the pad, 1k feet up or so and it let go. Parts were everywhere. The fins, chutes, nosecone, and electronics were all that was good. He did get the nozzle/carrier and case back but it needs to be cut down.

Ben

I read then that it WAS someone elses motor (not sure whose motor case it was - or whose rocket either).

<"He did get the nozzle/carrier and case back but it needs to be cut down.>"

Well, I'm sure you can advise on that...since you've been there, done that.

[ben_ullman]

I read then that it WAS someone elses motor (not sure whose motor case it was - or whose rocket either.

My rocket, not my motor. It was the Sandhawk. Ill get her rebuilt eventually.

Ben

[ben_ullman]

<"He did get the nozzle/carrier and case back but it needs to be cut down.>"

Well, I'm sure you can advse on that...since you've been there, done that.

Well, I gave mine to Ed Romani that I blew last month. I was actually hoping to keep the O case since he did blow up my rocket, just seems fair. Ill get it cut down to a 2 grain.

Ben

[MaxQ]

My rocket, not my motor. It was the Sandhawk. Ill get her rebuilt eventually.

Ben

Ouch. That hurts.

[MaxQ]

Well, I gave mine to Ed Romani that I blew last month. I was actually hoping to keep the O case since he did blow up my rocket, just seems fair. Ill get it cut down to a 2 grain.

Ben

And where was Skycopp...(he must have had something clever to say like...all in good fun of course....So, how does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot...)

[rokitflite]

"Bens back in rocketry"

Would that include a picture of something blowing up?

A) I laughed so hard I had to dig up my inhaler...

B) I would buy 2.

Ben! You have become a rocketry institution!

[ben_ullman]

A) I laughed so hard I had dig up my inhaler...

B) I would buy 2.

Ben! You have become a rocketry institution!

Well, and I hate to say this, Red Glare rekindled my rocket fire. Im really trying to get rid of crap though. I mean I dont need 10 38-240 cases. Im not going to get out but I need to scale back at this point.

And David missed it by 30min or so. It was pretty fun none the less. Am I happy? no. But if it was easy everyone would do it

Ben

[MaxQ]

Well, and I hate to say this, Red Glare rekindled my rocket fire. Im really trying to get rid of crap though. I mean I dont need 10 38-240 cases. Im not going to get out but I need to scale back at this point.

And David missed it by 30min or so. It was pretty fun none the less. Am I happy? no. But if it was easy everyone would do it

Ben

<"if it was easy everyone would do it>"

This is true.

The other saying is.....Professionals tend to "make it look easy".

[ben_ullman]

<"if it was easy everyone would do it>"

This is true.

The other saying is.....Professionals tend to "make it look easy".

I do make it look quite easy dont I ;)

Im going to try and get the Sandhawk rebuilt and finish that and the booster and my 4" cherokee D. That way I have 2 good sized finished rockets I can throw together and fly if I have sometime. There is one rocket I would like to make but Ill have to see how the money train is this summer.

Ben

[Rocketman248]

I got some pretty good pics of it going up, and one of it going "KABLOOEY."

My camera takes 8 frames a second. It was intact in the 7th frame. It was spread across the sky in the 8th frame. :y:

I've attached the 2nd, 7th, and 8th frames.

[ben_ullman]

AWESOME!
Do you mind If I forward that to some friends?

That blue was kicking ass!

Ben

[Rocketman248]

Go right ahead!

[ben_ullman]

Go right ahead!

Those were beautiful shots. Honestly, its all about the liftoff shot, and that was great. Setting that at desktop!

Ben

[skycopp]

I got some pretty good pics of it going up, and one of it going "KABLOOEY."

My camera takes 8 frames a second. It was intact in the 7th frame. It was spread across the sky in the 8th frame. :y:

I've attached the 2nd, 7th, and 8th frames.

Ouch... thats gonna leave a mark. :jaw:

[ben_ullman]

Ouch... thats gonna leave a mark. :jaw:

been there done that right? :bangpan:

[MaxQ]

Im really trying to get rid of crap though. I mean I dont need 10 38-240 cases.

Ben

Guess those were about some cluster project, with lots of 38's?

Maybe I'll pick some of them up....like outboards for a 4" Nike Hercules - or a big Saturn 1b maybe......: )

[ben_ullman]

Guess those were about some cluster project, with lots of 38's?

Maybe I'll pick some of them up....like outboards for a 4" Nike Hercules - or a big Saturn 1b maybe......: )

I only need 2.

Ill cut you a deal, buy one, and Ill give you the one you bought.

Ben

[MaxQ]

I only need 2.

Ill cut you a deal, buy one, and Ill give you the one you bought.

Ben

That would be Loki stuff...right?
Let's talk .....

[ben_ullman]

That would be Loki stuff...right?
Let's talk .....

most of them are BrandX, but I have flown Loki stuff in them. Still got 2 brand new never touched for $35 ea.

Ben

[MaxQ]

most of them are BrandX, but I have flown Loki stuff in them. Still got 2 brand new never touched for $35 ea.

Ben

PM sent

[THier]

Here is a CATO I caught,

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b0f52762ac00000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b04f1e62c800000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b168db02ca00000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b0fe97a3b100000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b066f422ae00000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b1618b420600000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b0b13b629200000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b0154762bc00000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/ http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b1cee202a000000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

These are straight from the camera,, I need to clean them up,, but this was just one of the "real cool flights" to show you all what you are missing.

Tom

[THier]

Oh have to include my "Toothed pyramid of doom" (My 9yo daughter named it) on an EX J300 sparky.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da39b3127ccef9b05725e3cf00000030O00Ect2TZy3Ysw e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Tom

[THier]

I have it,, see me today,, big silver trailer,, right side,,, you know where the big Harpoon is for sale,, buy the 'poon and I will return your cord. ;)

Tom

[Rocketman248]

Here's yet another cato. This one was insane. It bent the giant rail on the away cell.:eek:

[Brent]

Here's yet another cato. This one was insane. It bent the giant rail on the away cell.:eek:

Is that Burl Finkelstein's cow V2?

[Rocketman248]

Yup. He flew the Big V2 earlier, and it was beautiful. A central O with 2 outboard N's.

[Rocketman248]

On another note, I should be going for my L1 (re)cert today. I bought a Wildman Drago at the launch yesterday, and built it in my hotel room. It sims out at over 2500ft on a 3 grain H. Or I could go all out and fly it to 5,200ft on an I200W. hmmm...choices.

[stantonjtroy]

On another note, I should be going for my L1 (re)cert today. I bought a Wildman Drago at the launch yesterday, and built it in my hotel room. It sims out at over 2500ft on a 3 grain H. Or I could go all out and fly it to 5,200ft on an I200W. hmmm...choices.

Best of luck. Maggie got her L1 Friday. My Friday attempt failed (Recovery Sep) But a frantic midnight build had me on the pad Saturday with a second (and succesfull) attempt. Wasn't sure about the wind but there was no way my wife was going to cert and me not.:y:

[rokitflite]

Best of luck. Maggie got her L1 Friday. My Friday attempt failed (Recovery Sep) But a frantic midnight build had me on the pad Saturday with a second (and succesfull) attempt. Wasn't sure about the wind but there was no way my wife was going to cert and me not.:y:

So... Was Maggie able to talk down to you and give you crap for 24 hours?:D

[stantonjtroy]

So... Was Maggie able to talk down to you and give you crap for 24 hours?:D

"WAS"?!?!? IS my friend. Actually it was the rest of the club BODs that gave me the well deserved, good natured ribbing I so greatly earned :blush: I love these guys. I actually do. How messed up is that? It was all good. Maggie saved the family honor on Friday. I had a great flight Sat in spite of the wind (and the fact that my rocket was neked). Now I just have to get some paint on the Bull Pup. If it wasn't for my failed attempt Friday, we wouldn't have gone back Saturday. Then I'd have missed Bens Spectacular CATO. Tough break Ben, Looked as if you had the makings of an awsome flight. Maggie won one of the raffle prizes Saturday. A single use AT 29mm Redline G. She won a reload case last RG. Think I'll take her to Vegas. Lots of Certs this weekend; L1, L2 and L3. I was impressed by the fact that most everyone was able to adjust quite well to the heave wind conditions. In all a great weekend event.

[THier]

N10,000 drag race was cool,,, three made successful flight,, Mikes, Nike smoke,, not so much,, shredded just before motor burnout,, was a spectacular shred. Tim (wildman) went 12kft. I need to figure out why my computer won't recognize my video camera, can't download video.

Tom

[ben_ullman]

"WAS"?!?!? IS my friend. Actually it was the rest of the club BODs that gave me the well deserved, good natured ribbing I so greatly earned :blush: I love these guys. I actually do. How messed up is that? It was all good. Maggie saved the family honor on Friday. I had a great flight Sat in spite of the wind (and the fact that my rocket was neked). Now I just have to get some paint on the Bull Pup. If it wasn't for my failed attempt Friday, we wouldn't have gone back Saturday. Then I'd have missed Bens Spectacular CATO. Tough break Ben, Looked as if you had the makings of an awsome flight. Maggie won one of the raffle prizes Saturday. A single use AT 29mm Redline G. She won a reload case last RG. Think I'll take her to Vegas. Lots of Certs this weekend; L1, L2 and L3. I was impressed by the fact that most everyone was able to adjust quite well to the heave wind conditions. In all a great weekend event.

Troy I apologive for not finding you on Saturday, I was prepping my @ss off to get this thing up. I have your 29mm Casting tubes still. Congrats on the flight, I heard your name and watched the flight but never found you.

Ben

[Rocketman248]

Best of luck. Maggie got her L1 Friday. My Friday attempt failed (Recovery Sep) But a frantic midnight build had me on the pad Saturday with a second (and succesfull) attempt. Wasn't sure about the wind but there was no way my wife was going to cert and me not.:y:


What did your rocket look like, and what motor? I may have gotten a picture of it.

[Pantherjon]

Yup. He flew the Big V2 earlier, and it was beautiful. A central O with 2 outboard N's.

Good to see the big V-2 fly again!:clap: Nice to see that the outboards stayed together this time!

[Pantherjon]

N10,000 drag race was cool,,, three made successful flight,, Mikes, Nike smoke,, not so much,, shredded just before motor burnout,, was a spectacular shred. Tim (wildman) went 12kft. I need to figure out why my computer won't recognize my video camera, can't download video.

Tom

Well...:p

[gkieley]

Here's a pic of the race (in order off the pad) Crazy Jim, the guy who drove up from GA to MD, Tim and Mike's Nike Smoke moments prior to being shredded.... Amazing

[cjl]

Here's a pic of the race (in order off the pad) Crazy Jim, the guy who drove up from GA to MD, Tim and Mike's Nike Smoke moments prior to being shredded.... Amazing

:y::y::y::y::y::y:

[ben_ullman]

Here's a pic of the race (in order off the pad) Crazy Jim, the guy who drove up from GA to MD, Tim and Mike's Nike Smoke moments prior to being shredded.... Amazing

nice, Jim and Tim always know how to put on a show.

Ben

[stickershock23]

Looks almost like a dead heat off the pad.... Awesome.

[blackjack2564]

Shazaaammmm........ If you blinked you missed it. That fast.


My R-das reported 11458ft.....65G's... 1208ft/sec Mach 1. something....2560lbls of thrust for..... .995 seconds. Straight as an arrow.

All in a 68 lb, 13ft , 6inch, Ultimate Ultimate glass Endeavor. This thing has 14-M flights.....3 -N flights and THIS flight N-10,000 the only time I ever did this and was actually a scared. Between the 4 of us before the race we secretly decided that anyone's rocket that survived was the winner!

Board was epoxied on with 4 stainless golf club shafts and carbon fiber.

One side of board completely pulled off of rods[ ply wood de-lam from accel.]

And 1 centering ring knocked loose and back 2inches from acceleration.

There was no motor roar at ignition, just a shotgun blast from 4 motors.

It wasn't a launch..... it was artillery.

If you got a Pic/Video please post it. John Clifton did blink and actually missed the launch. His was the unpainted Wildman Ultimate built the day before. It wouldn't be a Wildman drag race if at least 1 rocket wasn't built in haste. The bay and retainer were put on minutes before the race.


For the first time ever, after the adrenaline subsided, Cannot think of what to do to top this!:confused2::confused2::confused2:

[Diosces]

The N10,000 drag race was phenomenal, what a show! Burl's V2 was also very special. The successful Loki Q motor test was the icing on the cake

Overall plenty of cool launches for all three days.

Whole family had a great time and we managed to get our own little 5 way drag race launched and successfully recovered.

Always seems to be a wonderful group of helpful people at MDRA launch.

Aurora sends special thanks to Wes for the SS tile 'sample'--very very cool.
Crazy Jim thanks for the help building the Kosdon, hopefully 'll launch it at NERRF 6 in June.

[MaxQ]

Was the Loki Q a static test?...I take it it did not brew up like last fall.

How many rockets were in the N10000 drag race?...hard to tell in the photo.
Looks like someone got a hole shot on the others and some are just sitting there.

[blackjack2564]

First off thanks to the folks at CTI [ Jereon/Anthony] and Wildman[ Tim Lehr] for sponsoring this first of the seasons many "Traveling flying circus roadshow" Drag races and the fine folks at MDRA especially Neil and Bob for putting on such a fine event and allowing us the privilege of flying with them.


There WILL be many more events...all in secret planning for now. WE can't wait to come to your event and promote more rocket chaos and mayhem.

Second the rockets....All that survived were Wildman products. Remember this next time you are thinking about buying and building a L-3 kit. These things can take whatever you throw at them. We just proved it!

Third the igniters.. No not thermite, but just as fast if not faster!.....sorry we can't tell you what they are. If you were there, you know how bada$$ they are. A Wildman drag race exclusive that will NEVER be shared, unless you are in the race.

Fourth, raking the pad area in prep for the race. WE don't want no stink'n fires. Thanks guys.

[blackjack2564]

THe fliers:


John Clifton with his less than 24hr old Ultimate Wildman. He blinked and missed the lift off.

Mike DeVenti who shredded his Nike before it went 25 ft. Tim gave him lifetime membership as a Wildman for his showmanship and "just fly it" attitude. Definitely responsible for MAJOR chaos and mayhem. GOOD show Mikeeee the crowd loved it.

The sponsor and instigator of this one, the Wildman [Tim Lehr]himself and his well abused Ultimate Wildman.

And finally me Crazy Jim with the Wildman glass Ultimate Ultimate Endeavor [THE TIGER TERROR] and first off the pad

[blackjack2564]

All 4 nozzles looked like this after the race. Totally spent, but did their job! Not from the landings.

My rocket taking a rest after a hard days work at the office!

Hope you all enjoyed the show, this one will be hard to beat.

[rocketsaway]

Qtest (http://www.rocketsaway.com/qtest.mpg)

Ill leave it up until a better vid gets posted. The avi looked better.

[kandsrockets]

I would like to say Thank You to a great group of people at MDRA. We had a great time at Red Glare and am looking forward to Red Glare 9. I also like to thank everyone that stopped by and checked out our product. It was nice to put some faces with the people you talk to online.

[daveyfire]

John Clifton did blink and actually missed the launch.

:roll::roll::roll:

11036868
Excellent flights!

[MaxQ]

:roll::roll::roll:

11036868
Excellent flights!

Geeez...That wind looked daunting....(although the N 's weren't bothered by it...)

[THier]

I WILL get the video off my camera somehow today,, hand held video from the "C" rack. we had probably 10-12 folks ready for any fires. Hats off to Tim and whom ever helped to assemble the motors,, they held together,, NO fire what-so-ever. Thanks to everyone who helped to rake and standby in case of fire.

Tom

[THier]

Got the camera to co-operate,, here is the N10,000 drag race,, from the "C" rack,, notice how fast they become dots,, then vanish.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAlRK2_KV1g

[THier]

Friday Stealth drag race http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMQZ-LG09Qs

[THier]

Here's a pic of the race (in order off the pad) Crazy Jim, the guy who drove up from GA to MD, Tim and Mike's Nike Smoke moments prior to being shredded.... Amazing

That is a great pic,, I'm sure all involved would love to have a copy.

[THier]

Was the Loki Q a static test?...I take it it did not brew up like last fall.

How many rockets were in the N10000 drag race?...hard to tell in the photo.
Looks like someone got a hole shot on the others and some are just sitting there.

Loki Q static test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftuarPBiEnc

There were four in the race,, the others in the foreground were waiting their turn

Tom

[Pantherjon]

:y: So, there was the N10000 drag race with 4 N10000's, then an 'O' static test AND a 'Q' static test!! Holy *BLEEP*!!:eyepop: Any more and y'all could have tilted North America!:roll:

[Diosces]

Was the Loki Q a static test?...I take it it did not brew up like last fall.

yes was a static test. It fared much better than the previous at RG 7.
Was either a Q or R, whatever the heck it was you could feel it in your chest at the flight line.

[daveyfire]

Was either a Q or R, whatever the heck it was you could feel it in your chest at the flight line.

This one was a baby Q. Depending on how well the liner held up, Jeff said they may add even more propellant to make it a fuller (is that a word?) Q. Here's Scott from Loki assembling it for a sense of scale.

[Rocketman248]

Hey David,

The flight you guys made on Sunday was amazing. What were the motors again? There were so many flights it was hard to keep track of everything.

[Rocketman248]

I've put together a photo album of my pics from Saturday and Sunday.

http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/Rocketman248/Red%20Glare%20VIII/

[rocketsaway]

I've put together a photo album of my pics from Saturday and Sunday.

http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/Rocketman248/Red%20Glare%20VIII/

I can see why the V2 took the course it did. Central lit, then 1 outboard, followed by the other(missing pic).
Interesting pics of mid-air catoes.
Especially the horizontal catoe(0038) at pad height, thats wild.

thanks. :clap:

[daveyfire]

The flight you guys made on Sunday was amazing. What were the motors again? There were so many flights it was hard to keep track of everything.

Lol thanks, it was a fun effort to fly Todd Harison (tharrison)'s "Shake Weight" rocket (named for the nose weight system we put inside, I swear). Him and Ryan Sebastian (Ryan S.) did the motors, I was just on igniters, rail buttons, nose weight, and mediation duty. Oh, and we put Darren's name on the flight card since we finished the rocket in his basement the night before, and he had no idea what a Shake Weight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S3C4AC908w) was before we informed him.

The motors were two M2000 and two K800 SuperBlues. They picked up that 85 lb rocket at 11 gees. Not bad.

f0q-AsXD4nQ

Hey, congrats on your re-L1 flight, too! That thing booked, did you find it successfully?

[Rocketman248]

Yup. It was over in the plowed field. I think I'm going to "Wildman" this thing out and dual deploy it. It'll be fun on a 29mm I.

[stantonjtroy]

Troy I apologive for not finding you on Saturday, I was prepping my @ss off to get this thing up. I have your 29mm Casting tubes still. Congrats on the flight, I heard your name and watched the flight but never found you.

Ben

Don't sweat it, we'll hook up at some point. Sorry about the KABOOM. Looked like there was enough of the upper portion to build another booster. Good luck.

[stantonjtroy]

What did your rocket look like, and what motor? I may have gotten a picture of it.

It was a 3" scratch Bull Pup. White primer tube and nose, raw ply fins and translucent glass boat tail. Congrats on your Cert. Seems there were a lot of Cert flights this weekend. Good for all of us.

[stantonjtroy]

Here's the Queen of my skys. Shot this just before Maggie went up for her L1 (just in case;) ). I think she did a great job for her first HP build. She made her Cert flight on an H123 and had a second flight on an H73. Last flight had a minor zipper. Only had to trim about 2" off and she was back in buisiness. She wanted to fly it Saturday but the wind made her nervous. She'll probably get an EXL kit for it to add dual deployment.

[Rocketman248]

It was a 3" scratch Bull Pup. White primer tube and nose, raw ply fins and translucent glass boat tail. Congrats on your Cert. Seems there were a lot of Cert flights this weekend. Good for all of us.

Was this it?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/Rocketman248/Red%20Glare%20VIII/_MG_9927.jpg

[ben_ullman]

Don't sweat it, we'll hook up at some point. Sorry about the KABOOM. Looked like there was enough of the upper portion to build another booster. Good luck.

:roll: That sandhawks gone man. All I have left are chutes/electronics and the fins. Its totalled.

Ben

[MaxQ]

:roll: That sandhawks gone man. All I have left are chutes/electronics and the fins. Its totalled.

Ben

Looked like there was a nose cone (was it a commercial nose cone?) and upper airframe in the photo...where did they end up?

[daveyfire]

Looked like there was a nose cone (was it a commercial nose cone?) and upper airframe in the photo...where did they end up?

Buried in the dirt about 20 feet in front of the SUV I was standing next to. Not cool.

Dudes, O motors are not the place you should be characterizing your propellant's burn rate parameters or physical properties. Blowing up two 6" motors in as many months has got to be expensive, and not exactly something I'd call "fun".

[ben_ullman]

Buried in the dirt about 20 feet in front of the SUV I was standing next to. Not cool.

Dudes, O motors are not the place you should be characterizing your propellant's burn rate parameters or physical properties. Blowing up two 6" motors in as many months has got to be expensive, and not exactly something I'd call "fun".

Hey, I blew mine up due to case failure and thats why I put mine in the ground. The grooves were cut too deep and uneven. Learned my lesson about using a local mahine shop :/

Steve Heller made this O motor. You can talk to him about the propellant. It was rooted to casting tube bonding issues. But it was ALOT of motor for the case too.

Ben

[stantonjtroy]

[QUOTE=Rocketman248;94457]Was this it?

AWSOME! :roll: Thanks!

[GaryT]

As usual one incredible launch put on by MDRA, It just seems to go by sooooooooo fast....:mad:

Some of my flights.
A scratch built rocket I call Hellfire on an M1550R to 9303'
2065921080

My Intimidator 5 on an M2700BD to 11,119'
20660

Polecat 5.5" Nike Smoke on a K695R to 3974'
20695

My scratch built upscale of a BSD Diablo 7.5" on a J570W
20661

Now to start thinking about Red Glare 9!:yes:

[Rocketman248]

Now to start thinking about Red Glare 9!:yes

I'm tentatively planning on doing my L3 at Red Glare 9. I should be able to knock out my L2 re-cert by the end of this month. Then, let the madness begin!:dark:

[Diosces]

As usual one incredible launch put on by MDRA, It just seems to go by sooooooooo fast....:mad:

Some of my flights.
A scratch built rocket I call Hellfire on an M1550R to 9303'
20659

My Intimidator 5 on an M2700BD to 11,119'
20660

My scratch built upscale of a BSD Diablo 7.5" on a J570W
20661

Now to start thinking about Red Glare 9!:yes:

Beautiful rockets and awesme flights Gary..

You've got NERRF 6 coming up in June to hold you over until Fall Red Glare...your club is one of the organizers right?

[GaryT]

Beautiful rockets and awesme flights Gary..

You've got NERRF 6 coming up in June to hold you over until Fall Red Glare...your club is one of the organizers right?



Thanks John, Yes METRA is one one of the clubs putting on NERRF 6.

[THarrison]

My N10,000 drag race photo

http://todd.tdkpropulsion.com/MDRARedGlare2010/IMG_8190.jpg

[GaryT]

My N10,000 drag race photo

http://todd.tdkpropulsion.com/MDRARedGlare2010/IMG_8190.jpg

That shot is just incredible!!!!:y:

[Rocketman248]

Hey Gary, that Hellfire launch was pretty sweet. Gotta love some big Redlines!

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/Rocketman248/Red%20Glare%20VIII/_MG_0309.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/Rocketman248/Red%20Glare%20VIII/_MG_0315.jpg

I think this is your Intimidator.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/Rocketman248/Red%20Glare%20VIII/_MG_1135.jpg

[GaryT]

Nick:
Awesome! shots thanks! much. If you could send me those pics I'd be much obliged :D

Gary T.

[THier]

Ok,,

Since no-one else will bring it up,,,, did anyone take notice of Steve Eves 1B there last weekend?:cool::cool::cool:

Tom

[ben_ullman]

Ok,,

Since no-one else will bring it up,,,, did anyone take notice of Steve Eves 1B there last weekend?:cool::cool::cool:

Tom

what 1B??





















;)

Ben

[rstaff3]

I caught a few photos of it. http://our.rocketryplanet.com/photo/albums/red-glare-8-4172010

He said it will probably/maybe fly along side another 1/10 scale model at a dedicated launch later this year. Should be fun.

[THier]

I caught a few photos of it. http://our.rocketryplanet.com/photo/albums/red-glare-8-4172010

He said it will probably/maybe fly along side another 1/10 scale model at a dedicated launch later this year. Should be fun.

OK Dick,,

That's just scary,,, one of two things happened,, either you stole the CF card from my camera,, or you saw the 1B through my eyes,, your pics are just about,,, if not identical to mine. I assume the one pic was of the fold out fin,,, right?

Tom

[rstaff3]

I'm not sure what you mean by fold out fin as I didn't talk to anyone about the details about his design. He was swamped by fans/inquisitors when I swung by.

If I had stolen anything from ya' it woulda had fins on it ;)

[rocketsaway]

I'm not sure what you mean by fold out fin as I didn't talk to anyone about the details about his design. He was swamped by fans/inquisitors when I swung by.

If I had stolen anything from ya' it woulda had fins on it ;)

Pic 8007. see the blk and white panals (LS of pic) w/the the circles on them. They flip out for the 2nd stage. Actuated by a CO2 valve. Relay computor controlled, software written by Tom's friend. Sure there will be more details provided when finished.

[THier]

Pic 8007. see the blk and white panals (LS of pic) w/the the circles on them. They flip out for the 2nd stage. Actuated by a CO2 valve. Relay computor controlled, software written by Tom's friend. Sure there will be more details provided when finished.

Exactly,,, Steve is going big again,, gyros and micro processors will make sure;

booster has seperated,

fins,, as mentioned by Ed, have deployed and locked,

rocket is still within (x) amount of degrees of verticle

then light the second stage.

This is the sequence as told to my by Steve.

Tom

[rstaff3]

Thanks guys for the description. It now rings a bell that I had heard about the flip out fins. This should be cool.