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InFlight
5th June 2009, 06:40 PM
Finished a few of these last night.

Mach 10 Clone Kit (http://www.inflightrockets.com/index.php?cmd=products&prod_id=31)

Thanks for looking. :D

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tnjeff
5th June 2009, 07:00 PM
Off topic maybe but I received my Nike Smoke kit kit the other day. What a great looking kit! Can't wait to build it. Thanks for a great product at a great price!
Jeff

dcastle
5th June 2009, 07:13 PM
Finished a few of these last night.

Mach 10 Clone Kit (http://www.inflightrockets.com/index.php?cmd=products&prod_id=31)

Thanks for looking. :D

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OK, my order is in...I had one of these when I was a kid and have always wanted to build another...

Fishhead
5th June 2009, 09:50 PM
I've built several clones, but never in kit form. Looking forward to seeing how they compare.

JAL3
6th June 2009, 04:02 AM
Gotta have it.

Does your product liability coverage handle marital counseling?

AKPilot
6th June 2009, 12:07 PM
Seems as if this was a popular one, with them being sold out now. You planning on doing another run?

kandsrockets
6th June 2009, 01:16 PM
Gotta have it.

Does your product liability coverage handle marital counseling?

Marital Counseling is a P motor and a roll of duct tape......:D:y:

InFlight
6th June 2009, 03:37 PM
Seems as if this was a popular one, with them being sold out now. You planning on doing another run?
I knew a few people wanted one but I didn't expect them to sell out in a few hours. :jaw:

Yeah, I am working on another run.

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dappa1012
6th June 2009, 07:11 PM
I got my order in thanks. Can't wait to see it.

Mikus
8th June 2009, 05:06 PM
Finished a few of these last night.

Mach 10 Clone Kit (http://www.inflightrockets.com/index.php?cmd=products&prod_id=31)

Thanks for looking. :D

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Sold out?!?! :confused2:

Dang it I missed it! :mad:

Fishhead
8th June 2009, 10:52 PM
Mine is in my hot little hands as we speak. (So to speak.):rolleyes:

dcastle
8th June 2009, 11:07 PM
Mine is in my hot little hands as we speak. (So to speak.):rolleyes:


Just found out that mine is waiting at home for me....

dappa1012
9th June 2009, 01:12 AM
Mine arrived today.

Thank you

dcastle
9th June 2009, 02:50 PM
Well, I couldn't resist and I actually started (and almost finished) this kit last night rather than letting it age like a fine wine in my build pile...

Excellent quality as always. Parts fit perfectly, everything is well packaged and the instructions are clear and well produced.

Only one suggestion for the next time you put some of these together...some kind of alignment guide is needed on this one. A simple wrap around guide to mark the two reference lines 180 degrees apart would be helpful; the instructions have everything to be lined up by sight but I still needed to get some lines on the body tube to get a proper alignment.

It is also a bit challenging to get the motor tube properly aligned. I think I got it but I'm wondering if there isn't some kind of little trick to make that easier.

Anyway, again, what a great reproduction of a wonderful kit from my youth! I should be finishing up the construction tonight and then working on the finish. One of my teenage son's friends sat with me while I was working on this and he was really enjoying watching this go together, asking about a lot of my other models and (I think) hearing some of my rocket stories.

dpower
9th June 2009, 03:25 PM
Looking forward to the next batch; I've gotta visit this forum more often!

InFlight
9th June 2009, 04:03 PM
Well, I couldn't resist and I actually started (and almost finished) this kit last night rather than letting it age like a fine wine in my build pile...

Excellent quality as always. Parts fit perfectly, everything is well packaged and the instructions are clear and well produced.

Only one suggestion for the next time you put some of these together...some kind of alignment guide is needed on this one. A simple wrap around guide to mark the two reference lines 180 degrees apart would be helpful; the instructions have everything to be lined up by sight but I still needed to get some lines on the body tube to get a proper alignment.

It is also a bit challenging to get the motor tube properly aligned. I think I got it but I'm wondering if there isn't some kind of little trick to make that easier.

Anyway, again, what a great reproduction of a wonderful kit from my youth! I should be finishing up the construction tonight and then working on the finish. One of my teenage son's friends sat with me while I was working on this and he was really enjoying watching this go together, asking about a lot of my other models and (I think) hearing some of my rocket stories.
That's a good suggestion, when I built my first clone I used payloadbay.com's fin wrap guide tool (Get It Here) (http://www.payloadbay.com/index.php?page=Tools&action=FINWRAPS) to create a wrap that did what you just described.

I can add one easily in the next batch. Thanks for the comments!

Got any pics of the build? ;)

bacasino
10th June 2009, 08:40 PM
Whoo Hoo!! Got my order in for the second batch just in time!! Thanks again Ray.

Brett

dcastle
10th June 2009, 10:04 PM
That's a good suggestion, when I built my first clone I used payloadbay.com's fin wrap guide tool (Get It Here) (http://www.payloadbay.com/index.php?page=Tools&action=FINWRAPS) to create a wrap that did what you just described.

I can add one easily in the next batch. Thanks for the comments!

Got any pics of the build? ;)

Construction's done (except for rounding all the edges), so I will try to remember to post something tonight or tomorrow. I also have to go against my instinctive need to seal the wood to get as close to a glass like finish (though not to Tony Vincent standards) as I can on this one..

dappa1012
14th June 2009, 01:58 AM
Hey,

I have started my Mach 10. First I must say "what a nice kit" everything has its own plastic bag, even the decals. I did have to use the fin wrap guide tool suggested earlier in the thread by InFlight, than you. So every thing has gone without a hitch. I have added some pics for everyone to look at. I hope to start painting tomorrow. I will add more pics then. Enjoy

bacasino
14th June 2009, 05:56 AM
Got mine yesterday!! Thought my package had been stolen because the delivery confirmation said it was delivered that morning, But as it turned out, It was delivered to my next door neighbors house and he didn't drop it off to me till that evening. Just want to thank you again Ray for your help. ( I sent him a couple of panic emails ):o

AKPilot
14th June 2009, 02:59 PM
Ray, any idea when the next batch will be ready? Father's day is coming up you know. ;)

mach7
14th June 2009, 03:50 PM
Nice build Dan.

Don't seal the wings!

foose4string
14th June 2009, 04:43 PM
Ray, any idea when the next batch will be ready? Father's day is coming up you know. ;)

Somehow, I managed to miss the first two batches as well.:rolleyes:

Yep, we need more Mach 10 kits...pronto!;):D

JRThro
14th June 2009, 04:49 PM
There must be a glider I can get to fly right. Maybe this could be the one! (If I don't miss the announcements saying they're available again, that is.)

Since I don't think I've ever seen a real Mach 10, this model seems like a downscale of Scott Branche's (rokitflite) scratch R/C upscaled Mach 10 to me!

JAL3
14th June 2009, 06:57 PM
There must be a glider I can get to fly right. Maybe this could be the one!

That has been my hope and sentiment dating back to 1975. An original Mach 10 was in there somewhere and I managed to mess it up. I hope I get this one right.

Boosterdude
14th June 2009, 07:27 PM
Somehow, I managed to miss the first two batches as well.:rolleyes:

Yep, we need more Mach 10 kits...pronto!;):D

Yeah, me too darn it.

dappa1012
15th June 2009, 12:42 AM
Nice build Dan.

Don't seal the wings!

Thanks mach7, I didn't seal'm.

Two lite coats of gray primer just went on. Tomorrow the blue after some lite sanding of course. Will post more pics then.

sandman
15th June 2009, 02:42 AM
There must be a glider I can get to fly right. Maybe this could be the one! (If I don't miss the announcements saying they're available again, that is.)

Since I don't think I've ever seen a real Mach 10, this model seems like a downscale of Scott Branche's (rokitflite) scratch R/C upscaled Mach 10 to me!


As for being easy to fly, I think Scott had a better chance of getting an R/C version to fly. The original model is not easy to trim and a lot of them have powered into the ground before ejection.

I never built one myself but I watched JimZ fly his into the ground 3 times at NARAM 43 before he gave up in disgust.

One of the members of our club has adapted his with elevator control and his flys sweet.

Fishhead
15th June 2009, 04:21 AM
Thoughts on building and flying a Mach 10 from someone who has learned the hard way.
1. Use LOTS of weight in the marker cone. Fill that baby with clay. This helps make the boost "straighter", so to speak.
2. Pre-flight test glides with an expended motor casing can work wonders when it comes to making sure you have built something other than a brick. If you can, throw them off of a high balcony and let them glide down.
3. Soaking the transition in thin CA has always worked for me, (toughens that leading edge for the inevitable hard landings.)
4. C5-3's are a mistake.:eek: (MAN, are they a mistake. :y::jaw:)
5. Buy two, because chances are good that you'll kill one.

Bravo52
15th June 2009, 03:15 PM
As for being easy to fly, I think Scott had a better chance of getting an R/C version to fly. The original model is not easy to trim and a lot of them have powered into the ground before ejection.

I never built one myself but I watched JimZ fly his into the ground 3 times at NARAM 43 before he gave up in disgust.

One of the members of our club has adapted his with elevator control and his flys sweet.

Oh, I don't know.......I saw one of Scott's fly without the R/C and it flew so well that it's actually mine now. He said; "it's in the other field with all the ticks, if you can find it, it's yours.......". Two steps over the poo-line and into the tick field and I was the proud owner of a BT-80 upscale Mach 10 (I gave it back once he promised to give me patterns). At the same time, Jim flew his original scale kit and it flew fine. The key to both was to have it trimmed out prior to sticking it on the rod...........

Take all the time you need to trim it right before the flight.

mach7
15th June 2009, 03:17 PM
Fishhead speaks the truth! But you should not wreck one.

I have cloned 2. I had to build the 2nd one because the first one glided away after years of nice flights!

2 important points for the Mach 10.

1. DON'T seal the wings. just a light coat of paint is all.

2. You have to launch it at a 60 deg angle, with the cockpit pointing up. The instructions show this, but I think this is probably overlooked. The small elevator gives the Mach 10 a nose up force causing an arcing boost. You have to think of it more as a rocket boosted aircraft than a rocket glider.

Also a B4-2 is the motor to use. If properly trimmed it will glide a long way.

dappa1012
15th June 2009, 06:04 PM
Fishhead speaks the truth! But you should not wreck one.

I have cloned 2. I had to build the 2nd one because the first one glided away after years of nice flights!

2 important points for the Mach 10.

1. DON'T seal the wings. just a light coat of paint is all.

2. You have to launch it at a 60 deg angle, with the cockpit pointing up. The instructions show this, but I think this is probably overlooked. The small elevator gives the Mach 10 a nose up force causing an arcing boost. You have to think of it more as a rocket boosted aircraft than a rocket glider.

Also a B4-2 is the motor to use. If properly trimmed it will glide a long way.

Oh no, I have already primed mine! Will this kill my bird? Just two very lite coats gray primer is all I used. I Can sand most off?
Oh well life is one long lesson.

mach7
15th June 2009, 08:25 PM
I don't think it will kill it, just make it heavier.

I don't think I would bother to sand it off, but on your next one...

Get as much mass inside the nose cone as you can.

Do you have any photos? I would love to see yours.

dcastle
15th June 2009, 08:47 PM
How would a bit of aerogloss sanding sealer be for this one? A coat or two, largely sanded off, can't be too heavy?

I'll try to get some pictures posted soon. Right now it's unfinished and looks just like the other one posted already :-)

dappa1012
15th June 2009, 09:42 PM
Ok here are some more photos. Keep in mind No decals yet. I like to wait at least 24 hrs before applying them. I put a very lite coat of paint on. So lite you can see through it in some places. The first two pics are with primer. I also filled around the cockpit with contour putty to blend it in with the body. I figured a little more wait on the nose couldn't hurt. Enjoy the pics.

mach7
16th June 2009, 12:37 AM
How would a bit of aerogloss sanding sealer be for this one? A coat or two, largely sanded off, can't be too heavy?



Hmm, I'm not sure you want a really smooth surface. I'm thinking it might be a boundary layer aeronautical engineering thing. Any aero engineers want to chime in here? I'm thinking the slightly rough surface might act like tiny vortex generators and help with drag. Then again I might just be over thinking the whole thing.

rokitflite
16th June 2009, 12:43 AM
My Bt-80 upscales are primed, painted and fly great... They are smooth, but you can still see the grain. Keep it as light as possible though:)

dappa1012
16th June 2009, 12:53 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure you want a really smooth surface. I'm thinking it might be a boundary layer aeronautical engineering thing. Any aero engineers want to chime in here? I'm thinking the slightly rough surface might act like tiny vortex generators and help with drag. Then again I might just be over thinking the whole thing.

Mine didn't come out smooth at all. Even with the primer and paint it appears rougher then before. The grain just kinda jumped out at me.

Hey Mark By the way I just noticed we are neighbors. I live up in Sanbornville near PPP.

mach7
16th June 2009, 01:29 AM
Hey I guess we are! You should come to a CMASS launch, I would love to see your Mach 10 and maybe have a drag race. next launch the 21st.

InFlight
16th June 2009, 02:22 AM
Mine didn't come out smooth at all. Even with the primer and paint it appears rougher then before. The grain just kinda jumped out at me.

Hey Mark By the way I just noticed we are neighbors. I live up in Sanbornville near PPP.
It looks fine to me. A light finish is what you want with this bird. This is fly and tell... not show and tell :headbang:
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InFlight
16th June 2009, 02:35 AM
I should have 10 more ready in few days...
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Fishhead
16th June 2009, 03:43 AM
Fishhead speaks the truth! But you should not wreck one.

I have cloned 2. I had to build the 2nd one because the first one glided away after years of nice flights!

2 important points for the Mach 10.

1. DON'T seal the wings. just a light coat of paint is all.

2. You have to launch it at a 60 deg angle, with the cockpit pointing up. The instructions show this, but I think this is probably overlooked. The small elevator gives the Mach 10 a nose up force causing an arcing boost. You have to think of it more as a rocket boosted aircraft than a rocket glider.

Also a B4-2 is the motor to use. If properly trimmed it will glide a long way.


True, all very true. This has been my personal Mach 10 timeline:
#1 was built using basswood instead of balsa. Don't try this. :o
#2 was perfect. I flew it to open a QUARK season at VOA and it performed flawlessly in a stiff breeze. B4-2 and B6-2 flights were great. The C5-3 flight, not so much.:eyepop: It looped off the pad and into some heavy weeds, and the whole engine tube shot out the back of the rocket at ejection. I fixed it, and flew it several times over the next couple of months, finally losing it to the school roof on its best ever flight.
#3 was also very good, but a little more difficult to trim. It eventually flew off deep into a deadfall, also saving the best for last.
#4 is still with me today, but has never really performed as well as #2 or #3.
#4a is a built original that I won off Ebay. Not very impressive and retired to stud after only a few token flights.
#5 is the current InFlight bird, which I hope to fly on Saturday.

zog139
16th June 2009, 03:59 AM
[/QUOTE] Don't seal the wings![/QUOTE]

On my clone version, I actually used the "Zicafoose Method" and applied label paper to all of the balsa surfaces to make finishing easy. I have flown mine several times now and actually had to add a little bit of tail weight ( a little clay under the motor mount) and it flys great. The last flight was with a "new" Quest long burn C6-3 and it boosted real nice with lots of smoke as a plus. Heres a picture of her done up in Tamiya Mica Silver.

AKPilot
16th June 2009, 04:02 AM
I should have 10 more ready in few days...
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Dibs, dibs, dibs . . . or point me to that "take a number machine" I always see in the deli.

It's that or I constantly keep on TRF for the next few days.

And what do you define as a "few"? I always thought it meant more than one, but my wife says it's no less than three and no more than five. See, in her opinion, two is a couple, and six or more enters into the half dozen category. Of course she's also trained me to put the toilet seat down and say "yes, dear". :rolleyes:

MarkII
16th June 2009, 04:40 AM
Dibs, dibs, dibs . . .
Me too! Me too! Me too!


... Of course she's also trained me to put the toilet seat down and say "yes, dear". :rolleyes:
In that order? :confused: :eek:

MarkII

dcastle
16th June 2009, 05:14 AM
Hey I guess we are! You should come to a CMASS launch, I would love to see your Mach 10 and maybe have a drag race. next launch the 21st.

Good chance I'll be there as well. Been involved with CMASS on and off since '99; haven't been to a launch for a while and I'm way over due.

dcastle
16th June 2009, 05:21 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure you want a really smooth surface. I'm thinking it might be a boundary layer aeronautical engineering thing. Any aero engineers want to chime in here? I'm thinking the slightly rough surface might act like tiny vortex generators and help with drag. Then again I might just be over thinking the whole thing.

I'm a former AE....if I remember correctly, a rough surface will trigger a turbulent boundary layer rather than a nice smooth laminar flow and there will be more drag as a result. I'm VERY rusty on this though, and I recall that some people in competition models will intentionally trip the boundary layer just past the nose cone to induce turbulent flow, so perhaps I'm not remembering things correctly. I imagine that the reason for leaning towards a minimal finish has more to do with weight considerations more than drag concerns.

Anyhow, as promised, here are a couple shots of my Mach 10, which is awaiting a paint job at the moment...

foose4string
16th June 2009, 12:52 PM
Dibs, dibs, dibs . . . or point me to that "take a number machine" I always see in the deli.

It's that or I constantly keep on TRF for the next few days.

And what do you define as a "few"? I always thought it meant more than one, but my wife says it's no less than three and no more than five. See, in her opinion, two is a couple, and six or more enters into the half dozen category. Of course she's also trained me to put the toilet seat down and say "yes, dear". :rolleyes:

Deli ticket #3 here.

Zog139's Mach 10 flew flawlessly, as did Rokitflite's free flight upscale. They have made me a believer.

BTW, I cannot claim the sticker paper method. This appears to be a technique suggested in some of the early Estes catalogs(or might have been a tech report).

cwbullet
16th June 2009, 12:56 PM
I sure which I had not missed out on ordering one.

InFlight
16th June 2009, 04:18 PM
Dibs, dibs, dibs . . . or point me to that "take a number machine" I always see in the deli.

It's that or I constantly keep on TRF for the next few days.

And what do you define as a "few"? I always thought it meant more than one, but my wife says it's no less than three and no more than five. See, in her opinion, two is a couple, and six or more enters into the half dozen category. Of course she's also trained me to put the toilet seat down and say "yes, dear". :rolleyes:
I'm shooting for Friday. ;)

Real job has been getting in the way.
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mjennings
16th June 2009, 04:30 PM
When you trip a boundary layer you change types of drag and sometimes you get better performance with turbulent flow, i.e. a golf ball is dimpled to trip the flow which keeps the flow more attached and reduces the net overall drag. On this particular model with the Reynolds number it operates at I couldn't say if you would gain anything by tripping the flow or not. A good airfoil and light construction are probably your best bet. Also even on a perfectly smooth flat plate the flow will switch between laminar and turbulent at some point, unless the flow is very slow.

It's been a few years since I've touched this stuff, but that seems right.


I'm a former AE....if I remember correctly, a rough surface will trigger a turbulent boundary layer rather than a nice smooth laminar flow and there will be more drag as a result. I'm VERY rusty on this though, and I recall that some people in competition models will intentionally trip the boundary layer just past the nose cone to induce turbulent flow, so perhaps I'm not remembering things correctly. I imagine that the reason for leaning towards a minimal finish has more to do with weight considerations more than drag concerns.

Anyhow, as promised, here are a couple shots of my Mach 10, which is awaiting a paint job at the moment...

mach7
16th June 2009, 10:57 PM
Hey guys thanks.

I guess I was thinking too much into the issue.

Zog's papered wing has me intrigued. It should be heavier/smoother than the average M10 thus having worse performance, but it seems it does not!

Maybe we should all weigh our mach 10's. And categorize the wing surface roughness. Then we can all launch them on the same engines and angle and see what happens.

It might be fun, the first ever mass launch/data gathering.


Any interest?

Pantherjon
17th June 2009, 05:34 AM
I will join the weigh in:) But will have to pass on the mass launch..MA and GA are a bit far apart!..LOL..Anyways, my Mach 10(just the glider as I have 'misplaced' the tracking cone:rolleyes:) weighs in at 1.6oz..I cloned it a while ago from plans I downloaded..Has flown twice and turned in fairly good glides on B4-2's.

dcastle
17th June 2009, 05:50 AM
Hey guys thanks.

I guess I was thinking too much into the issue.

Zog's papered wing has me intrigued. It should be heavier/smoother than the average M10 thus having worse performance, but it seems it does not!

Maybe we should all weigh our mach 10's. And categorize the wing surface roughness. Then we can all launch them on the same engines and angle and see what happens.

It might be fun, the first ever mass launch/data gathering.


Any interest?


I'm hoping to be at the Sudbury launch...if it's ready I'm game

mach7
17th June 2009, 01:01 PM
Hmm, it seems I was not clear. I did not mean a Mass launch, I meant a mass launch. Kind of like the Golden scout deal. Everyone launch at home and record the data. Then compare here.

But Pantherjon I do have a spare futon! :)

I might have to explain to my wife why a bunch of rocket guys are showing up.

Pantherjon
17th June 2009, 02:35 PM
Hmm, it seems I was not clear. I did not mean a Mass launch, I meant a mass launch. Kind of like the Golden scout deal. Everyone launch at home and record the data. Then compare here.

But Pantherjon I do have a spare futon! :)

I might have to explain to my wife why a bunch of rocket guys are showing up.

Ahhh, I see says the blind man!..LOL..Yeah, I would be game for a mass launch(now that I know it doesn't mean mass=Massachusetts!:roll:)

mach7
17th June 2009, 03:17 PM
Mine comes in at 1.4oz or 38g. Thats no marker pod or motor.

I have a slight airfoil on the unsealed wings and just a coat of silver spray paint. It's CG is about 4 3/4 back from the nose.

dcastle
17th June 2009, 03:29 PM
Hmm, it seems I was not clear. I did not mean a Mass launch, I meant a mass launch. Kind of like the Golden scout deal. Everyone launch at home and record the data. Then compare here.

But Pantherjon I do have a spare futon! :)

I might have to explain to my wife why a bunch of rocket guys are showing up.

Will you be at the CMASS launch Sunday?

mach7
17th June 2009, 03:46 PM
If the weather cooperates I will. I have a bunch of first flights. I'll have my Mach 10 also. I need to pick up some B6-2's.

This is a very easy rocket to clone, but at 18 bucks it's a steal! It would cost close to that to get all the parts needed.

dappa1012
17th June 2009, 10:37 PM
Hey I guess we are! You should come to a CMASS launch, I would love to see your Mach 10 and maybe have a drag race. next launch the 21st.

Thanks for the invite. I am planning on getting to CMASS one of these days not sure when. The 21st won't work for me as it is my daughters birthday and we are having a family get together. I will LYK when I do figure a date to get there though.

JAL3
18th June 2009, 05:50 PM
Mine showed up today.

Yippee!

dpower
19th June 2009, 01:31 AM
Ordered one today, 6 now left in stock. Should be here in time to work on during recovery from upcoming surgery. Thanks for putting together these kits!

JRThro
19th June 2009, 04:12 AM
There were 3 available tonight, only 2 left now.

After dithering over the Nike Smoke or Nike-X kits, I picked up a Nike Smoke too. I think I'll paint it in the Quest Big Rage colors!




(Just kidding.)

Buckaroo
19th June 2009, 04:34 AM
There were 3 available tonight, only 2 left now.

Website still had 3 available at 10:30 central. I took that down 1 as well so there might only be one left...:y:

Boosterdude
19th June 2009, 04:40 AM
One less now!

AKPilot
19th June 2009, 12:26 PM
Finally was able to get mine in. This will be a nice Father's Day gift to myself.

Sacrificed the chocolate covered strawberries this year for it. :eek: That's okay though, I'll make my own using Nestle's chocolate. ;)

foose4string
19th June 2009, 01:30 PM
I think I grabbed the first one. I combined with another kit to absorb some of the shipping. The two other kits I had my eye on were sold out...Sonic Shark and Omega. Grabbed a BBZ instead.

Thanks for getting those Mach 10's restocked so quickly, Ray.:)

Boosterdude
19th June 2009, 01:59 PM
One less now!

AKPilot
19th June 2009, 02:04 PM
Looks like he's out again, eh?

dappa1012
22nd June 2009, 02:04 AM
Here's mine all finished and ready for first flight. If it ever stops raining that is.:rolleyes:

mach7
22nd June 2009, 01:04 PM
Very nice Dan! I've alway painted mine in silver, I might have to build one blue now.

I guess the rain might let up on Friday. I'm thinking of building an Ark.

AKPilot
22nd June 2009, 01:49 PM
Given the opportunity, I'm going for a N. Vietnamese paint scheme.

foose4string
22nd June 2009, 08:49 PM
Two thumbs up for Ray and In-Flight. Received my Mach 10 and BBZ today. Quick shipping and good looking bag(s) o' parts.

AKPilot
22nd June 2009, 11:17 PM
Got mine today as well. Most excellent!!!

MarkII
23rd June 2009, 06:48 PM
Got mine today, too, along with an A-20 Demon. As others have mentioned, the kits are very well packaged and they appear to have high quality parts.

MarkII

Buckaroo
23rd June 2009, 08:47 PM
I also got my box from Inflight yesterday with the Mach 10 and several other (the exact number shall remain a secret... :rolleyes:) kits.

I will also join the list of folks who are impressed overall with the quality of the kits from Inflight. Great components, and high quality decals. I think these may also be the only kits I have ever bought, from any vendor, where I did not feel the need to "add" a longer piece of kevlar/elastic to the shock cord system. Keep up the great work :clap:

dcastle
7th July 2009, 05:06 PM
The other day I was starting to measure out the areas for the red trim on this (I am doing the silver version) and noticed that the cockpit canopy seemed to be very close to the front. I measured and I was definitely right at the 1/4" in the instructions but when I was looking at an old Centuri catalogue last night the picture of the original shows the canopy being much further aft. So, I looked at the Centuri instructions on JimZ's site and they agreed with Inflight's 1/4". A little further research on Ye Olde Rocket Plans shows an earlier version with the canopy positioned at 1" from the nose; this agrees with the catalogue picture.

I also noticed some other changes that Centuri had made to the kit. The reinforcement ring in the front in the earlier version was just a mylar ring rather than a stage coupler and the nose cone appears to just barely poke out of the front of the model. My hunch was that the change with the nose cone was to move the CG forward a bit for vertical flight and the additional reinforcement was probably a good idea too. I wonder why they moved the canopy....any ideas?

InFlight
8th July 2009, 04:33 PM
If anyone was waiting for one of these I got a few more listed.
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JRThro
8th July 2009, 05:10 PM
BTW, my Mach 10 is essentially built. Just needs edges of wings, etc., rounded, before priming/painting/trimming.

I wonder how much weight a covering of Trim Monokote would add, compared to priming and painting. Or how it would affect flightworthiness in general.

dcastle
2nd August 2009, 06:34 AM
I finally got a chance to fly the Mach 10 at the CMASS launch on August 1. I really wasn't too confident in how well balanced it was; I just couldn't get a good hand toss with it. But I went for it (after making sure to get some good pictures) and sent it up on a B4-2. I tilted the launch rod about 20 or 30 degrees from vertical and pointed it away from every one in case of a power prang or other nasty misadventure.

But...to my surprise (based on my childhood experiences with an original Mach 10)...it flew beautifully! The boost was stable and straight, it dumped the nose cone and then went right into a nice turning glide. The glide was very fast, it looked like a fighter plane coming in, but it was a true glide, the model was level and in control. It made about a half circle and landed without a scratch. It was a little scary because it was gliding right back to the launch point but all was well in the end.

I've attached a few pictures ... I used the silver paint scheme (had a terrible time with the red paint crinkling on the rudder) after a couple coats of sanding sealer. I also did a light coat of Future to seal the decals. I'm probably a bit heavy compared to others, which might account for the fast glide. It is an exciting flyer, can't wait to see it with some altitude on a C6-3.

mach7
2nd August 2009, 01:24 PM
Wow Dan, great shots! Congratulations on joining the Mach 10 club!

I wish I could have been there for a drag race.

Was yours the only Mach 10 there?

foose4string
15th September 2009, 06:22 PM
Finished up my In-Flight Mach10 last week. Doesn't look like it's going to need much trim weight. Perhaps a speck in the rear, if anything.

e42
15th September 2009, 10:19 PM
Very nice looking model Craig. :eyepop: Hope it flies well.

--- Ron

JRThro
12th November 2009, 03:36 AM
Last weekend, I painted my Mach 10 red, and today I trimmed it by hand-tossing it. A small ball of the provided clay in the belly tank seemed to be all it needed.

Unfortunately, even though I was tossing it in my front yard, which is mostly covered with grass, the vertical part of the tail managed to almost break off just below the reinforced part below the horizontal section. I glued it back together with some thin CA and it looks just about as good as new.

Now to fly it on Saturday, and see what happens.

NjCo
12th November 2009, 05:07 AM
I'd love to get one of these kits. Let us know when they are back in stock.

Len B
14th November 2009, 09:54 AM
I'd love to get one of these kits. Let us know when they are back in stock.

Me too! Excellent kit. Lot's of great versions here.
Len B